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Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
My AMD 4200 does not like this installer for CPU task :( Quick search gives for example: https://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/forum_thread.php?id=4534 Looks like your BOINC client betrays you, not the app. |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
Ugh, that one again. Tweeted Eric & Marius a link to the other thread, just because they happened to be on my twitter feeds. "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34379 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
These settings suck on my 980Ti !!!! A little more details please. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
As the title says. Beta test only, try at your own risk. . . First comment, boy does my timing suck. Being a strict believer in Murphy's Law I took the cautious approach. Having just added a new GTX950 to my rig on Saturday I was still in the settling in running stock apps phase, so I let the cache run dry before implementing Lunatics 0.45 Beta. Install went perfectly as usual. D/l'ed about 15 to 20 WUs and began crunching away happily. As soon as I walked away from the machine Seti went down and after a few hours or productive crunching my rig remained in a WU drought for the next 24 hours, hard to evaluate the changes when that happens :( . . Machine is i5-6400 now with a GTX950, I selected AVX for CPU tasks and SoG (I really like the translation of Same Old Grind for that) for the GPU. All seems AOK so far. Oh yes Windows 10 core 64 for OS. . . I was going to add some details of the effects of SoG but I will abide by your directions and find the other thread to post those. . . Stephen . . BTW which thread is Raistmer monitoring?? |
Brent Norman Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 2786 Credit: 685,657,289 RAC: 835 |
These settings suck on my 980Ti !!!! This seems to work well on my 750Ti, but I added -use_sleep |
Chris Oliver Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 72 Credit: 134,288,250 RAC: 15 |
I have had to add -period_iterations_num 250 to get my 980Ti to reduce lag to manageable amounts. These settings suck on my 980Ti !!!! High end cards x8x 780TI Titan / Titan Z -sbs 256 -spike_fft_thresh 4096 -tune 1 64 1 4 -oclfft_tune_gr 256 -oclfft_tune_lr 16 -oclfft_tune_wg 256 -oclfft_tune_ls 512 -oclfft_tune_bn 64 -oclfft_tune_cw 64 (*requires testing) A little more details please.[i] |
Chris Oliver Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 72 Credit: 134,288,250 RAC: 15 |
I have tinkered with this software for the last few weeks and no matter what you do VLAR always introduces lag somwehere unless you disable SETI whilst doing other things on the PC. Put simply the software we are being issued with sucks at handling VLAR WU's. We need VLAR filtered to cpu's or all new software that handles them smoothly. I know folks here will not agree with this, but let me put it out there right now they are plain and simply in denial. |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34379 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
I have tinkered with this software for the last few weeks and no matter what you do VLAR always introduces lag somwehere unless you disable SETI whilst doing other things on the PC. Put simply the software we are being issued with sucks at handling VLAR WU's. We need VLAR filtered to cpu's or all new software that handles them smoothly. Can you please post one link with those values in use. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66339 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Don't use the sleep command with SoG/Lunatics 0.45, at present it causes wu's to slow down and report estimated completion times in the thousands of days, then the status will say 'Waiting to run', while other wu's get worked on, I've had nothing but trouble with this, it doesn't matter if the wu is a guppi or not, I've aborted at least 5 wu's that would just sit there and do nothing. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
Zalster Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 5517 Credit: 528,817,460 RAC: 242 |
Hey Zoom, The -use_sleep so only be used if you are seeing significant lag on your computers because the SoG is utilizing too much of the CPU cores. This of course will also vary depending on your equipment, ie.. speed of processing the data. So a system that is totally devoted to crunching, screen lag and unresponsiveness isn't a problem so -use_sleep isn't necessary. But if the computer is going to be used for other things, then the lagging will be a problem for doing other things on the computer. As such, the -use_sleep decreases the CPU usage and prolongs the time to finish, but frees up the CPU for doing non-seti work. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66339 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Then I think I'd rather not do Guppi wu's on My gpu, I'd rather abort any that I find on My 580 gpu. I think I might go back to Lunatics 0.44. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13854 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
I'd rather abort any that I find on My 580 gpu. Better not to crunch at all than to abort. Grant Darwin NT |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66339 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
I'd rather abort any that I find on My 580 gpu. Well I aborted all the cuda guppi's/vlar's, it's done... So sue Me. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13854 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
I'd rather abort any that I find on My 580 gpu. The only effect of the Guppies on my systems is they take forever to finish & don't pay much credit. So it would be better just to block all those that abort from using the project. They have the option of not using the GPU in their settings. EDIT- Just in case you didn't get around to reading the initial post in this thread, i'll repost the first couple of lines. "As the title says. Beta test only, try at your own risk. I think we should dig out the old Advanced Users only tag for this one" Grant Darwin NT |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66339 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
I'd rather abort any that I find on My 580 gpu. Fine then more people will leave, vlars it was agreed would not be on the gpu again We were told, promised really, sounds like that was an empty(hollow) promise... Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
I'd rather abort any that I find on My 580 gpu. Also, not crunching while the PC is in use is a forgotten option. Interesting fact for another discussion, My Windows, Linux and Mac machines all crunch Guppies just fine while the machine is in general use. For the first two cases those are old Core2duo hosts prone to CPU overcommit. "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13854 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Interesting fact for another discussion, My Windows, Linux and Mac machines all crunch Guppies just fine while the machine is in general use. For the first two cases those are old Core2duo hosts prone to CPU overcommit. Likewise. With 2*GTX750Tis my C2D had no issues crunching Guppies while in general use. It's only when I made it a dedicated cruncher & played with the settings to boost throughput that it became sluggish to input. Grant Darwin NT |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66339 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
I don't suffer from lag here, I have an i7 3820 and the coolest 580(temperature wise) gpu, a PNY LC 580. I'm not a programmer, I'm a hardware guy, but it would be nice if running vlars could be optimized. I'm also going to apologize for what I said when I was having hardware problems, I have severe anxiety problems, the pc hardware I could replace and I've done so, it just required time and money, the severe anxiety problems I can do nothing about. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13854 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Fine then more people will leave, vlars it was agreed would not be on the gpu again We were told, promised really, sounds like that was an empty(hollow) promise... That was MB data & that is still the case. There are still no MB VLARs going to GPUs. Grant Darwin NT |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13854 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
I don't suffer from lag here, I have an i7 3820 and the coolest 580(temperature wise) gpu, a PNY LC 580. If you run the stock application then it will (eventually) select the application that gives the best throughput. If you choose to run something that is only at the Beta stage of release- not yet close to general release- then it's up to you to select the application & then tweak it to give the best results. The information you provide back will allow those developing the applications to make the release version better. Unfortunately the documentation on what each variable is & does & what's best & not best doesn't really exist- this is still a Beta release remember. But there are people around that can help. Grant Darwin NT |
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