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Message 1783188 - Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 13:31:05 UTC

So you think you know what is going on in Russia and the Ukraine
You think so what it's got nothing to do with us .

Well tonight I watched a very disturbing Doco called

The Russian Woodpecker . I think everyone needs to watch this .

It was made in 2015 and SBS here has done subtitles so I could understand what it was about .

I have watched a few Doco's about the Chernobyl disaster but I have never herd what I herd tonight and it's bad

Was Chernobyl a accident ?????????

This Doco was done by Ukraine people .

I understand now what is going on there and the West needs to understand too.

Chernobyl was not a accident but a deliberate act to cover up the failed 25 billion over the horizon radar built near the Chernobyl Nuclear power plant .

This thing is huge .

The woodpecker signal has now started again after 25 years of silence .

Listen to it ,tune you radio's to approx. 10khz

Thank you Fedora you are a brave man . 100 people where shot just after he gave a speech at the protests in Ukraine at the time the people overthrew the old guard 2 years ago .

I was wondering what Putin was up to , now I know .

Fedora you have sterr'd up a lot of trouble .
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Message 1783190 - Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 13:40:39 UTC

Here is a link to the website

http://www.russianwoodpecker.com/

You need to watch this
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Message 1783191 - Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 13:41:26 UTC
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Darth mate , all this has been floting around on the net for years "Russian woodpecker" is / was a "numbers station" aint just the ussr have them theres loads and quite a few are still going usa ,mi5 , mi6 ,french ,polish etc no one really knows .
They were only trying to do what the British /usa tried to do on Orford ness back in the 60's /70's.
Think they must of re hashed all the info out there put a different spin and used the 30th anniversary of Chernobil to get sales / views .
I will check out your link but I reckon it's a re hash of stuff already out on the net
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Message 1783192 - Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 13:42:06 UTC

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Message 1783195 - Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 13:49:07 UTC - in response to Message 1783191.  
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NO mark you need to watch the Doco it will explain what you have also said .

Yes the woodpecker signal has been around since 1960 as the Doco explains

Yes you are correct they where just trying to do what the west was doing but

the whole project that cost 25 billion Rupals did not work so 1 man whom would have been arrested for the failed project hatched a plan to cover his trax

as they where about to do the final tests and had it happened then the head of the department who was in the inner circle of the communist party would have been arrested and killed for wasting so much money
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Message 1783197 - Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 13:54:02 UTC

The Russians do not want the west to find out about Chernobyl or the woodpecker signal witch has now started again but the Doco says a lot more and will explain what is going on in the Ukraine
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Message 1783205 - Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 14:21:33 UTC

One last thing

You think the Cold war is over !!!......

It's not and what is Putin's End game being involved with the middle east .....

WWIII .....No wonder China is doing what it is in the south China sea .....

I would say Putin is now hoping a certain man wins the election , god help us all .
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Message 1783208 - Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 14:41:23 UTC - in response to Message 1783190.  

Here is a link to the website
http://www.russianwoodpecker.com/
You need to watch this

I don't want to pay $12.99 to see a yet another conspiracy theory.
The problem with the Chernobyl disaster was the chain of command.
If the boss had listened to his collegues the disaster would probably not happened.
The cause of the accident was a combination of flawed reactor design and operator error. The operators had closed several security system, which is completely at odds with the existing rules.

The test, they were told to do had clearly stated that it would be of 700-800 MW, and that they would shut down the reactor. They did instead test at 200 MW and had not turned off the reactor since the Chernobyl boss wanted reactor 4 was to be used sooner.
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Message 1783209 - Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 14:42:45 UTC - in response to Message 1783205.  

I would say Putin is now hoping a certain man wins the election , god help us all .


If you're meaning who I think you mean we should all bend over and kiss our chocolate starfishes goodbye mate ;-)
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Message 1783210 - Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 14:48:16 UTC
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Ok one more last thing .

something for people to think about and why you do need to watch it .

Witch country's where effected the most by fallout when Chernobyl happened

Ukraine , Belarus , and Russia

Witch country's are still part of Russia ? not the Ukraine that's for shore

Where is the headquarters of the KGB .... Belarus

What could happen if it is prove the order to blow the reactor up came from Moscow , could Putin have even more trouble with Belarus if they thought mother Russia didn't give a Shite when it , the order came to blow it up .......

How would that play into Putin's plans , would it make it harder for him to have access to the north sea when or if Russia decides to invade Poland to have access to the north sea .

Has one man's questions forced Putin's and the old guards hand to force a war with the west for fear of a uprising in Belarus ?

Would Mother Russia and the Stalinists have to give up there dream of the glory days of the U.S.S.R ???????
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Message 1783214 - Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 15:15:08 UTC - in response to Message 1783208.  

I'll try and find a free copy for you to watch Jann if I can't find a free copy I can share it via ... I'll email you with intructions wink wink say no more . It's not just a conspiracy story mate .

Fedora is just a guy that was born in Chernobyl and was 4 when it happened he's a artist not a reporter of physicist just some one that is a radioactive man . He had strontium in his bones from the age of 4.

He started off just wishing to know why it happened .

However he has talked to the people who ran the Duma 2 project done a lot of research and figured out the man that gave the order who it was . This man died in 2009
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Message 1783218 - Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 15:26:21 UTC

Try this site Janne

looks like you mite be able to stream it via Amazon there's no price so it looks like it's free but try and see otherwise I will have to try and record it .

