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Message 1793645 - Posted: 5 Jun 2016, 9:45:15 UTC - in response to Message 1793580.  

...the installer works fine...

That's about the only on topic post you've made here today. Would you please take the non-installer issues elsewhere. I'm getting quite tired of coming back to this thread when I see new posts, expecting to get the latest info on the installer, and finding post after post that are totally unrelated. Thank you.



. . Oops. Sorry.
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Message 1793668 - Posted: 5 Jun 2016, 13:46:05 UTC



Coming soon:



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Message 1793677 - Posted: 5 Jun 2016, 14:44:13 UTC - in response to Message 1793615.  

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Wow6432Node

That sounds like a goer. I can ask for something universally present, like

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\CurrentVersion

and if I get an answer, I'm on a 64-bit machine? Silence means 32-bit? I'll give it a try. Thanks.

I've found these keys helpful for determining the OS architecture.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\RESOURCEMAP\Hardware Abstraction Layer\ACPI x64 platform
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\RESOURCEMAP\Hardware Abstraction Layer\ACPI x86 platform
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Message 1793692 - Posted: 5 Jun 2016, 16:09:41 UTC - in response to Message 1793516.  

As the title says. Beta test only, try at your own risk.

I think we should dig out the old "Advanced Users only" tag for this one - I'm not sure whether it will fly or not.

This installer has been updated for NVidia only so far - DO NOT USE IT if you are currently running stock applications for ATI/AMD or intel GPUs.

This is basically the v0.44 installer (64-bit only, to start with), with the following changes....


Beta2 now available, in both 64-bit and 32-bit versions. Pick the right one, or test out my new dialogs...

Now includes new r3430 ATI and intel_gpu versions, with extra app_version entries to correspond with the new stock applications deployed on 19 May.

ReadMes not yet updated: we polish those up last, to take account of feedback received from testers.

Not extensively tested yet: that's your job. I'm going out for a walk.

While you download from https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=8D83BF774A4A86F5!979&authkey=!AK7t-36P9nAec2Y&ithint=folder%2cexe
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Message 1793705 - Posted: 5 Jun 2016, 17:07:57 UTC - in response to Message 1793668.  

Very nicely done!
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Message 1793896 - Posted: 6 Jun 2016, 8:22:47 UTC
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Strong waiting for guppis wus to download, but nothings there !?

Have they been excluded ?

But fastest wu ever for me.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4970345911

Edit:

ok, first guppi is here , lets see...
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Message 1793903 - Posted: 6 Jun 2016, 8:52:05 UTC - in response to Message 1793896.  

I'm sorry, I don't really understand your question. But for me, guppi.VLAR tasks are still being allocated and downloaded - they tend to come in batches, with batches of Arecibo tasks in between.
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Message 1793904 - Posted: 6 Jun 2016, 8:53:24 UTC
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Thanks for the reply, first guppis are here, lets see...
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Message 1793908 - Posted: 6 Jun 2016, 9:44:37 UTC - in response to Message 1793692.  

Beta2 now available, in both 64-bit and 32-bit versions.


Selected and ran 64bit installer.

Win10 64bit, re-selected CPU AVX application, selected NVidia GPU SoG application (was running CUDA50).
Installed, restarted BOINC.
No problems.
Crunching resumed, cache intact.
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Message 1793950 - Posted: 6 Jun 2016, 12:19:55 UTC
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I installed the Beta on my main machine on the 29th.

Now I usually only look at my RAC once a week or less.

Imagine my surprise when I looked today



That is just a quick edited screenshot from Boinc Tasks but the upturn starts on the 29th/30th.

I wasn't expecting shuch a sharp rise.

I have just installed the 32 bit version on my other cruncher, that only has a GTS 450 so be interesting to see how that performs
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Message 1793966 - Posted: 6 Jun 2016, 13:27:30 UTC - in response to Message 1793950.  

Woah! Those are some impressive results. I haven't been following this as closely as I should have, though I have seen that there were discussions of many options settings, and as such I figured that I would hold off till it had a little more time to bake, and would jump on it when it was released. Looking at these results, I think I might take a stab at it, but how much configuring does it need? Or is it fairly automated? I've got a lot of balls in the air right now, and don't want to have to spend a ton of time fiddling with it. What's your experience been with it so far?

