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Message 1792036 - Posted: 30 May 2016, 8:47:29 UTC - in response to Message 1791880.  

If Raistmer doesn't supply it to me, I can't distribute it to you.

Okay, seems as if the ball is in Raistmer's court then. But it does seem to me that any files that a production app could reference should be included in the installer, both for the app_info.xml and as a dummy/empty file, whether or not it's widely used. Hasn't that always been the approach in the past?

There is no dummy file for that file as I can recall. That's why it completely for advanced users. And omitted in installer. It should be created by hands when and if needed (only usable for multi-GPU setups of substantially different GPUs. Not needed in all other cases)
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Message 1792037 - Posted: 30 May 2016, 8:48:32 UTC - in response to Message 1791883.  

- no sign of your 'AstroPulse_NV_config.xml' there. If Raistmer doesn't supply it to me, I can't distribute it to you.


What should it contain ?


Does it actually need to contain anything at all? Aren't the other configuration files simply included in the installer as dummy/empty files whose file names are included in the appropriate sections of the app_info.xml? As long as that's done, it's up to individual users to actually populate the file according to the instructions in the README, if they want to make use of it.

That way (empty file) it could be referenced indeed. I hope we tested existing but empty file... worth to check.
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Message 1792041 - Posted: 30 May 2016, 9:10:08 UTC - in response to Message 1792037.  

- no sign of your 'AstroPulse_NV_config.xml' there. If Raistmer doesn't supply it to me, I can't distribute it to you.


What should it contain ?


Does it actually need to contain anything at all? Aren't the other configuration files simply included in the installer as dummy/empty files whose file names are included in the appropriate sections of the app_info.xml? As long as that's done, it's up to individual users to actually populate the file according to the instructions in the README, if they want to make use of it.

That way (empty file) it could be referenced indeed. I hope we tested existing but empty file... worth to check.

For an XML file with a lot of structure, it would be better to supply a 'framework' file with all the structural elements but dummy (inactive) values.

Ah - checked, that is in the package ReadMe, and in the AP_ATI installer v0.45 application-specific ReadMe.
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Message 1792047 - Posted: 30 May 2016, 9:44:26 UTC - in response to Message 1792034.  

Now it's starting to compute...with cpu loading sitting on about 12 % (with one core reserved).

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Message 1792050 - Posted: 30 May 2016, 9:48:35 UTC - in response to Message 1792047.  
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Now it's starting to compute...with cpu loading sitting on about 12 % (with one core reserved).

Marco.

Could you provide link to affected host. Your hosts are hidden.
Also, did your host receive any OpenCL SaH tasks? What situation there (non-SoG) ?
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Message 1792083 - Posted: 30 May 2016, 12:37:20 UTC

Yes, this is link for host with nVidia 610M (Asus A55VD with an Intel Ivy Bridge Core i7)

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6883318
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Message 1792119 - Posted: 30 May 2016, 15:20:18 UTC

Hey Richard, you think that my new multi core beast would be a good candidate for this release? Especially since it doesn't have a GPU in it yet? Or better to hang back and see how things work out? Would there be much tweaking involved with getting it running?

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Message 1792122 - Posted: 30 May 2016, 15:26:15 UTC - in response to Message 1792119.  
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Hey Richard, you think that my new multi core beast would be a good candidate for this release? Especially since it doesn't have a GPU in it yet? Or better to hang back and see how things work out? Would there be much tweaking involved with getting it running?

On the CPU side, there's no change since v0.44 - I don't think anybody is building CPU applications any more.

As we established, 'SoG' stands for, near enough, 'Signals on GPU'. So without a GPU, there's nothing new there for you. But assuming you have AVX on those cores (but you won't, if you stick to Vista), that would have been well worth using.

Edit - sorry, Vista was a different computer, different thread. Win 7 plus SP1 gets you AVX, if the hardware supports it.
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Message 1792126 - Posted: 30 May 2016, 15:35:46 UTC - in response to Message 1792122.  

Ok, thanks, I will hang back for the time being, since it will be CPU only for the next couple weeks, and on this and a couple of my newer machines I'm running Win 7 all SP'ed up (Vista is pretty much for the Farm, as I have a large number of copies I acquired over 5 years ago just after 7 came out and ppl were dumping it like mad, for almost nothing), so am running AVX currently on this one. It's running the 3-4 degrees higher then the SSE3 version I had replaced it with after initially running it for 18 hours. Maybe after the 1080 shows up, we can talk a little more about it.

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Message 1792143 - Posted: 30 May 2016, 16:32:04 UTC

This open beta OpenCL SoG seems to agree with My PNY LC 580, average time is now around 40 mins a wu, even for guppies, I had to switch to a newer driver than 335.23, so since I needed at least 347.xx(can't remember the exact one, sorry, I only saw it once), I installed 353.06 on Win 7 Pro sp1 x64, My RAC has since rebounded, though on the gpu, I'm using far more cpu time, like about 99%, instead of 4-10% as before. I'm doing 4 AVX's on the cpu and 2 SoG's on the gpu.
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Message 1792147 - Posted: 30 May 2016, 16:38:30 UTC - in response to Message 1792036.  

If Raistmer doesn't supply it to me, I can't distribute it to you.

