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Message 1758308 - Posted: 22 Jan 2016, 20:56:38 UTC - in response to Message 1758305.  

A big thank you to the Lunatics group for their efforts.


I double down on what Grant said. A big thanks to all involved.
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Message 1758339 - Posted: 22 Jan 2016, 21:52:49 UTC

Kitties are all in with Lunatics on 9 rigs.....
Since this morning, 517 pending, 3 inconclusive, 109 valid, invalids nought, errors nought.

Looking good here so far in the kitty camp!!!
Thanks again to all the Lunatics crew!

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Message 1758413 - Posted: 23 Jan 2016, 0:11:14 UTC

Thanks guys!!!!! My two NVIDIA cards are busy again!!! :-)

Surprisingly, my Antivirus program left the new v8 Units alone... It flagged EVERY Unit from EVERY Project; but, kindly left v8 8.00 CUDA50 work completely alone to crunch freely. :-)

Lunatics 0.44 seems to be working flawlessly for me. I even upgraded BOINC on both systems to 7.6.22, and that too seems to be fine. :-)

Thanks again, greatly appreciate all your efforts. :-)


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Message 1758414 - Posted: 23 Jan 2016, 0:16:59 UTC

About Antivirus,

I excluded my BOINC folder and my TThrottle folded from scanning, NOT scanning all those read/writes has greatly increased my system stability, and probably performance.
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Message 1758418 - Posted: 23 Jan 2016, 0:22:10 UTC - in response to Message 1758414.  

About Antivirus,

I excluded my BOINC folder and my TThrottle folded from scanning, NOT scanning all those read/writes has greatly increased my system stability, and probably performance.

Unfortunately, the Antivirus program I have does NOT allow Folder/App Exclusions. It uses a Whitelist instead of a Blacklist... All files get scanned. I have set Prompt for override, so that I can flag the WUs and Lunatics as "Always Allow". It just means that when something new comes out, work wise, I have to be at the computer to catch the Flag Alert and click "Always Allow"...

ALL the Beta v8 work got flagged. Why Main v8 and Lunatics didn't is a pleasant surprise to me.


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Message 1758433 - Posted: 23 Jan 2016, 0:37:34 UTC
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After installing the client reports missing files, but I am crunching away normally.

22/01/2016 7:30:47 PM | SETI@home | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_8.00_windows_intelx86.exe not found
22/01/2016 7:30:47 PM | SETI@home | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setigraphics_8.00_windows_intelx86.exe not found
22/01/2016 7:30:47 PM | SETI@home | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_8.00_windows_intelx86__cuda50.exe not found
22/01/2016 7:30:47 PM | SETI@home | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_8.00_windows_intelx86__cuda42.exe not found
22/01/2016 7:30:47 PM | SETI@home | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/cudart32_42_9.dll not found
22/01/2016 7:30:47 PM | SETI@home | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/cufft32_42_9.dll not found
22/01/2016 7:30:47 PM | SETI@home | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86__cuda42.exe not found
22/01/2016 7:30:47 PM | SETI@home | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86__cuda50.exe not found


In order to clear out any old junk, I detached/reattached to clear the folder when v8 GPU client was released and ran stock with no app_info.xml until installing Lunatics 0.44, so nothing I did (I think!) But it seems to be working.

Edit: After quitting/restarting the client (which I am doing often tweaking app_info) seems to have gone away.
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Message 1758440 - Posted: 23 Jan 2016, 0:55:25 UTC
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I seen the same here:

