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Message 1803851 - Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 3:15:53 UTC - in response to Message 1803833.  

Al, one thing I do notice is that you haven't put in a command line for the 1080.

But be careful when running multiple cards, they will each need to support it.

Brent, what command line am I missing? Thanks!

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Message 1803852 - Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 3:23:18 UTC - in response to Message 1803851.  

Al,

Do you run SIV64X?

It gives a good listing of memory, temps, speeds, etc
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Message 1803855 - Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 3:53:00 UTC - in response to Message 1803852.  

Zalster, nope, never have heard of this before, is it an open source program?

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Message 1803858 - Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 3:57:18 UTC - in response to Message 1803855.  

http://rh-software.com/

You will want the siv.zip
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Message 1803864 - Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 4:31:46 UTC - in response to Message 1803858.  

Well, downloaded and extracted it, then ran the SIV64X.exe file, and it gave me the following:


Not sure how important the unsigned driver issue, but it did say that it wasn't going to allow it to install, though looking at the program, it appears that it is running fine on my laptop. Is this something I should be concerned about? It sure does have a ton of system info, as you said. Will install it on my 2 crunchers that are running currently, tomorrow morning. Thanks for the heads up on it, looks pretty comprehensive.

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Message 1808973 - Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 21:35:24 UTC
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Well, for fun I installed another 980Ti into the system today, Windows complained about it, searched and installed the drivers that were already there (Windows is so bright sometimes...), and then said I had to reboot, as before that, programs like Precision complained that there was no supported hardware.

Rebooted, everything seemed to come up fine, BOINC auto started, and looking at the in progress tasks, I saw this:



Not sure why the 2nd 980Ti is only running one task, and using a different percentage of CPU compared to the other ones.

Here is my startup log in case it has anything that sticks out.

8/13/2016 4:06:39 PM |  | Starting BOINC client version 7.6.22 for windows_x86_64
8/13/2016 4:06:39 PM |  | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
8/13/2016 4:06:39 PM |  | Libraries: libcurl/7.45.0 OpenSSL/1.0.2d zlib/1.2.8
8/13/2016 4:06:39 PM |  | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
8/13/2016 4:06:39 PM |  | Running under account Flash
8/13/2016 4:06:41 PM |  | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 1080 (driver version 368.39, CUDA version 8.0, compute capability 6.1, 4096MB, 3044MB available, 9523 GFLOPS peak)
8/13/2016 4:06:41 PM |  | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 1: GeForce GTX 980 Ti (driver version 368.39, CUDA version 8.0, compute capability 5.2, 4096MB, 3066MB available, 7271 GFLOPS peak)
8/13/2016 4:06:41 PM |  | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 2: GeForce GTX 980 Ti (driver version 368.39, CUDA version 8.0, compute capability 5.2, 4096MB, 3066MB available, 6702 GFLOPS peak)
8/13/2016 4:06:41 PM |  | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 1080 (driver version 368.39, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 8192MB, 3044MB available, 9523 GFLOPS peak)
8/13/2016 4:06:41 PM |  | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 1: GeForce GTX 980 Ti (driver version 368.39, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 6144MB, 3066MB available, 7271 GFLOPS peak)
8/13/2016 4:06:41 PM |  | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 2: GeForce GTX 980 Ti (driver version 368.39, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 6144MB, 3066MB available, 6702 GFLOPS peak)
8/13/2016 4:06:41 PM | SETI@home | Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
8/13/2016 4:06:41 PM |  | Host name: LotzaCores
8/13/2016 4:06:41 PM |  | Processor: 48 GenuineIntel       Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2692 v2 @ 2.20GHz [Family 6 Model 62 Stepping 4]
8/13/2016 4:06:41 PM |  | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt aes f16c rdrandsyscall nx lm avx vmx smx tm2 dca pbe fsgsbase smep
8/13/2016 4:06:41 PM |  | OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Ultimate x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
8/13/2016 4:06:41 PM |  | Memory: 31.97 GB physical, 63.93 GB virtual
8/13/2016 4:06:41 PM |  | Disk: 424.70 GB total, 339.77 GB free
8/13/2016 4:06:41 PM |  | Local time is UTC -5 hours
8/13/2016 4:06:41 PM | SETI@home | Found app_config.xml
8/13/2016 4:06:41 PM |  | Config: GUI RPCs allowed from:
8/13/2016 4:06:41 PM |  | Zoom-PC
8/13/2016 4:06:41 PM |  | Config: event log limit disabled
8/13/2016 4:06:41 PM |  | Config: use all coprocessors
8/13/2016 4:06:42 PM | SETI@home | URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 8012837; resource share 100
8/13/2016 4:06:42 PM | SETI@home | General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 03-Apr-2013 23:59:56)
8/13/2016 4:06:42 PM | SETI@home | Computer location: home
8/13/2016 4:06:42 PM | SETI@home | General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
8/13/2016 4:06:42 PM |  | Reading preferences override file
8/13/2016 4:06:42 PM |  | Preferences:
8/13/2016 4:06:42 PM |  | max memory usage when active: 16367.02MB
8/13/2016 4:06:42 PM |  | max memory usage when idle: 31097.34MB
8/13/2016 4:06:42 PM |  | max disk usage: 100.00GB
8/13/2016 4:06:42 PM |  | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
8/13/2016 4:06:42 PM | SETI@home | Starting task ap_02dc10aa_B2_P1_00117_20160809_32732.wu_0
8/13/2016 4:06:42 PM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
8/13/2016 4:06:42 PM | SETI@home | Reporting 2 completed tasks
8/13/2016 4:06:42 PM | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
8/13/2016 4:06:43 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 104 new tasks
8/13/2016 4:06:45 PM | SETI@home | Started download of 28au10ag.25081.22153.14.41.165

