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Message 1914404 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 12:16:27 UTC - in response to Message 1914369.  

Google MS St Louis.

And that is relevant to my post... because... ?

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Read your post again, the answer is there :-)

I re-read my post 2 more times and still do not see the relevance of comparing the MS St. Louis to my post.

Unless... You're comparing it to my statement about the British derelict ships being used to house our POWs in such a deplorable manner. The Jewish refugees were NOT housed in such a manner so I see no relevance.

You point to me where there is ANY relevance whatsoever.

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Okay this makes it clearer for you. Please note that there is no reference to anything British. Funny thing about Americans using reference to other countries past to make a point while forgetting their own.

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Dude, you are so hilarious! LOL! Did I say ANYTHING at all about our Civil War? NO! I said Revolutionary War where the British wanted to reign over the colonists that wanted to have their independence from GB.

You should learn to read and comprehend what others post and not assume something they are not posting.

So, yeah the U.S. is all BAD just as you say. So from now on, when you get into trouble that you cannot handle, DON'T COME CRYING TO US FOR HELP!!!

And, before you continue calling the U.S. bad, look at your own history. THAT was the point I was trying to make. Look at how you treated the Scottish. We gained our independence from an over powering, over pompous, over bearing, over taxing bully.

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Message 1914407 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 12:32:44 UTC - in response to Message 1914404.  

Well it's like this Dude, you mentioned how your pow's were treated by the British. Doesn't matter what war you meant. Better if you comprehend your musings befre actually posting.

BTW, Ireland never mistreated the Scottish :-) As for your last comment so did we boy :-)
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Message 1914413 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 13:42:35 UTC - in response to Message 1914407.  
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Well it's like this Dude, you mentioned how your pow's were treated by the British. Doesn't matter what war you meant. Better if you comprehend your musings befre actually posting.

BTW, Ireland never mistreated the Scottish :-) As for your last comment so did we boy :-)

A nuanced correction.

Many thousand British citizens volunteered to fight for The North during the American Civil War. But I don't believe they were included in either your initial post or another posters response.

And the Irish Immigrants? Well, that is a very long and complicated story. Which includes the British and Americans of British descent bigotry against the Irish.
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Message 1914415 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 13:48:47 UTC - in response to Message 1914413.  

Many thousand British citizens volunteered to fight for The North during the American Civil War.

Got any evidence for that, because in my neck of the woods, where cotton is king, we supported the South.
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Message 1914416 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 13:55:06 UTC - in response to Message 1914413.  

Get it right history professor. The comment was how the British treated pow's during the revolutionary war. If that is still in the minds of Yankees today, it seems that approximately 90 years later, they failed to take heed of that mistreatment hence Andersonville.

So if one uses the past by stating the mistakes of other countries past, one must accept their own mistakes as well :-)

You Yanks made some howlers when all is said & done.

As the Irish Troubles has shown, one cannot use troops as police officers, so your continuing to militarise your own police forces will come back to bite your butts. As seen over the last decade at least, it's only going to get worse & the excuses given for incidents being seen will be feeble.
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Message 1914419 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 14:13:13 UTC - in response to Message 1914415.  
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Many thousand British citizens volunteered to fight for The North during the American Civil War.

Got any evidence for that, because in my neck of the woods, where cotton is king, we supported the South.

Your "neck of the woods" is again incorrect.

Yes... The British Government and the British Mercantile Class Capitalists to their damnation. Supported slavery to increase their wealth.

I am referencing British Individuals.

•36th Infantry Regiment Civil War Washington Volunteers•

https://dmna.ny.gov/historic/reghist/civil/infantry/36thInf/36thInfMain.htm

•The Britons who died for the Stars and Stripes: How thousands of volunteers gave their lives in America's Civil War•

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1330735/Thousands-British-volunteers-gave-lives-Americas-civil-war.html#ixzz54pO4cOAZ

•Why Englishmen Fought in the American Civil War•

http://www.historytoday.com/daniel-clarke/why-englishmen-fought-american-civil-war

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Message 1914422 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 14:38:46 UTC - in response to Message 1914419.  
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Your "neck of the woods" is again incorrect.

You fail to understand my "neck of the woods and cotton", thought you knew something about history.
My neck of the woods is East Lancashire, and because of the Norths blockade over 70% of the cotton mills here had to be closed and thousands suffered hardship and starvation. And there were many calls for the Royal Navy to break the blockade.

