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Message 2101643 - Posted: 21 Jun 2022, 1:58:14 UTC - in response to Message 2101641.  

... Or send the NRA supporters to the Donbas to help Ukraine?


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Message 2101650 - Posted: 21 Jun 2022, 4:40:04 UTC

... Or send the NRA supporters to the Donbas to help Ukraine?


Oh, This Would Make GUNs; KILLING; DEATH; and WAR a GOoD Thing?

As Long as WE Keep Sending them ARMs and MONIEs -
Every US Taxpayer is COMPLICIT in ALL DEATH and DESTRUCTION in Ukraine.

How to Stop It? Not Pay TAXES? Most TAXES are Taken Out In Ways WE CAN'T STOP.

OK, We'll Quit JOBs; Have NO Home; and Won't Eat.

Or.....Nah!!!!! Always Some GUN Nut or Other WHACKed Politico to Take their Place. And Once
a Politico, DNA Changes and a New KILLER ROBOT is 'Born'.

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Message 2101662 - Posted: 21 Jun 2022, 13:00:57 UTC - in response to Message 2101650.  
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Oh, This Would Make GUNs; KILLING; DEATH; and WAR a GOoD Thing?


It isn't "good" but is legally and ethically warranted self-defense, just as a homeowner using their firearms to defend their home and family from armed invaders is.

"Good" would have been Vladimir Putin retiring many years ago and reforms including legimate elections.
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Message 2101710 - Posted: 22 Jun 2022, 7:00:16 UTC
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Message 2101735 - Posted: 22 Jun 2022, 19:16:31 UTC - in response to Message 2101662.  

... just as a homeowner using their firearms to defend their home and family from armed invaders...

Except...

That has repeatedly been sadly demonstrated not to work for the homeowner. The 'invader' has far too great an advantage by far...


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Message 2101736 - Posted: 22 Jun 2022, 19:18:52 UTC

Another "sweep it under the carpet" response:

Uvalde shooting: Robb Elementary School to be demolished - mayor


Meanwhile, will this have any meaningfully positive effect?...

US gun control: Bill clears first hurdle in US Senate



Only in the USA?...

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Message 2101749 - Posted: 22 Jun 2022, 20:09:55 UTC

.....the 'invader' has far too great an advantage by far...


The INVADERs Taking a Well Deserved DIRT NAP, will Disagree.

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Message 2101812 - Posted: 23 Jun 2022, 17:09:41 UTC

Supreme Court Overturns NY's Concealed Carry Law

The Supreme Court on Thursday struck down a New York law that regulated who is allowed to carry a concealed weapon in public, expanding gun rights nationwide at a time when the country is reeling from a series of recent mass shooting.

In a 6-3 decision by the court's conservative majority, the justices ruled that requiring people to demonstrate a particular need for carrying a gun in order to get a license to carry one in public violated the Second Amendment right to “keep and bear arms.”


There goes visiting NYC off my bucket list. :^p
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Message 2101819 - Posted: 23 Jun 2022, 18:02:08 UTC

People WILL CARRY No Matter What LAW Says. They Will Risk Getting Arrested, because USING GUN in CRIME or Using GUN to Protect Themselves in IMPORTANT to Them

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Message 2101823 - Posted: 23 Jun 2022, 19:03:09 UTC
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Really?

'Defensive' gun use in your everyday life??...

Let's see?...


52 Shocking Gun Violence Statistics {2022 Update}
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... 9. States with a higher density of guns experience more gun deaths...

... 10. Half of all gun-related deaths in the world take place in just six countries...

Based on the latest global gun violence statistics, six countries—Brazil (43,200), USA (37,200), Mexico (15,400), Colombia (13,300), Venezuela (12,800), and Guatemala (5,090)—account for about 50.5% of the 251,000 gun deaths in the world. Population-wise, less than 10% of the world’s population resides in these countries...

... 13. America accounts for one-third of the world’s total number of gun suicides...

... 35. 67% of gun owners in the US cite protection or self-defense as the reason for owning a firearm...

... 36. Less than 1% of victims of non-fatal attacks use guns for self-defense...

... actual instances of gun use for self-defense are too low to justify carrying firearms in public. The widespread presence of arms ends up making conflicts deadlier than they have to be...

... 37. Concealed carry permit laws can lead to increases in violent crimes by 13-15%...

... 43. 45% of American males personally owned a gun...

... 45. States with stricter gun control laws witness fewer gun-related deaths...

... 47. Less than 10% of Americans are members of the NRA...

... 48. Policies that limit access to guns also lead to a decrease in suicide rates...


18 Balanced Gun Self-Defense Statistics
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... Overall, gun self-defense statistics and facts point to American citizens’ different and often contradictory viewpoints, as well as law enforcement officers’ ones, regarding gun ownership rights. Research shows that the debate is closely connected to political affiliation.

... Most studies suggest that the ‘good guy’ with a gun very rarely responds quickly enough to stop an active shooter.


Gun Threats and Self-Defense Gun Use
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... 4. Most purported self-defense gun uses are gun uses in escalating arguments, and are both socially undesirable and illegal...

... 5. Firearms are used far more often to intimidate than in self-defense...

... 6. Guns in the home are used more often to intimidate intimates than to thwart crime...

... 8. Criminals who are shot are typically [themselves] the victims of crime...

... these detainees had been wounded, in events that appear unrelated to their incarceration. Most were shot when they were [themselves] victims of robberies, assaults and crossfires. Virtually none report being wounded by a “law-abiding citizen.”...

