Care to explain the difference between your ruling class & our so called masters?

I hadn't realised that you believe in social chaos but I guess it does in someway explain American society.

Government/Ruling Class control is not the American Culture nor its System of Government.

We, unlike you, understand what the Ruling Class really is and what they really want.

Enjoy your Masters.

Enjoy your system where the 0.01% are the actual rulers.

Another nutter with a gun opens fire, takes hostages at California veterans home in a stand off with police.

Oh dear. :-(

4 dead :-(
NRA sues Florida

But at least it stops the Ruling Class, which may be your enemy, from controlling you.

What a load of hogwash. You obviously have no understanding of how the US works and the control the 0.01%ers have over the rest of the population. And it's only got worse over the last 20 years.

Ruling classes?
If talking about the US, To Have and Have Not comes to mind...

I'm just amazed that it can still be believed that the U.S. has some exceptional freedom that this separation of power somehow guarantees, when black people lived in chains for three centuries and as second or third-class citizens for another century after that, when native Americans were massacred and forced onto reservations, when over a hundred thousand law-abiding citizens were stripped of their property and imprisoned in internment camps merely for having Japanese ancestry, when it still has the highest incarceration rate of any nation on Earth (oh, second to the Seychelles, a tiny archipelago with a population of about a hundred thousand.)

Neither guns nor the Constitution seemed to work for them as a bulwark against governmental tyranny, did they? Then again, I'm merely a foreigner, so cannot be expected to comprehend such intricacies.

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Picking on one, is just an exercise in believing ones own history, or the history of the people who are their ancestors. Isn't the same.

For once you got that 100% Right :-)

You have consistently shown that every time you state "non-American" :-)

Another nutter with a gun opens fire, takes hostages at California veterans home in a stand off with police.

Oh dear. :-(

Yes a nutter. So why wasn't he on a list? That isn't gun control law failure, that is medical privacy law failure!

The day we see an intelligent discussion on an important subject will be the day that the politics board ceases to function as 99.5% here will have suffered heart attacks from the shock :-)

The definition of Intelligence is a matter of opinion.

The definition of Intelligence is a matter of opinion.

Tell the NRA that :-)

The definition of Intelligence is a matter of opinion.

Tell the NRA that :-)

LOL
I think I need a heavy duty weapon to do that.
The 2'nd amendment rule over the 1'st amendment in the US.

Another nutter with a gun opens fire, takes hostages at California veterans home in a stand off with police.

Oh dear. :-(

Yes a nutter. So why wasn't he on a list? That isn't gun control law failure, that is medical privacy law failure!

Yes. The 3 victims were some of the staff at The Pathway Home (a non-profit located at that veteran's home in Yountville, California that treated post-9/11 veterans with PTSD, etc.). The gunman was a client there up until about 2 weeks ago.

So, not only was there a problem with the medical privacy laws in this case, but it was the Federal Government that MADE him 'crazy'.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/10/us/california-veterans-home-shooting/index.html

http://thepathwayhome.org/history/

Quite a number of people will develop a mental illness at some point during their lives. These range from very mild and temporary to severe and permanent. Where do you draw the line? How do you balance the rights of these people with the rights of the rest of us? Trying to balance the rights of those with mental... conditions... with the rest of us is why, for instance, mental health problems are 'private' along with ALL other health related information. How do we handle this without depriving the ill of ALL their rights (and I am not talking just about gun rights here, but ALL of them)?

It is a tough question. There is no answer that will respect ALL of everyone's rights.

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https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.

And what about the "Rights" of all those dead kids?

Oh dear. :-(

bleet, bleet...

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And what about the "Rights" of all those dead kids?

Oh dear. :-(

They are dead they no longer have rights, problem solved NRA style.

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Another nutter with a gun opens fire, takes hostages at California veterans home in a stand off with police.

Oh dear. :-(

Yes a nutter. So why wasn't he on a list? That isn't gun control law failure, that is medical privacy law failure!

Yes. The 3 victims were some of the staff at The Pathway Home (a non-profit located at that veteran's home in Yountville, California that treated post-9/11 veterans with PTSD, etc.). The gunman was a client there up until about 2 weeks ago.

So, not only was there a problem with the medical privacy laws in this case, but it was the Federal Government that MADE him 'crazy'.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/10/us/california-veterans-home-shooting/index.html

http://thepathwayhome.org/history/

Quite a number of people will develop a mental illness at some point during their lives. These range from very mild and temporary to severe and permanent. Where do you draw the line? How do you balance the rights of these people with the rights of the rest of us? Trying to balance the rights of those with mental... conditions... with the rest of us is why, for instance, mental health problems are 'private' along with ALL other health related information. How do we handle this without depriving the ill of ALL their rights (and I am not talking just about gun rights here, but ALL of them)?

It is a tough question. There is no answer that will respect ALL of everyone's rights.

Rights can be balanced as can privacy. For a yes/no answer on a can buy a gun list, the dealer doesn't have to be told anything about why. He just gives the person who got a no a phone number to call for more information and a transaction number. The entire appeal process can be handled closed door. If you don't remember Obama Care made your medical records online so any health care person can look them up. Of course they better have a reason because requests are logged. PS it actually works too. Dr. gave me a scrip for a med and I'd had a lab a hair out of normal, pharmacy reduced the scrip from 30 days to 15, because that scrip might have been affecting the lab result. Dr. knew it wasn't because they had already found the cause. Just so you all know your med records are already shared all over.

Should the Feds snoop on your med records? Well if you are a pilot they do. If you are a train driver, they do. If you are a trucker they do. So should they if you want to buy a gun? Something has to be done to restrict nutters from getting piles of guns. Same as boozers, that doesn't mix well with guns. The seller doesn't need to know why, just no sale.

As to what level of mental illness, lots of guys go out an buy a sports car for their mid-life crises. Should you go out a buy guns for you mid-life crises? Some do.

If you don't understand why semiautomatic assault rifles need to be banned, then read this
After the Las Vegas shooting massacre, survival can be excruciating

If you don't understand why semiautomatic assault rifles need to be banned, then read this
After the Las Vegas shooting massacre, survival can be excruciating

I don't.
In order to ban a weapon type you have define what type of weapon it is.
Weapon laws in all countries need that definition.
There are no such things like semiautomatic assault rifles.
There are semiautomatic rifles and there are automatic rifles aka assault rifles.
Semiautomatic rifles have existed for years and are legal in most countries.
Automatic rifles have existed for years and are banned in most countries.

Those are red herrings, the issue is not the type of weapon but the magazine size. All the other factors pale compared to that.

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