And if you do your research correctly you will find there were just about as many UK volunteers for the South.
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Message 1914423 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 14:48:10 UTC - in response to Message 1914422.  
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Your "neck of the woods" is again incorrect.

You fail to understand my "neck of the woods and cotton", thought you knew something about history.
My neck of the woods is East Lancashire, and because of the Norths blockade over 70% of the cotton mills here had to be closed and thousands suffered hardship and starvation. And there were many calls for the Royal Navy to break the blockade.

Again, another attempt to mislead others by only quoting part of the response. The entire quote referenced your question, which you omitted.

Many thousand British citizens volunteered to fight for The North during the American Civil War.
Got any evidence for that, because in my neck of the woods, where cotton is king, we supported the South.

I then posted the evidence you requested.

Your "neck of the woods" is again incorrect.
Yes... The British Government and the British Mercantile Class Capitalists to their damnation. Supported slavery to increase their wealth.
I am referencing British Individuals.
•36th Infantry Regiment Civil War Washington Volunteers•
https://dmna.ny.gov/historic/reghist/civil/infantry/36thInf/36thInfMain.htm
•The Britons who died for the Stars and Stripes: How thousands of volunteers gave their lives in America's Civil War•
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1330735/Thousands-British-volunteers-gave-lives-Americas-civil-war.html#ixzz54pO4cOAZ
•Why Englishmen Fought in the American Civil War•
http://www.historytoday.com/daniel-clarke/why-englishmen-fought-american-civil-war
And more, and more, and more, and...

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Message 1914424 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 14:53:55 UTC - in response to Message 1914423.  

and what about CSS Alabama as one quick example.
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Message 1914426 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 15:08:36 UTC - in response to Message 1914424.  
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and what about CSS Alabama as one quick example.

Correct. But another failed attempt to defect attention from the following fact. That thousands of British individuals volunteered to fight in the American Civil War. Which a poster denied and asked for attributions.

•36th Infantry Regiment Civil War Washington Volunteers•
https://dmna.ny.gov/historic/reghist/civil/infantry/36thInf/36thInfMain.htm
•The Britons who died for the Stars and Stripes: How thousands of volunteers gave their lives in America's Civil War•
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1330735/Thousands-British-volunteers-gave-lives-Americas-civil-war.html#ixzz54pO4cOAZ
•Why Englishmen Fought in the American Civil War•
http://www.historytoday.com/daniel-clarke/why-englishmen-fought-american-civil-war
And more, and more, and more, and...

BTW: Is everyone getting a little bored by their commandeering of this and other important subjects. Just to continue their attacks against another poster?
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Message 1914427 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 15:37:48 UTC - in response to Message 1914423.  

Your "neck of the woods" is again incorrect.
It always pleases me to correct those who need correction.
You are incorrect. Nick is correct, it is just your "misunderstanding" of our culture & language, something which you oft remind us of about America :-)
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Message 1914430 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 15:42:07 UTC - in response to Message 1914427.  
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Your "neck of the woods" is again incorrect.
It always pleases me to correct those who need correction.
You are incorrect. Nick is correct, it is just your "misunderstanding" of our culture & language, something which you oft remind us of about America :-)

Again, the entire quote that started your attacks.

Your "neck of the woods" is again incorrect.

Yes... The British Government and the British Mercantile Class Capitalists to their damnation. Supported slavery to increase their wealth.

I am referencing British Individuals.

Why don't you believe that thousands of British Individuals volunteered to fight in the American Civil War?
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Message 1914432 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 15:48:16 UTC - in response to Message 1914430.  

"Neck of the Woods" here is the equivalent of your "10-20" 10-4?
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Message 1914434 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 15:50:11 UTC

What have old relations between Britain and the US with US gun problem today?
Both the American Revolution War and the Civil War is the main reason why the 2'nd Amendment in the US Constitution exist.
But I thought the relations between Britain and the USA was settled more than 100 years ago.

Anyway.
The British elite tended to support the Confederacy, but ordinary people tended to support the Union.
I don't know the proportions but the vast majority of the about 50,000 Brits in the conflict fought on the Union side.