22/01/2016 12:48:29 PM |  | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_8.00_windows_intelx86__cuda50.exe not found
22/01/2016 12:48:29 PM |  | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_8.00_windows_intelx86__cuda42.exe not found
22/01/2016 12:48:29 PM |  | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/cudart32_42_9.dll not found
22/01/2016 12:48:29 PM |  | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/cufft32_42_9.dll not found
22/01/2016 12:48:29 PM |  | Not using a proxy
22/01/2016 12:49:01 PM | SETI@home | work fetch resumed by user
22/01/2016 12:49:04 PM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
22/01/2016 12:49:04 PM | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for NVIDIA GPU
22/01/2016 12:49:06 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
22/01/2016 12:49:06 PM | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
22/01/2016 12:54:15 PM | SETI@home | update requested by user
22/01/2016 12:54:16 PM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
22/01/2016 12:54:16 PM | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for NVIDIA GPU
22/01/2016 12:54:18 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 3 new tasks
22/01/2016 12:54:20 PM | SETI@home | Started download of 25se11ab.23145.24607.3.30.72
22/01/2016 12:54:20 PM | SETI@home | Started download of 23no11ac.28717.76483.15.42.206
22/01/2016 12:54:22 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of 23no11ac.28717.76483.15.42.206
22/01/2016 12:54:22 PM | SETI@home | Started download of 23no11ac.28717.76483.15.42.212
22/01/2016 12:54:22 PM | SETI@home | Starting task 23no11ac.28717.76483.15.42.206_1
22/01/2016 12:54:24 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of 25se11ab.23145.24607.3.30.72
22/01/2016 12:54:24 PM | SETI@home | Starting task 25se11ab.23145.24607.3.30.72_0
22/01/2016 12:54:25 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of 23no11ac.28717.76483.15.42.212


Tasks downloaded and started, Just bad reporting of files?

EDIT: BTW, that was the 32 bit installer.
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Message 1758507 - Posted: 23 Jan 2016, 5:26:34 UTC - in response to Message 1758214.  

I do have a request for 0.45 though (whenever that finally comes out), could you make a setting where it changes the <count> to 0.50 or 0.33 based upon how many instances the person feels is appropriate for their particular setup? I had to spend about 20 minutes going through and changing all the 1s to 0.50s and 0.33s (and I've had to do this a number of times before too), it would be really great if there were a way to change it in the installer and then the proper count could be set in the app_info. I'm not sure if that's something that's even possible, but it would save a lot of people a lot of time (and potential mistakes).

I entirely agree, good idea.

that's a tad difficult, but you just gave me an idea. I'll run it past Richard, maybe we can rustle up something for the next version using app_config.xml (boinc versions 7.0.40+ only)

In theory if Richard's installer can modify an app_info.xml file, it should in theory be able to alter an app_config.xml as well, they are the same kind of files. Of course you could use find & replace if your word processor supports it.

NB these days if you have a v7 BOINC it's far easier to use app_config.xml instead of changing counts in app_info.xml, plus the installer doesn't touch app_config.xml (yet).

Even better for use in the meantime. Any chance of seeing a typical example of an app_config.xml for multiple workunits, I will have 6 machines to alter.
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Message 1758510 - Posted: 23 Jan 2016, 5:45:30 UTC - in response to Message 1758507.  
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Any chance of seeing a typical example of an app_config.xml for multiple workunits, I will have 6 machines to alter.


NB- I run MB only and are giving 3 at a time a go.
Put it in the same directory as app_info.xml
For me
C:\Programdata\BOINC\Projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu

Once there, just select Options, Read config files from the BOINC Manager menu & it's done.


<app_config>
<app>
<name>setiathome_v8</name>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>0.30</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>0.04</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>
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Message 1758520 - Posted: 23 Jan 2016, 6:55:41 UTC

Many thanks Grant I'll try that over the weekend. I'm assuming that stopping and re-staring Boinc would have the same effect as read options?
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Message 1758526 - Posted: 23 Jan 2016, 7:23:54 UTC - in response to Message 1758148.  

Because of some slight gremlins with the new Lunatics software, we are distributing the installer as a .zip file this time - you will have to extract the executable file before running it. Sorry about that.

No need to sorry - I feel a .zip file have some advantages:
- Less probability that some bad Antivirus will flag (quarantine) a .zip file
- If partial (unfinished) Download - it will be impossible to extract and run broken .exe
- The extracted .exe file will have the same date for everybody - no matter when the .zip is Downloaded
- The .exe file will have the proper filename casing (Lunatics_Win32_v0.44_setup.exe) (on Mike's site the filenames are always lowercase (lunatics_win32_v0.44_setup.exe) which I don't like for aesthetic and easy-read reasons)
- You can put some other files in the .zip - e.g. ReadMe, screenshots from the installer, MD5 checksums
bbd00fc3309fb37b208a4d9d2214f5c3 *Lunatics_Win32_v0.44_setup.exe
321d40b23aec946e233c81d767020f69 *Lunatics_Win64_v0.44_setup.exe

