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Message 2009406 - Posted: 26 Aug 2019, 19:58:43 UTC

Heroin now kills more people than guns: Drugs overdoses claimed 50,000 lives in the US last year
The number of heroin deaths rose 23% to 12,989, more than gun homicides
Fentanyl - a synthetic opiate - claimed 16,000 lives, equivalent to 44 per day
Heroin claimed the life of Hollywood actor Philip Seymour Hoffman in 2014
But the majority of those killed are ordinary people in smalltown America

By Chris Summers For Mailonline and Associated Press

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4015536/A-grim-tally-soars-More-50-000-overdose-deaths-US.html?fbclid=IwAR2qbAMN_PN6GVtVS7enWkFP0F3ONqY7mKYRiNiUqGo_78FJLEO4KOiuWas

Maybe we should ban Heroin, like they want to do with guns.......oh, right, we did that.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>100 year old lesson<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

PROHIBITION DOES NOT WORK! With Alcohol, Drugs,.......or Guns.

It's a MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEM.

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Message 2009412 - Posted: 26 Aug 2019, 20:44:48 UTC

Yes, it certain is a mental problem, in many ways.
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Message 2009416 - Posted: 26 Aug 2019, 21:08:24 UTC - in response to Message 2009406.  
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Heroin now kills more people than guns: Drugs overdoses claimed 50,000 lives in the US last year
Maybe we should ban Heroin, like they want to do with guns.......oh, right, we did that.
PROHIBITION DOES NOT WORK! With Alcohol, Drugs,.......or Guns.
It's a MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEM.

What have drug overdoses with gun laws to do?
Anyway. You say prohibition doesn't work. That's very true. Never worked and never will.
Stricter gun laws will reduce mass shootings though. Everyday "normal" shootings however not.
Mental health problem?
Those engaged in mass shootings have some serious mental issues who even kill themself after their deed.
Otherwise is not so often they have any issues, but easy access to weapons just make the bad outcome more likely to happen.

Oh. In Sweden the gun shootings really has soared the last couple of years.
Now we can read about several of them per week of them in the news but before it was only perhaps one per month.
Only today a woman in her 30s was shot dead this morning on an open street in Malmö. The woman was carrying a small child when she was shot. Shortly thereafter, a witness filmed a masked person running from the scene.
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/skane/efter-skjutningen-har-springer-en-maskerad-person-fran-platsen
Mental health problem?
No, a serious attitude problem!

Now, how does one solve bad attitude problems?
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Message 2009427 - Posted: 26 Aug 2019, 22:07:58 UTC - in response to Message 2009406.  

It's a MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEM.

Where is the evidence that the US has a bigger Mental Health problem than any other country. Or that it's mental health care is significantly worse than other countries.

There isn't any.
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Message 2009452 - Posted: 27 Aug 2019, 0:46:54 UTC - in response to Message 2009427.  

It's a MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEM.

Where is the evidence that the US has a bigger Mental Health problem than any other country. Or that it's mental health care is significantly worse than other countries.

There isn't any.

You are right, there isn't any, care that is. But care or not isn't the issue, the issue is privacy. Others can't be informed someone is guano crazy because that violates patient privacy. So the NIBC can't be informed of the crazy, so they crazy can buy weapons of war and use them as such.

Just tip of the iceberg. NRA suspects that most of their membership would not test "normal" if they were given the MMPI. So they won't allow any possibility of testing for sanity before guns are sold.

Make the MMPI part of getting the tax stamp to own a gun are be done with the problem. No tax stamp, no gun.
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Message 2009454 - Posted: 27 Aug 2019, 0:56:10 UTC

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Just tip of the iceberg. NRA suspects that most of their membership would not test "normal" if they were given the MMPI. So they won't allow any possibility of testing for sanity before guns are sold.....
Just looking at those NRA nutters' social media accounts alone would likely cancel most of them out to start with with the crap that they post.
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Message 2009468 - Posted: 27 Aug 2019, 3:17:42 UTC - in response to Message 2009452.  

It's a MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEM.

Where is the evidence that the US has a bigger Mental Health problem than any other country. Or that it's mental health care is significantly worse than other countries.

There isn't any.

You are right, there isn't any, care that is. But care or not isn't the issue, the issue is privacy. Others can't be informed someone is guano crazy because that violates patient privacy. So the NIBC can't be informed of the crazy, so they crazy can buy weapons of war and use them as such.

Just tip of the iceberg. NRA suspects that most of their membership would not test "normal" if they were given the MMPI. So they won't allow any possibility of testing for sanity before guns are sold.

Make the MMPI part of getting the tax stamp to own a gun are be done with the problem. No tax stamp, no gun.

Do you think that there is sufficient health care in most other countries?

Here in the UK a mentally ill person will be sectioned, examined by a professional mental health worker, got back onto their medication, giving a lecture and released asap. Only for it to be repeated until something serious happens.
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Message 2009471 - Posted: 27 Aug 2019, 3:39:08 UTC - in response to Message 2009468.  

It's a MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEM.

Where is the evidence that the US has a bigger Mental Health problem than any other country. Or that it's mental health care is significantly worse than other countries.

There isn't any.

You are right, there isn't any, care that is. But care or not isn't the issue, the issue is privacy. Others can't be informed someone is guano crazy because that violates patient privacy. So the NIBC can't be informed of the crazy, so they crazy can buy weapons of war and use them as such.

Just tip of the iceberg. NRA suspects that most of their membership would not test "normal" if they were given the MMPI. So they won't allow any possibility of testing for sanity before guns are sold.