Hmm. Scandinavian immigrants where involved in the US Civil War as well
Extensive genealogical research can uncover only about 1,000 Scandinavian-Americans living in states that joined the Confederacy; among the Southern forces only 19 soldiers can be found who claimed Scandinavian descent.
There were a great many more Scandinavians to be counted among the soldiers of the Union, from a far larger population. Nearly 55,000 of the American soldiers claimed to have been born in Scandinavia.
http://www.civilwarhome.com/scandinavian.html.
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Message 1914435 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 15:52:47 UTC - in response to Message 1914432.  
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"Neck of the Woods" here is the equivalent of your "10-20" 10-4?

You still disagree that the "neck of the woods" belief posted by a Non American. Is incorrect regarding if thousands of British Individuals volunteered to fight in the American Civil War?
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Message 1914436 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 16:02:06 UTC - in response to Message 1914430.  

Why don't you believe that thousands of British Individuals volunteered to fight in the American Civil War?

But I do. It's just you seem to think they only fought on one side.
In all probability there were approx equal numbers on both sides.

And just stop going on about us, on this side of the pond, not understanding the US and its 51 states. You haven't got the foggiest about the variations in even English variations, never mind UK regions.
And you probably need another ten years before you will understand a majority of the variations in Europe. The variations aren't even Country to Country.
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Message 1914437 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 16:02:11 UTC - in response to Message 1914435.  

"Neck of the Woods" here is the equivalent of your "10-20" 10-4?

You still disagree that in the "neck of the woods" belief posted by a Non American. Is incorrect regarding if thousands of British Individuals volunteered to fight in the American Civil War?
I'll state it again, you have an incorrect view not only of our culture but language in general. Asides from knowing enough about my own country's history as well as a good knowledge of world history, I know more than enough about British history. Lancashire was the heart of its cotton industry.

How you can twist comments about to suit yourself brings into serious question your statement that you were a university teacher. When you have been taken to task over a topic your fall back position has always been "back to subject". So what is happening here Clyde? Forgot your mantra already?
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Message 1914439 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 16:13:22 UTC - in response to Message 1914437.  

"Neck of the Woods" here is the equivalent of your "10-20" 10-4?

You still disagree that in the "neck of the woods" belief posted by a Non American. Is incorrect regarding if thousands of British Individuals volunteered to fight in the American Civil War?
I'll state it again, you have an incorrect view not only of our culture but language in general. Asides from knowing enough about my own country's history as well as a good knowledge of world history, I know more than enough about British history. Lancashire was the heart of its cotton industry.

How you can twist comments about to suit yourself brings into serious question your statement that you were a university teacher. When you have been taken to task over a topic your fall back position has always been "back to subject". So what is happening here Clyde? Forgot your mantra already?

Thank you for clarifying your disagreement. Again, my references, if you cared to read them, showed both sides.

•36th Infantry Regiment Civil War Washington Volunteers•
https://dmna.ny.gov/historic/reghist/civil/infantry/36thInf/36thInfMain.htm
•The Britons who died for the Stars and Stripes: How thousands of volunteers gave their lives in America's Civil War•
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1330735/Thousands-British-volunteers-gave-lives-Americas-civil-war.html#ixzz54pO4cOAZ
•Why Englishmen Fought in the American Civil War•
http://www.historytoday.com/daniel-clarke/why-englishmen-fought-american-civil-war
And more, and more, and more, and...

Your personal attacks are, as always. A confirmation of my beliefs regarding the foundation of your supposed arguments and disagreements.

Which is driving you to continually commandeer subjects to attack another.
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Message 1914440 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 16:25:16 UTC - in response to Message 1914436.  

And you probably need another ten years before you will understand a majority of the variations in Europe. The variations aren't even Country to Country.

And to learn and understan our languages over here.
Lanky and Scouse comes to mind speaking of Lancashire.
Well there perhaps not languages but can be difficult to understand.
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Message 1914441 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 16:25:41 UTC - in response to Message 1914439.  

When Yanks like you & Siran post crap like this:
Oh, and I learned about some atrocities done by the British, during the war, to our pows. Putting them on derelict British ships in the NY harbor, chained together with little to no food and diseases running rampant. Shame on you! ;)
Expect replies that show up your errors. A beauty of a reply was Andersonville.

Funny how you two bite hard when those errors are displayed for all to see. So you continue with your mantras, the rest of us will continue to enjoy the chuckles :-)
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