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Message 1794142 - Posted: 7 Jun 2016, 0:58:08 UTC - in response to Message 1793950.  

I installed the Beta on my main machine on the 29th.

Now I usually only look at my RAC once a week or less.

Imagine my surprise when I looked today



That is just a quick edited screenshot from Boinc Tasks but the upturn starts on the 29th/30th.

I wasn't expecting shuch a sharp rise.

I have just installed the 32 bit version on my other cruncher, that only has a GTS 450 so be interesting to see how that performs



. . I replied to ask about Boinc Tasks but learned something along the way about how to add images to messages. They must be uploaded to a web location then referenced with a URL. Hmmm .. something else to master.

. . You seem very comfortable with Boinc Tasks so is it alright if I try and pick your brains about it? One thing I do not like about it's graphs is the way they keep using strange values as reference lines, I mean why not use rounded number reference lines like 11000, 11500 etc :)
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Message 1794188 - Posted: 7 Jun 2016, 8:10:46 UTC

Stephen, rather than take this thread off topic, I have sent you a PM.


Looking at these results, I think I might take a stab at it, but how much configuring does it need? Or is it fairly automated?


I just ran the installer, the only thing I changed was to select the S0G option instead of CUDA.

I have to say that today the graph has started a downturn, it is only one day so we will see.

My second machine is still crunching the CUDA backlog.
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Message 1794229 - Posted: 7 Jun 2016, 11:00:32 UTC

Is there an updated list of all cuda-app parameters?
"-poll " for example, is not listed.
Is there an equivalent to "-sbs xxx"?
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Message 1794231 - Posted: 7 Jun 2016, 11:12:44 UTC - in response to Message 1794229.  
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Is there an updated list of all cuda-app parameters?
"-poll " for example, is not listed.
Is there an equivalent to "-sbs xxx"?


No. The 'supported' parameters are given in the readme and sample. The -poll option is a vestigial one that I maintained though never promoted, due to circumstances + tester sentiment when it was made. Most likely since some small amount of people find it useful, it will be exposed in mbcuda.cfg and readmes in due course.
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Message 1794232 - Posted: 7 Jun 2016, 11:16:54 UTC - in response to Message 1794231.  

Thanks,jason-gee.
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Message 1794621 - Posted: 9 Jun 2016, 4:47:05 UTC - in response to Message 1793903.  

. . . Hello Richard,

. . . You haven't mentioned it but is there any chance that SSE4.1 support has been added in 0.45 Beta? I need to deploy it on my system with the GT730 which is Core2 Duo based. It might be helpful if SSE4.1 is available to help things along.

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Message 1794633 - Posted: 9 Jun 2016, 5:24:56 UTC - in response to Message 1794631.  

Re-read ReadMe and set correctly -instances_per_device N param for few tasks per GPU operation.
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Message 1794655 - Posted: 9 Jun 2016, 7:27:06 UTC - in response to Message 1794621.  

. . . Hello Richard,

. . . You haven't mentioned it but is there any chance that SSE4.1 support has been added in 0.45 Beta?

No, it hasn't - no developer has supplied me with any updated CPU applications since the v0.44 launch to support SaH v8.

I need to deploy it on my system with the GT730 which is Core2 Duo based. It might be helpful if SSE4.1 is available to help things along.

Stephen

You don't strictly 'need' it. SIMD hardware support is cumulative - extra capabilities are added to newer CPU designs, but the old ones are never removed. There are one or two gaps where Intel and AMD followed different pathways for a while, but during that phase of development, the incremental steps were relatively small.

Sure, SSSE3 and SSE4.1 would be 'nice to have', but your Core2 Duo will get along pretty well with SSE3 until the developers can catch their breath and regroup.
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Message 1794660 - Posted: 9 Jun 2016, 7:55:50 UTC

I have noticed, that when running 2 instances of sog, it runs both tasks for a while and then one makes no progress any more.It finishes the other and starts a new one which it continues to process. The first one is still making no progress, but the elapsed time keeps going.If i suspend all other tasks, it finally makes progress again and eventually finishes.
I have used -instances_per_per_device 2.
Any suggestions?
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