As this has happened to a School resource officer just days after Trump's idea of arming school teachers. The idea needs to be rejected asap because it could happen to a teacher. I don't want to imagine the possible result.

School resource officer accidentally discharges sidearm at Va. school

Well that didn't take long, Gun-trained teacher accidentally discharges firearm in Calif. classroom, injuring student

edit] And here are a few more in the recent past.
a. Utah Teacher Shoots Herself In Leg With Concealed Weapon
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/11/teacher-shoots-self-concealed-weapon_n_5807826.html

b. Idaho State University teacher accidentally shoots self in class
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/idaho-state-university-teacher-accidentally-shoots-self-in-class/

c. Arkansas Advocate for Guns In Schools Accidentally Shoots a Teacher
https://www.politicususa.com/2013/08/29/arkansas-advocate-guns-schools-accidentally-shoots-teacher.html

d. Teacher accidentally fires gun at Technology Center of DuPage
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20141003/news/141009335/

e. Student fires officer's holstered gun at Minnesota school
https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/education/article/Student-fires-officer-s-holstered-gun-at-12555114.php

f. Calif. elementary student fires police gun, 3 hurt
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/calif-elementary-student-fires-police-gun-3-hurt/

g. Teacher barricades himself in class, fires gun
https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/nation/2018/03/01/teacher-barricades-himself-class-fires-gun/110954246/

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dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries.

noun: bigotry; plural noun: bigotries
intolerance towards those who hold different opinions from oneself.

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You're funny even though you never meant to be.
Don't you think that Trump fits into all 3 categories as well as many 2nd amendment fanatics?

Well that didn't take long, Gun-trained teacher accidentally discharges firearm in Calif. classroom, injuring student

edit] And here are a few more in the recent past.
a. Utah Teacher Shoots Herself In Leg With Concealed Weapon
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/11/teacher-shoots-self-concealed-weapon_n_5807826.html

b. Idaho State University teacher accidentally shoots self in class
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/idaho-state-university-teacher-accidentally-shoots-self-in-class/

c. Arkansas Advocate for Guns In Schools Accidentally Shoots a Teacher
https://www.politicususa.com/2013/08/29/arkansas-advocate-guns-schools-accidentally-shoots-teacher.html

d. Teacher accidentally fires gun at Technology Center of DuPage
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20141003/news/141009335/

e. Student fires officer's holstered gun at Minnesota school
https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/education/article/Student-fires-officer-s-holstered-gun-at-12555114.php

f. Calif. elementary student fires police gun, 3 hurt
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/calif-elementary-student-fires-police-gun-3-hurt/

g. Teacher barricades himself in class, fires gun
https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/nation/2018/03/01/teacher-barricades-himself-class-fires-gun/110954246/

Let us look at those:

Initial: Teacher involved is a police officer. The student injured was NOT shot, but injured by debris falling from the ceiling.

a: Teacher legally had a concealed handgun, which accidentally went off as she went to the restroom, and she legally had it at the school... By law she was not allowed to take it off (even with it locked up) while at the school. The teacher was the only one injured. No laws violated.

b: University instructor had a legal concealed handgun legally on campus. It went off accidentally in his pocket during his chem lab class he was instructing. Instructor was only person injured and they were treated and released from a medical clinic. No laws violated.

c: An Arkansas State Senator accidentally shoots a teacher in an active shooter training class he was invited to... With a handgun loaded with rubber bullets. This one is not recent. It happened at some point prior to August 28, 2013.

d: The instructor in question was a retired FBI agent. He didn't have the firearm legally on campus and may therefore be in some deep dookie.

e: A police officer attending an assembly at the school in question was seated. A young student stuck his fingers into the police officer's holster. The young student's fingers made it past the holster's trigger guard, and caused the firearm to discharge. The police officer was careless, and might be in some trouble.

f: The police officers were careless and failed to remove the firearm (an AR-15) from its mount on that police motorcycle Students fark with it with predictable results.

g: Teacher was a crazy. Laws broken left, right, and center.

Dalton police say Jesse Randal Davidson, 53, a social studies teacher and a play-by-play football announcer at the school, fired the shot. During his planning period around 11 a.m., police said Davidson locked himself in the classroom.

“When the principal put a key in the door to try to unlock the classroom, Mr. Davidson apparently fired a shot from a handgun to an exterior window of the classroom. It doesn't appear it was aimed at anybody,” Bruce Frazier, with the Dalton Police Department, said.

Davidson has been charged with aggravated assault, carrying a weapon on school grounds, terroristic threats, reckless conduct, possession of a firearm during the commission of a crime and disrupting a public school.

JESSE DAVIDSON'S PAST:

Records show in March 2016, he went to Dalton police to confess he killed someone.

Davidson told detectives that two friends killed a woman on his behalf because he had an online affair with her.

Police were not able to verify the story.

Davidson told them he was taking medications for depression.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/dalton-high-school-on-lockdown-police-responding-to-shots-fired-call/708623182

Teacher was nuts. Teacher did not have the gun at school legally. Teacher shouldn't have even have HAD the gun. This one is in deep dookie.