The link to SBS I don't think will work for you so see if this link does


https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/the-russian-woodpecker
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Message 1783221 - Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 15:37:53 UTC
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this is what the Duga 3 project is although Fedora called it the Duga 2

http://www.newsweek.com/hunt-russian-woodpecker-246670
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Message 1783266 - Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 17:04:04 UTC - in response to Message 1783221.  

Seriously mate this thread is getting a bit "above top secret" this stuff is on that conspiracy theory website + a few more ,does seam to me where the idea came from
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Message 1783270 - Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 17:26:22 UTC - in response to Message 1783218.  

Try this site Janne

looks like you mite be able to stream it via Amazon there's no price so it looks like it's free but try and see otherwise I will have to try and record it .
The link to SBS I don't think will work for you so see if this link does
https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/the-russian-woodpecker

Glenn. Watch this that probably describe what really happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eEpaSLi5WQ
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Message 1783299 - Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 20:17:51 UTC

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Message 1783350 - Posted: 29 Apr 2016, 1:51:32 UTC - in response to Message 1783270.  

Yes jann I have seen that Doco

Near the end of it there is a interview with the chief engineer who says the blame lie's with the Atomic Energy authorities the lack of documentation where and when it was needed lead to the explosion

Cover ups !!!!

But was it just the cover up from the building of the reactor alone or was there a bigger cover up going on with the Duga 3 project ????

The head of the Atomic Energy was a man that also was in charge of the Duga 3 project and is the man that the Russian Woodpecker Doco says was behind the cover up and possibly the order to go ahead with the test even thou the day shift had refused to do it for safety reasons at that time .

They do interview the commissioner that was charged with investigating it and he says there was a cover up .

Watch it and you will see what I mean it is a very good Doco they do go through all the possibility's but end up with a cover up . You can and they did hide problems with the reactor but you can't cover up a project that cost billions and does not work at all and the Duga 3 project was about to have a final testing phase witch the higher ups knew was going to happen .
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Message 1783364 - Posted: 29 Apr 2016, 3:34:01 UTC

Glenn,

Never ascribe to evil what is caused by incompetency.

Yes, the Chernobyl reactor mishap was kinda bad. But it was not the only nuclear mishap that Russia/U.S.S.R had.

As to that d**med 'woodpecker', it used to REALLY p155 me the 7734 off (avid shortwave radio listener AND a amateur radio operator) when it started back in the late 1970's.

'<crackle><hiss><static>PECKPECKPECKPECKPECK'. Well S**T! Forget listening to that station tonight or working that band tonight... Grrrr....

And it wasn't at 10 kHz. It could show up anywhere between 5 MHz and 20 MHz, if memory serves....

It was obviously an OTH early-warning radar, and not unique... We had a few of them too.

AFAIK, the Duga-3 network worked. It would have been the height of stupidity to have caused the Chernobyl disaster to cover up the failure of Duga-3 to operate (since it DID operate), especially in light of the EASTERN node near the Russian Pacific coast.

They did get shut down around 3 years AFTER the Chernobyl disaster, in 1989, due to the budgetary shortfalls that led to the collapse of the USSR (caused in no small part by the cleanup of the Chernobyl disaster), and not reactivated by Russia due to advances in technology...

Early-warning satellites are much superior to OTH radar. OTH radar can pick up the warheads on their way down (unless they are VERY lucky). Satellite early-warning can pick them up on LAUNCH. OTH radar is expensive as well as being unnecessary.

But... go ahead and have fun with your little conspiracy theory of the week... although, if you really want to pursue conspiracy theories, at least pick one with a chance of being true... (psst! LBJ had JFK bumped off).

Have a nice day, Glenn.
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Message 1783379 - Posted: 29 Apr 2016, 4:21:38 UTC - in response to Message 1783364.  

kong it's not the woodpecker that the Doco is trying to tell people about , apart from the accident it's self .

He is hinting on the fact that the Stalinists are still in power and are getting old now so there is a bigger risk to the world than what people think there is .

You can check this out if you still have your ham radios apparently the woodpecker signal has restarted have you herd anything ?????

If it has why are they still using a out dated tech as you say satellites are much better . Old dogs never learn ?
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Message 1783392 - Posted: 29 Apr 2016, 5:15:12 UTC - in response to Message 1783379.  

kong it's not the woodpecker that the Doco is trying to tell people about , apart from the accident it's self .

He is hinting on the fact that the Stalinists are still in power and are getting old now so there is a bigger risk to the world than what people think there is .

You can check this out if you still have your ham radios apparently the woodpecker signal has restarted have you herd anything ?????

If it has why are they still using a out dated tech as you say satellites are much better . Old dogs never learn ?


And this is news.... how? It is a known fact, in my case since Puto^Hin assumed power.

As to why it might be operational now... well... not as an OTH radar, but that equipment can have a number of other uses. 10 megawatts of power on the transmitter in the shortwave radio bands can cover a good chunk of the world. At first, I had a thought of jamming, but the internet has pretty much depopulated shortwave compared to what it once was... but the coverage area... my second (more reasoned) thought would be as a backup signaling network for military command/control, since China has demonstrated the capability to knock out satellites. Since the pulse characteristics were a result of a pseudo-random binary code they could conceivably be used to communicate data.

Yes, there are better ways for the Russkies to do this, but as you imply... why not reuse what is there?
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