... 11. Self-defense gun use is rare and not more effective at preventing injury than other protective actions...

... little evidence that self-defense gun use is uniquely beneficial in reducing the likelihood of injury or property loss.

This article helps provide accurate information concerning self-defense gun use. It shows that many of the claims about the benefits of gun ownership are largely myths.


How Often Are Guns Used for Self-Defense?
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... the NRA’s research director wrote in a January 2021 memo to board members. “This is why no matter the policy, our messaging continues to focus on self-defense.”

Defensive gun use ... “is the linchpin of almost all the arguments about having a gun.”...

... “What we do know for sure,” Hemenway said, “is that having a gun in your house increases suicides, it increases gun accidents, and it increases homicides, at least of women in the house. And we can’t find any benefit from it.”



I do wonder if the high gun crime rate across the Americas is fueled by drug crime gangs and the history of gangster mobs from the days of the USA Prohibition...

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Message 2101825 - Posted: 23 Jun 2022, 19:14:00 UTC

A Person Who SAVED their OWN LIFE from a BADDIE Encounter Because of Their GUN - ONLY CAREs

About ONE FACT - They are ALIVE TODAY due to Their GUN.

However, CONTINUE da Posting of FACTs - I LOVE FACTs.

I Also LOVE the FACT and TRUTH of My Above Statement.

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Message 2101826 - Posted: 23 Jun 2022, 19:26:11 UTC

To post an example for how to feel safe:







Only in the USA?...

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Message 2101829 - Posted: 23 Jun 2022, 19:38:06 UTC

Gots NOTHING to Do with FEELING SAFE.

It is About STOPPING THE BADDIE/SICKO.

It is NO CARTOON when a BADDIE/SICKO is........

Don't Think So?

POST ALL One Can to SHOW how Attempting to Be Safe has Gone Wrong.

It Is GOoD to Know OutComes. Bad or GOoD.

Thank You for Your Posting.

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Message 2101831 - Posted: 23 Jun 2022, 19:57:42 UTC - in response to Message 2101829.  

POST ALL One Can to SHOW how Attempting to Be Safe has Gone Wrong.

It Is GOoD to Know OutComes. Bad or GOoD.


Already did "... 45. States with stricter gun control laws witness fewer gun-related deaths..." This also applies to countries.

Any evidence is just going to be dismissed or ignored anyway.
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Message 2101833 - Posted: 23 Jun 2022, 20:20:25 UTC

Any evidence is just going to be dismissed or ignored anyway.


When a BADDIE/SICKO is STOPPED from The OUTCOME da BADDIE/SICKO is Hoping For -by a GUN - and ANOTHER US of A Citizen Lives to See Another Moment of Life - instead of the Eternal DIRT NAP - with LOVED ONEs Looking at The Grave - Well, It is a GOoD Thang.

BADDIEs/SICKOs Don't Like Knowin' Their Target Has a GUN. Or Could have a GUN.

Seems Many Believe: BADDIEs/SICKOs GOoD. GOoD People Protecting Selves with GUN - BAD.

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Message 2101835 - Posted: 23 Jun 2022, 20:32:29 UTC - in response to Message 2101833.  
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When a BADDIE/SICKO is STOPPED from The OUTCOME da BADDIE/SICKO is Hoping For -by a GUN - and ANOTHER US of A Citizen Lives to See Another Moment of Life - instead of the Eternal DIRT NAP - with LOVED ONEs Looking at The Grave - Well, It is a GOoD Thang.


"Any evidence is just going to be dismissed or ignored anyway." The evidence that this post ignores is that overwhelmingly, if they are ever used for anything but practice, firearms are used for murders and assaults and other illegal purposes, not lawful protection from "baddies and sickos."

My issue isn't with the firearms themselves... it's the laws allowing any yahoo to buy a weapon of war that can shoot twenty schoolchildren a minute with no waiting period, no license, no training, no proof of responsible ownership, no nothing except a check that, up until that moment, they have not used such for that purpose.

It's like letting someone on their 16th birthday drive a transport truck with no license or training, and when they inevitably hamburger a busload of nuns and orphans or something equivalently horrific, boohooing that this is the price of "freedom", there's nothing we can do, and if anyone tries they're traitors and deserving of death threats.
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Message 2101842 - Posted: 23 Jun 2022, 21:54:41 UTC

Now I wonder what this moronic sicko nutter was going to get up to.

Man Tried Entering Disney Grounds With Gun, Bag of Ammo.

At least security was on the ball in this instant.
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Message 2101850 - Posted: 23 Jun 2022, 22:37:44 UTC - in response to Message 2101833.  
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... When a BADDIE/SICKO is STOPPED from The OUTCOME da BADDIE/SICKO is Hoping For -by a GUN - and ANOTHER US of A Citizen Lives to See Another Moment of Life ...

That scenario is only as seen on TV in Hollywood make believe.

Note that the supposed invulnerable "always super-alert and super-fast hero" is a too often repeated Hollywood make-believe story. Just like Superman and all the other super-heroes.

Similarly, just as too many people consider themselves to be super-drivers before their inevitable car crash...


We have Hollywood make-believe.

Back in the real world:

Is this where the USA desperately needs better schooling for everyone, and better respect and trust in their police force?


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Message 2101858 - Posted: 23 Jun 2022, 23:25:28 UTC

How much more moronically and morally stupid can people get?

Appeals court revives challenge to bump stock ban.

It looks like for some that there just arn't enough mass shootings going on.
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