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Ok, out of the 8 total incidents you posted, we have 3 police officers with guns on campus, 1 retired FBI agent with a gun on campus (thats half of them), 1 elected politician accidentally shoots a teacher (with a gun loaded with rubber bullets in a training class, not at a school), 2 teachers with valid permits legally having a gun on their person at school accidentally discharging injuring only themselves), and ONE nutjob teacher (that should not have had a firearm of any sort AT ALL) with a handgun at school.

What point were you trying to make with this list?

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#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.

Ok, out of the 8 total incidents you posted, we have 3 police officers with guns on campus, 1 retired FBI agent with a gun on campus (thats half of them), 1 elected politician accidentally shoots a teacher (with a gun loaded with rubber bullets in a training class, not at a school), 2 teachers with valid permits legally having a gun on their person at school accidentally discharging injuring only themselves), and ONE nutjob teacher (that should not have had a firearm of any sort AT ALL) with a handgun at school.

What point were you trying to make with this list?

That guns are inherently dangerous even in the hands of well trained people. :-)

I don't think there is a realistic solution if the 2nd Amendment is left alone. Compromise and let people currently legally holding guns to keep them, but stop selling them?

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Where are the truly realistic solutions?

There are none because too many feel the right to own a gun is more important than the collateral damage they cause.

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Well, there you go, then. I don't see a fix to this, under current Constitutional rights.

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The mind is a weird and mysterious place

Well, there you go, then. I don't see a fix to this, under current Constitutional rights.

It is there. It is obvious. But the NRA has deflected it into a you must change the second discussion. This country already had a ten year long ban on semiautomatic rifles. It wasn't struck down as being against the second. This country can have that ban again. This country can define semiautomatic the same as a machine gun and require a tax stamp. All it takes is realizing the second doesn't need to be changed at all. Just a regular law.

Ok, out of the 8 total incidents you posted, we have 3 police officers with guns on campus, 1 retired FBI agent with a gun on campus (thats half of them), 1 elected politician accidentally shoots a teacher (with a gun loaded with rubber bullets in a training class, not at a school), 2 teachers with valid permits legally having a gun on their person at school accidentally discharging injuring only themselves), and ONE nutjob teacher (that should not have had a firearm of any sort AT ALL) with a handgun at school.

What point were you trying to make with this list?

That guns are inherently dangerous even in the hands of well trained people. :-)

Of course they are... And so are MANY other tools. You gonna ban all of those tools? Vehicles, knives of various sorts, axes, hammers, power tools such as saws and chainsaws, baseball bats, chains, hockey sticks, various household chemicals, etc. etc. etc... ??

Listen, the problem is NOT the tool. The problem IS the people using them.

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#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.

What point were you trying to make with this list?

That if you put weapons in schools you are always going to have incidents with those weapons. Which will put children and other teachers at risk, which is the opposite of what these measures are trying stop.

Statistically, these attacks are rare. Putting more guns in schools is not the answer. What is needed are methods of detecting, young people who are deeply depressed, unable to handle their emotions, sadness and anger, and that start acting in odd ways. And then getting them to the right people who can help these confused teens through their problems.

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The names of people who have studied school shootings you need to look for are O’Toole and Randazzo.

Major that's a straw man argument, a mad man with a knife or a chainsaw is not likely to create dozens of victims at a time. It is relatively easy with semiautomatic weapons and large capacity magazines.

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The same old bullshyte answer. WHY do individuals really want SAW's? Using defence as an argument is not valid. I've seen many on here state that they want to defend themselves from too much government restrictions. If you all got SAW's to defend against that happening, WHAT will defend you against government snipers & mortar teams? Your SAW's?

As with everything in life either compromise has to be used or a line drawn. Where SAW's are concerned that line has already been crossed & too many are too dumb to realise it.

As Gary has proven, there was a ban in place without any change to your "glorious 2nd" so why can't it be re-applied is the question that could shut down all arguments regarding SAW's.

Another point.
If you arm teachers or other school employees and there is an incident. When police arrive and storm the building will they be able to recognize that the teacher with a gun is not their target.

I'll put this in as an example of police failure to identify "friends"
A black off-duty cop tried to help stop a crime. Another officer shot him.

Yes. We don't let nincompoops handle dangerous things. So why is the NRA advocating that for schools?

As WK's list shows, even highly trained professionals can't keep them under control all the time. But why introduce something so dangerous to an environment full of curious ignorant children who will get a hold of it and do stupid things faster than a single adult can react to?

You child proof a house before a little one is let loose. Why does the NRA advocate the opposite to a classroom?

The NRA is just used as a boogeyman excuse.

You've stated that several times, so rather than spout off, prove it!

Yawn.

The NRA is just used as a boogeyman excuse.

You've stated that several times, so rather than spout off, prove it!

Sirius B... Your "Spout off" personal attack is all that you do.

However, to educate you regarding money, power and politics in the USA.

NRA 2016 Political Contributions:

Total: $1,085,100

Democrats: $10,500

Republicans: $1,071,100

Not even in the top 50 of organizations.

Not even in the top 27 of Individual contributors.

https://www.opensecrets.org/overview/topindivs.php

Yes, the NRA is used as a boogeyman.

You forgot the $30 million investment in Donald Trump’s presidential campaign as well as at least $20 million more to help GOP Senate candidates

It's all listed https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4210859-8-16-2017-AuditFYEnding2016.html