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You seem to forget that the US started with almost a blank sheet of paper, with one currency, and even then decided to use Common Law. And that EU consists of countries with MANY languages, laws, traditions and cultures. Now for Euro. Without same taxation in the different countries it's ridicoulus to use a common currency. Speaking of old laws. Most countries in Europe has laws dating back at least 800 years ago and are still valid. |
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You seem to forget that the US started with almost a blank sheet of paper, with one currency, and even then decided to use Common Law. It wasn't until civil war times the US had one currency. I'm sure the Presidents of the 13 Colonies would disagree about there being one set of rules. Took the civil war to sort out one disagreement that was swept under the rug. Much of the rest was sorted out because there was a common enemy and "the enemy of your enemy is your friend." That may be the reason the USA was a success. Necessity. What appears wrong with the EU is what was wrong with the Articles of Confederation. No Europe Government. No hard and fast set of rules every sub-level of government must adhere to and not merely a set of suggestions. As to different tax rates, the US has that today. That is why Texas, Nevada and Delaware show up in the Panama Papers. As to languages and cultures, the Canadians seem able to run a country with more than one language/culture. The US didn't do a good job after The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo or Tratado de Guadalupe Hidalgo. But this was before the civil war got the notion of legal slavery out of everyone's orbit. There is a lot of history lesson there if you wish to learn it, so you don't repeat it. ![]() |
Darth Beaver ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 ![]() |
Can't you tell Texas change your Tax laws or no money from federal coffers shorly the Fed could do something . Texas needs to be careful there tax free may just back fire when the investment goes as other states and governments clamp down not saying people will go to jail just people will pull there money out because they getting fine , tariff's and stuff on them elsewhere ![]() |
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Taxes are the price of civilization, and most people would rather not pay taxes.. Rather a paradox it is. |
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Can't you tell Texas change your Tax laws or no money from federal coffers shorly the Fed could do something . Texas needs to be careful there tax free may just back fire when the investment goes as other states and governments clamp down not saying people will go to jail just people will pull there money out because they getting fine , tariff's and stuff on them elsewhere The federal government can not tell Texas or any other state how to run its government. If Texas funds its government off sales tax and not income tax that is the Texas way. If California has the highest state income tax of the 50, that is the California way. If Alaska has a negative income tax rate, that is the Alaska way! All of you need to remember the USA is a grouping of independent states. It says it right in its name. Think the EU but with a strong Brussels, strong enough to tax Germans and Britons to pay for Greece's misdeeds. ![]() |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24922 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
All of you need to remember the USA is a grouping of independent states. It says it right in its name. Think the EU but with a strong Brussels, strong enough to tax Germans and Britons to pay for Greece's misdeeds. & there lies the crux of the problem! |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24922 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
When the biggest powerhouse in Europe start demonstrating, something must be out of kilter... Germans say "Nein" ...meanwhile the bimbo in the White House knowing only 9 months left starts lining his back pocket. |
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All of you need to remember the USA is a grouping of independent states. It says it right in its name. Think the EU but with a strong Brussels, strong enough to tax Germans and Britons to pay for Greece's misdeeds. Union you stand, divided Trump buys you. ![]() |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24922 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
Surprising to see that from a teacher! That will never be the solution as there will always be those who want to be the "Top Dogs". |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24922 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
It's not the individual who needs to learn those lessons but those that govern. If you "really" did study & teach History, you would know that! |
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People seem to get the government they deserve..... :):) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31117 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 ![]() ![]() |
Again. Why give Centralized Power to anyone or entity? Someone who claims to be a former police officer arguing for anarchy? ![]() |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19483 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
Why give Centralized Power to anyone or entity? For at least one reason. The larger the region under centralised power the less chance of conflict. |
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<grin> Dark Helmet: So, Lone Star, now you see that Evil will always triumph... because Good is DUMB! (Spaceballs (1987) - Mel Brooks) To successfully fight Evil, Good must understand evil and its methods, essentially THINK like Evil... Something that most Good people have a VERY hard time doing. |
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Why give Centralized Power to anyone or entity? There will ALWAYS be conflict, especially conflict over WHO HAS the 'power'. Having a decentralized power structure limits the damage that an evil person can do when they invariably succeed in attaining a position of power. |
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Can't you tell Texas change your Tax laws or no money from federal coffers shorly the Fed could do something . Texas needs to be careful there tax free may just back fire when the investment goes as other states and governments clamp down not saying people will go to jail just people will pull there money out because they getting fine , tariff's and stuff on them elsewhere Glenn, I think that you may be misunderstanding something. In the USA, ALL levels of Government tax. Texas can't do much about Federal Taxes, but State-level Taxes in Texas the Texas State Government can certainly set. Texas may not have a State Income Tax... but we all still responsible for paying Federal Income Tax... Clearer? Oh, and just where do you think the money in the 'Federal Coffers' comes from? Either the Federal Government just (figuratively speaking) 'prints' it to cover its deficit spending, or it taxes the People (almost all of which live in one of the 50 States - D.C. and PR being two exceptions that come to mind). If the Federal Government started withholding various Federal spending program's payments to Texas residents... Well, surely you must know that the 'American Revolution' (1775-1783) started in LARGE part due to unfair taxation. Personally, I don't think that the corrupt sunny-beaches in Washington D.C. are crazy enough to go down that road... yet... but likely that day will come. |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19483 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
Why give Centralized Power to anyone or entity? I think you misunderstood. It could be argued that the European Union has reduced the possibility of conflict between it's members. Conflict has been a European problem, probably, since the last ice age. |
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Why do the posts that need a long answer always happen just before the outrage? ![]() |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19483 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
Why do the posts that need a long answer always happen just before the outrage? So that you have longer to think about them. |
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Why give Centralized Power to anyone or entity? If you really and truly believe that... oy... If you really believe that, then doubtlessly you believe that Britain should have immediately surrendered to Hitler. Britain was what held Hitler back from conquering the world. No, the price of centralized power is too high, given the likelihood that some evil sunny-beach would be the one holding it. |
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