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This time there are only a few 'False Positives':

Lunatics_Win32_v0.44_setup.exe (Detection ratio: 3 / 51 ("Antivirus scan timed out" shown for 3 of the Antiviruses))
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/65b8a7f63b87d94f68823a3a8720d7166b363206b258c026830195d3b5fc81a7/analysis/

Lunatics_Win64_v0.44_setup.exe (Detection ratio: 1 / 55)
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/455d052cca6cdc9e8d8acae34e24411b7ab1c201201be38b73faa76b1572dd7f/analysis/
 


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Message 1758527 - Posted: 23 Jan 2016, 7:34:05 UTC - in response to Message 1758526.  
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Google chrome automatically flags it as an unsafe site as it says there isn't enough downloads from it to verify that it is safe.

Just have to tell it to ignore that and download anyway.
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Message 1758528 - Posted: 23 Jan 2016, 7:52:20 UTC - in response to Message 1758527.  

Google chrome automatically flags it as an unsafe site as it says there isn't enough downloads from it to verify that it is safe.

Just have to tell it to ignore that and download anyway.

I experienced that yesterday, too. I was the third download of the 64-bit version.
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Message 1758543 - Posted: 23 Jan 2016, 8:31:55 UTC - in response to Message 1758520.  

Many thanks Grant I'll try that over the weekend. I'm assuming that stopping and re-staring Boinc would have the same effect as read options?

Yep.
One of the things I like about app_config v app_info is that it isn't necessary to exit & restart; but it's still a viable option.
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Message 1758556 - Posted: 23 Jan 2016, 9:26:38 UTC - in response to Message 1758507.  

...based upon how many instances the person feels is appropriate for their particular setup?

In theory if Richard's installer can modify an app_info.xml file, it should in theory be able to alter an app_config.xml as well, they are the same kind of files.

It's the user input which is the hard part - we haven't quite got that telepathy module working yet. Most of the effort in that kind of programming goes into the user interface, and we're already pretty cluttered.

Of course you could use find & replace if your word processor supports it.

Don't use a word processor, just plain old Notepad (or its posh cousin, Notepad++). Both have find & replace, including a 'replace all' button - that's what I use to create the updated AIstub files in the first place.
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Message 1758560 - Posted: 23 Jan 2016, 9:34:34 UTC - in response to Message 1758556.  


Don't use a word processor, just plain old Notepad (or its posh cousin, Notepad++). Both have find & replace, including a 'replace all' button - that's what I use to create the updated AIstub files in the first place.

FAR with embedded editor here. And you will never feel lost in Explorer's folders since Norton Commander times :)
Also, FAR and MidnightCommander very similar in their interface that allows to find something familiar in Linux world too.
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Message 1758594 - Posted: 23 Jan 2016, 11:39:48 UTC

Very small visual 7ypo (which don't really need correction) on ATI and Intel pages:
Can you spot it ;)


 


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Message 1758598 - Posted: 23 Jan 2016, 11:42:01 UTC
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A big 'Thank you alot!' to all who were/are involved.

Windows 8.1 x64, GT730, 347.52 driver will work with all nVIDIA apps which are included in the 0.44 Installer?

Just SAHv8 CUDA or also OpenCL app is included for nVIDIA VGA cards?

Thanks.

(I ask before I start to use the apps from the Installer)
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Message 1758600 - Posted: 23 Jan 2016, 11:52:06 UTC - in response to Message 1758594.  

Very small visual 7ypo (which don't really need correction) on ATI and Intel pages:
Can you spot it ;)

OK, MB filenames should start 'MB8' - sorry about that. Will correct in UI source while I remember.

(I was concentrating on editing the r number at the end of the line)
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Message 1758601 - Posted: 23 Jan 2016, 11:55:11 UTC - in response to Message 1758598.  

Windows 8.1 x64, GT730, 347.52 driver will work with all nVIDIA apps which are included in the 0.44 Installer?

Just SAHv8 CUDA or also OpenCL app is included for nVIDIA VGA cards?

That combination should be fine for all included applications.

For Multibeam, only CUDA applications are included: choose cuda50 for that card.

There is an OpenCL application for Astropulse, but it doesn't have the same driver restriction as OpenCL for MB.
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