If you have any thoughts as to why it is unhappy with the new card and allowing it to run only one task instead of 4, I'd appreciate hearing them, I'm stumped.

*edit* Ok, this is weird, about 10 mins later I went in and found that somehow it has decided to start doing 4 tasks on all the cards. I looked at Precision, and noticed that my water cooled one was about 100mhz slower than the air cooled one, even though the water cooled was at 38 degrees and the air cooled was at 58. I had to bump up the voltage and the GPU clock offset a bit to get the water cooled one running at the same speed as the air cooled one. That makes no sense to me, I would assume that they are the same card, same chip, same specs, etc, so when I cranked them both up to 110%, why such a large diff in their speeds? I think this rig is haunted, and it's still over 2 months till Halloween... hmmm. Oh, and the water cooled one is now sitting at 33-34 running 4 tasks at 1447 mhz.



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Message 1808976 - Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 21:44:02 UTC - in response to Message 1808973.  
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Not sure why the 2nd 980Ti is only running one task, and using a different percentage of CPU compared to the other ones.

Because it's using your settings for that astropulse task?



That's why it was using different settings.
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Message 1808980 - Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 21:53:42 UTC - in response to Message 1803864.  

Al, not sure why you are getting an unsigned driver message with SIV64. The app has always had a Microsoft validated signature in my experience. You might want to do a SAVE ALL dump and mail the files to Ray. That way he could investigate why your system is giving the error. I would think he would appreciate the dump since your system is so extreme in its computing capabilities. Gives him more data points for development. He releases a major version release like clockwork every month with daily betas. He is about finished up with the 5.12 betas and will likely release it as general release next week.

He is a very good developer and very responsive to problem issues.

I think SIV64 is the "cadillac" of system information utilities. Everything under the sun is exposed by the app. An absolute 'must-have' utility in my opinion.
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Message 1808981 - Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 21:53:47 UTC - in response to Message 1808976.  

Not sure, but edited org response, as it now is running 4 on all, but the cards were not running at the same speeds, when the Power and GPU temp targets were set the exact same, so I had to bump one up a bit to equal the other. Strange stuff.

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Message 1808983 - Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 21:57:13 UTC - in response to Message 1808980.  

Ok, I will try getting the latest version, then uninstall the old and install the new, and if it comes up again, I will look into sending him that file. Oh, and added SIV to my orig post about this problem, in case it helps.

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Message 1808998 - Posted: 14 Aug 2016, 2:29:08 UTC - in response to Message 1808976.  

Richard, thanks for the reply, question though. If the card(s) are happily crunching away on 4 tasks at a time, and then an AP pops up, will it then throttle the card back to just that one task any time an AP occurs? Is this normal behavior, and if so, is there a way to configure it so it will run the AP task as just one of 4, and not be so greedy and suck up the whole card? :-) I presume it is a setting in one of the config files? Thanks!

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Message 1808999 - Posted: 14 Aug 2016, 2:39:00 UTC - in response to Message 1808998.  
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If you are using an app_config.xml, under the astropulse section find

<gpu_usage>1</gpu_usage>

and change it to

<gpu_usage>0.25</gpu_usage>

Headache from sniffing glue you say AL?

https://youtu.be/VmW-ScmGRMA
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Message 1809000 - Posted: 14 Aug 2016, 2:43:21 UTC - in response to Message 1808999.  

If you are using an app_config.xml, under the astropulse section find ...

He probably don't have AstroPulse section, maybe his app_config.xml is Copy/Paste from this post?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79700&postid=1793802#1793802
 


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Message 1809001 - Posted: 14 Aug 2016, 2:45:18 UTC - in response to Message 1809000.  