Make the MMPI part of getting the tax stamp to own a gun are be done with the problem. No tax stamp, no gun.

Do you think that there is sufficient health care in most other countries?

Here in the UK a mentally ill person will be sectioned, examined by a professional mental health worker, got back onto their medication, giving a lecture and released asap. Only for it to be repeated until something serious happens.

You have NHS that pays for that. US does not have insurance, so PDQ the person is on the street and wasn't even given meds being booted out the door. Remember no insurance, no profit, no profit, no treatment.
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Message 2009515 - Posted: 27 Aug 2019, 21:24:30 UTC - in response to Message 2009406.  


PROHIBITION DOES NOT WORK! With Alcohol, Drugs,.......or Guns.
Eye you are right and that includes abortion.
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Message 2009556 - Posted: 28 Aug 2019, 4:34:57 UTC - in response to Message 2009515.  


PROHIBITION DOES NOT WORK! With Alcohol, Drugs,.......or Guns.
Eye you are right and that includes abortion.

Sarin, VX, Mustard Gas, nukes, ... . If a man made it and documented it, another man will make it again.
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Message 2010225 - Posted: 31 Aug 2019, 21:33:51 UTC

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2019/08/31/Teen-arrested-after-shooting-at-Alabama-football-game/2811567262139/?ls=3
Aug. 31 (UPI) -- A teen was arrested Saturday after a shooting at a high school football game in Alabama the night before left 10 teens injured, five of them critically.

The incident Friday night at a Ladd-Peebles Stadium in Mobile, Alabama, injured 10 people including nine people who were shot and another person who was injured, police said in a statement.

Deangelo Parnell, 17, turned himself into police Saturday morning and was charged with nine counts of attempted murder, the police statement said.

Mobile Police Chief Lawrence L. Battiste told News 5 all of the injured ranged in age from 15 to 18, and five were critically hurt.
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Message 2010229 - Posted: 31 Aug 2019, 22:03:48 UTC

Well Texas has just hit the news again. :-(
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Message 2010231 - Posted: 31 Aug 2019, 22:17:31 UTC - in response to Message 2010229.  
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Yes. According to the police, there may be two shooters traveling in separate vehicles. Residents are encouraged to stay indoors.
So where is the well regulated militia?
Midland Police Update * We believe there are two shooters in two separate vehicles. One suspect is believed to be at the Cinergy in Midland and the other is believed to be driving on Loop 250 in Midland. The two vehicles in question are: gold/white small Toyota truck and a USPS Postal Van. Please stay away from these areas and stay indoors.
There are reports of an active shooter at the Home Depot in Odessa. For the safety of the public and law enforcement please stay away from the area and stay in your homes. We will update with more information as soon as possible.
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Message 2010234 - Posted: 31 Aug 2019, 22:20:28 UTC - in response to Message 2010231.  
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Midland Police: Suspect taken into custody at Cinergy of Midland, 20 people hurt in active shooting.
https://www.cbs7.com/content/news/Authorities-responding-to-reports-of-active-shooter-in-Odessa-558964771.html
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Message 2010247 - Posted: 1 Sep 2019, 0:06:05 UTC

Texas shootings: Random gun attacks leave five dead
A mass random shooting in the US state of Texas has left at least five people dead and many more injured, police say.
At least one gunman shot randomly at people while driving round the western cities of Odessa and Midland on Saturday afternoon.
Police now say a suspect - a white male - has been shot and killed, but reports of other suspects at large are being investigated.
No motive had yet been established for the incident.
A police spokesman confirmed five people had been killed and at least 16 injured. Police officers were among the victims, he told reporters
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Message 2010299 - Posted: 1 Sep 2019, 6:13:10 UTC

https://apnews.com/e765453e0fc34cbbb75311763d4b3709
MIDLAND, Texas (AP) — At least five people are dead in West Texas after a man stopped by state troopers for failing to signal a left turn opened fire and fled, shooting more than 20 people as he drove before being killed by officers outside a movie theater, authorities said.

Bit wild reaction to a traffic ticket. Sovereign Citizen?
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/sovereign-citizens-movement
Sovereign citizens believe that they — not judges, juries, law enforcement or elected officials — get to decide which laws to obey and which to ignore, and they don't think they should have to pay taxes. Sovereigns are clogging up the courts with indecipherable filings and when cornered, many of them lash out in rage, frustration and, in the most extreme cases, acts of deadly violence, usually directed against government officials. In May 2010, for example, a father-son team of sovereigns murdered two police officers with an assault rifle when they were pulled over on the interstate while traveling through West Memphis, Ark.
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Message 2010362 - Posted: 1 Sep 2019, 18:45:01 UTC - in response to Message 2010247.  

Just goes to show "You can't fix stupid"
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Message 2010366 - Posted: 1 Sep 2019, 18:58:05 UTC - in response to Message 2006497.  

When the Constitution was written, there were 13 states with a population of 4 million, therefore it was fit for purpose. The weaponry in use were flintlock pistols & muskets, with the musket being used by a "skilled" person, an effective rate of 3 rounds a minute could be achieved.


It was also the same weapon the military had.
The purpose was to protect against a Government's Overreach as well one's self.
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Message 2010392 - Posted: 1 Sep 2019, 21:58:23 UTC

‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

“It’s a shame, but what can we do? There really wasn’t anything that was going to keep this individual from snapping and killing a lot of people if that’s what they really wanted.”

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