Okay, seems as if the ball is in Raistmer's court then. But it does seem to me that any files that a production app could reference should be included in the installer, both for the app_info.xml and as a dummy/empty file, whether or not it's widely used. Hasn't that always been the approach in the past?

There is no dummy file for that file as I can recall. That's why it completely for advanced users. And omitted in installer. It should be created by hands when and if needed (only usable for multi-GPU setups of substantially different GPUs. Not needed in all other cases)

Isn't that inconsistent with the way each of the other configuration and command line files are initially deployed? The whole setup is getting complicated enough without having to deal with inconsistent methodologies.
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Message 1792149 - Posted: 30 May 2016, 16:41:01 UTC - in response to Message 1792147.  

If Raistmer doesn't supply it to me, I can't distribute it to you.

Okay, seems as if the ball is in Raistmer's court then. But it does seem to me that any files that a production app could reference should be included in the installer, both for the app_info.xml and as a dummy/empty file, whether or not it's widely used. Hasn't that always been the approach in the past?

There is no dummy file for that file as I can recall. That's why it completely for advanced users. And omitted in installer. It should be created by hands when and if needed (only usable for multi-GPU setups of substantially different GPUs. Not needed in all other cases)

Isn't that inconsistent with the way each of the other configuration and command line files are initially deployed? The whole setup is getting complicated enough without having to deal with inconsistent methodologies.

Hear hear.
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Message 1792203 - Posted: 30 May 2016, 18:31:25 UTC - in response to Message 1792083.  
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Yes, this is link for host with nVidia 610M (Asus A55VD with an Intel Ivy Bridge Core i7)

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6883318


 Max compute units:				 1

Oh.... It's hard case. Even harder than GT720 I got little access some time ago to for usability testing.

Lags are acceptable?

EDIT:
For low-performance GPU path use_sleep enabled with 5ms per iteration

Perhaps 5ms per kernel call is too much and effectively disables computing on low-end GPUs.

Try to add -use_sleep_ex 1
Will it improve situation and lower CPU load while allow some progress in processing?
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Message 1792309 - Posted: 30 May 2016, 22:03:11 UTC

Anyone using a GTX750Ti? I would like to see what you are using for the cmdline.txt.


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Message 1792328 - Posted: 30 May 2016, 22:53:17 UTC - in response to Message 1792309.  

I would like to know also for 750Ti, so many different sttengs are being said, but no clue as to what works with what.
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Message 1792334 - Posted: 30 May 2016, 23:08:20 UTC - in response to Message 1792328.  
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Found this in the distribution info:

High end cards x8x 780TI Titan / Titan Z
-sbs 256 -spike_fft_thresh 4096 -tune 1 64 1 4 -oclfft_tune_gr 256 -oclfft_tune_lr 16 -oclfft_tune_wg 256 -oclfft_tune_ls 512 -oclfft_tune_bn 64 -oclfft_tune_cw 64 (*requires testing)


I'm gonna give it a try.
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Message 1792411 - Posted: 31 May 2016, 2:43:02 UTC
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Thanks Richard for the new version I will give it a try soon (bad depression so staying away else I take my depression out on everyone ) but thank you I've downloaded it .
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Message 1792461 - Posted: 1 Jun 2016, 4:44:56 UTC

Just a note, both my computers gave an "Invalid password error" when restarting BOINC after using installer, not sure if it's a new quirk or not.
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Message 1792476 - Posted: 1 Jun 2016, 5:58:00 UTC

My AMD 4200 does not like this installer for CPU task :(

I have tried SSE2 SSE3 but all are Computation Errors. And it was fine before.

A bad result, and a good one from before:
Outcome Computation error
Client state Compute error
Exit status 4294967111 (0xffffff47) Unknown error number

Stderr output
<core_client_version>7.4.42</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
couldn't start app: CreateProcess() failed - (unknown error)
</message>
]]>

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<core_client_version>7.4.42</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>

Build features: SETI8 Non-graphics FFTW USE_SSE2 x86
CPUID: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+

Cache: L1=64K L2=512K

CPU features: FPU TSC PAE CMPXCHG8B APIC SYSENTER MTRR CMOV/CCMP MMX FXSAVE/FXRSTOR SSE SSE2 HT SSE3
ar=4.077632 NumCfft=99339 NumGauss=0 NumPulse=13865500585 NumTriplet=28039458642
In v_BaseLineSmooth: NumDataPoints=1048576, BoxCarLength=8192, NumPointsInChunk=32768

Windows optimized setiathome_v8 application
Based on Intel, Core 2-optimized v8-nographics V5.13 by Alex Kan
SSE2x Win32 Build 3330 , Ported by : Raistmer, JDWhale
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Message 1792515 - Posted: 1 Jun 2016, 8:08:53 UTC - in response to Message 1792334.  

These settings suck on my 980Ti !!!!


Brent Norman Wrote:

Found this in the distribution info:

High end cards x8x 780TI Titan / Titan Z
-sbs 256 -spike_fft_thresh 4096 -tune 1 64 1 4 -oclfft_tune_gr 256 -oclfft_tune_lr 16 -oclfft_tune_wg 256 -oclfft_tune_ls 512 -oclfft_tune_bn 64 -oclfft_tune_cw 64 (*requires testing)


I'm gonna give it a try.
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