Yeah, that would be an issue.

He should add the section for the astropulse to it.
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Message 1809003 - Posted: 14 Aug 2016, 2:52:50 UTC
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Not sure if this will work but you could try it.

<app_config>
 <app>
  <name>setiathome_v8</name>
  <gpu_versions>
  <gpu_usage>0.50</gpu_usage>
  <cpu_usage>1.00</cpu_usage>
  </gpu_versions>
 </app>
 <app>
  <name>astropulse_v7</name>
  <gpu_versions>
  <gpu_usage>0.50</gpu_usage>
  <cpu_usage>1.00</cpu_usage>
  </gpu_versions>
 </app>
</app_config>



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Message 1809009 - Posted: 14 Aug 2016, 3:17:14 UTC - in response to Message 1808983.  

With respect to SIV64, you can always click on [OK] > [Latest Releases] to read the changes in each beta iteration to see whether anything pops up that is relevant to your hardware or OS and whether you need to update. He is always adding features.

For example, I use SIV64 to control my Corsair AIO cooler. SIV64 provides much better control and with far less issues than the bad Corsair software. Ray pretty much holds the feet of the Corsair developers to the fire to fix all their programming flaws. When they won't fix the problem, he does.

I also use SIV64 to control the fans on my Nvidia graphics cards. I use the 6 point fan control curves to keep my GPU temps under control. I've never felt the need to use the other popular fan control software, SIV64 does what I need with very little overhead. I just keep the main window always open on the desktop.

You have to explore all the capabilities of the program. Don't be afraid to just explore every menu option and definitely use the ToolTips that pop up when you hover the mouse cursor over every element in every screen to see what it displays.
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Message 1809010 - Posted: 14 Aug 2016, 3:24:45 UTC - in response to Message 1808999.  

I'll check it out and change it if it's there, and add it if it's not. Thanks!

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Message 1809011 - Posted: 14 Aug 2016, 3:29:17 UTC - in response to Message 1809009.  

Excellent! I noticed that I had the yellow ! next to the H115i in the device manager, so went looking for the driver, and came across the H115i forum on Corsairs website. Apparently they start a new issues thread every time they release a new version, and as I was reading thru the last 2-3 versions, I came across much of the same sentiment that you have: Their software is pretty much crap. So, I'll just skip their junky software, and live with the yellow !, it doesn't effect anything anyways. Thanks for the heads up on that, I'll install it while I am working on the new dual 1060 system I am putting together, that has the H115i on it.

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Message 1809019 - Posted: 14 Aug 2016, 5:22:20 UTC - in response to Message 1809011.  

All you need to do is install the driver software which is in the Corsair Link software. All SIV needs is the driver to interface to the hardware. You got unlucky with the H115i cooler as it is Asetek hardware under the covers. I have the H-100iV2 cooler which is Asetek also. It is much better to have CoolIt AIO hardware as it is more competent. You will have to install the CL link software which loads the drivers for the cooler. You can then uninstall the CL software as it leaves the hardware drivers behind I believe. That should get rid of your yellow ! in Device Manager and allow SIV to control the hardware.

The drivers you should be looking for I believe are the Silicon Laboratories Corsair Hydro Series 7289 USB Device under USB Universal Serial Bus controllers in Device Manager.

The files should be SiLib.sys and SiUSBXp.sys and should be in:

C:\Windows\System32\Drivers\

The document for explaining the SIV control of AIO hardware is:

Using SIV to control Corsair Link hardware]

If you read through the threads in the Corsair Cooling forum, you will see Ray everywhere. He is the goto guy for AIO hardware and software knowledge.
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Message 1809073 - Posted: 14 Aug 2016, 14:09:33 UTC - in response to Message 1809019.  

Keith, thanks for the heads up, now I just need to download it. Looking again at the forum to see if there's any new news, I take it that Red-Ray is the Man around there. After reading it a bit more, I have to agree with what some posters are saying, why don't they just hire him to debug some of their faulty code? He apparently has the ability to do so, but it seems from how things are('t) progressing, that they either currently don't have the skillset/ability to fix it, or they don't care. Neither of which are encouraging. Well, I'll just use SIV to control the cooler, that works for me. You mentioned Asetek vs. CoolIt, so it appears that Corsair is just rebranding other mfgs products with their names. CoolIt I take it is a better quality mfg than Asetek?

I suppose one could just go out an purchase them from the OEM, if they sell under their own name, but which versions of Corsairs products are the CoolIt style? I thought the H115i was the bad boy of their lineup, too bad they went with what appears to be the inferior brand for their flagship product. Wonder why, cost? Thanks again for the tip about SIC controlling the cooler, that's a good thing to know!

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