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Message 1918895 - Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 2:12:06 UTC - in response to Message 1918892.  

I have no interest in getting a gun, and that won't change, either.
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Message 1918897 - Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 2:21:38 UTC
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Chicken Stacker has one thing right. They knew this mo-fo was insane. Yet the tRumpers and the NRA gave him a gun.
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Message 1918904 - Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 3:05:11 UTC - in response to Message 1918899.  

Good luck with the 2nd Amendment.

Yep, the right to randomly shoot people with highly efficient weapons will remain.
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Message 1918908 - Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 3:47:17 UTC

I don't care where the fault is to be honest just that something drastic needs to be done, How many more massacres will it take to
make people/governments to realize this needs to stop!
Take a look at the guns and knives this person has, and only a kid!
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Message 1918922 - Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 5:09:18 UTC - in response to Message 1918908.  

I don't care where the fault is to be honest just that something drastic needs to be done, How many more massacres will it take to
make people/governments to realize this needs to stop!
Take a look at the guns and knives this person has, and only a kid!

They knew he was unstable, but that didn't get him on a database. That is the fault. Fix that and it will drop to European levels.
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Message 1918930 - Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 5:49:25 UTC - in response to Message 1918922.  

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They knew he was unstable, but that didn't get him on a database. That is the fault. Fix that and it will drop to European levels.

Maybe, but throwing more guns at the problem (as the NRA recommend) certainly isn't helping at all and in fact is just making the situation worse by the day.

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Message 1918932 - Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 5:50:01 UTC

The problem is gun stores/shops are like sweet shops over there anyone can buy a gun,
sadly the restrictions on age and class of weapon don't seem to exist, I'm thankful to our Prime Minister at the time
of the Port Arthur massacre few years ago banning gun ownership, only the people in forces or security and farmers ( Stock Protection ) should have them..
If you feel the need to fire a gun go to a local gun club (Range)..
Can't have the Wild West mentality of centuries ago in today's society, it just don't work..

Just my thoughts on it..
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Message 1918963 - Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 9:20:27 UTC - in response to Message 1918932.  
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Can't have the Wild West mentality of centuries ago in today's society, it just don't work..

We do and it works the way it is supposed to, very badly.
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Message 1918965 - Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 9:31:25 UTC - in response to Message 1918895.  

I have no interest in getting a gun, and that won't change, either.


I have guns, but then we have proper licensing, and I'm unusual in having guns, the difference is that the Police have properly vetted my background down to my friends, family, finances, mental health, military and civilian careers, qualifications, experience, plus I have no criminal record, no driving offences (ever), no fines, no debts other than a mortgage for the house, a credit score of 999, and and have provided a legal need to possess firearms.

It takes up to a year to apply for a Firearms or Shotgun Certificate, and involves a full Police Investigation by Special Branch Officers, and a 3 hour Police Interview in your Home, and you can't buy a Gun unless you have the Certificate issued by the Police.

When you do buy or sell a gun, you have to inform the Police within seven days or get five years in Prison, the Police have to know where you securely store the gun and will inspect the security, and need full details of the gun, including make, model, calibre, and serial number, so that the details are placed on the National Firearms Licensing Database, accessible by any Police via the Police National Computer System.

So the Police know who has what, why, and where its stored, and any qualifications the authorised person might have, they might call me out as a Qualified Deer Stalker in an Emergency to deal with an injured Deer in an Road Traffic Collision. They even have my home and mobile numbers, and email address. I have nothing to hide.

The local Police now regard me as a Trusted Person, with sporting equipment, and land management tools, that could be used as lethal weapons. In total, I own 11 Firearms and 2 Shotguns.

Everyone that possesses guns legally in the UK has been through the above system, and the result is we don't shoot anyone, the Police aren't routinely armed, and are friendly, so if they stop you for a traffic offence you aren't going to die and you are more than likely not even going to get a ticket, they will likely let you off with a warning to fix your car fault or modify your driving, and nobody has to fear that someone will jump out and shoot them, and children don't go into schools with guns and shoot other children.

Something to think about.
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Message 1918967 - Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 9:44:07 UTC - in response to Message 1918904.  

Good luck with the 2nd Amendment.

Yep, the right to randomly shoot people with highly efficient weapons will remain.


I had a lengthy diatribe when I made virtually the same observation, you lucky sod.
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Message 1918984 - Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 11:29:35 UTC - in response to Message 1918904.  

Good luck with the 2nd Amendment.

Yep, the right to randomly shoot people with highly efficient weapons will remain.

"Randomly shoot people"? Are you a transplant from the British Isles? I would expect that kind of comment from across the Atlantic, not from a fellow countryman.

Law abiding citizens do not randomly shoot people.

The bad guys with illegally owned guns randomly shoot people. And, suffice to say, the gun doesn't do the shooting either, the trigger person does.

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Message 1918992 - Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 13:21:25 UTC

Siran you just opened a can of warms by attacking people from over seas, problem lays in your own country on slack gun laws
and anyone and everyone can buy guns like going to the sweet shop, even law abiding people snap for what ever reason,
you have an Amendment that is way out of date and needs to be altered for today's times unless you still lasso cars and hunt Indians..
I'm so glad I live in Australia..Thank you John Howard (former Prime Minister) for banning guns here in Australia after Port Arthur massacre..
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Message 1918995 - Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 13:55:08 UTC
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I'll just say I agree with 'This happens nowhere else' Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut, home to Sandy Hook Elementary School
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Message 1918996 - Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 14:05:41 UTC - in response to Message 1918995.  

I'll just say I agree with 'This happens nowhere else' Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut, home to Sandy Hook Elementary School


Every time there's another mass shooting, The Onion updates their story ‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

PARKLAND, FL—In the hours following a violent rampage in Florida in which a lone attacker killed 17 individuals and seriously injured over a dozen others, citizens living in the only country where this kind of mass killing routinely occurs reportedly concluded Wednesday that there was no way to prevent the massacre from taking place. “This was a terrible tragedy, but sometimes these things just happen and there’s nothing anyone can do to stop them,” said Indiana resident Harold Turner, echoing sentiments expressed by tens of millions of individuals who reside in a nation where over half of the world’s deadliest mass shootings have occurred in the past 50 years and whose citizens are 20 times more likely to die of gun violence than those of other developed nations. “It’s a shame, but what can we do? There really wasn’t anything that was going to keep this individual from snapping and killing a lot of people if that’s what they really wanted.” At press time, residents of the only economically advanced nation in the world where roughly two mass shootings have occurred every month for the past eight years were referring to themselves and their situation as “helpless.”

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Message 1918998 - Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 14:09:20 UTC - in response to Message 1918996.  
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I was just looking for the Stats outside of the US, I found this tweet from
Jeff Greenfield, Verified account, @greenfield64
30 Years political analyst, ABC, CNN, CBS;

In the rest of the world, there have been 18 school shootings in the last twenty years. In the U.S., there have been 18 school shootings since January 1--35 days.
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Message 1918999 - Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 14:11:27 UTC - in response to Message 1918992.  

Siran you just opened a can of warms by attacking people from over seas, problem lays in your own country on slack gun laws
and anyone and everyone can buy guns like going to the sweet shop, even law abiding people snap for what ever reason,
you have an Amendment that is way out of date and needs to be altered for today's times unless you still lasso cars and hunt Indians..
I'm so glad I live in Australia..Thank you John Howard (former Prime Minister) for banning guns here in Australia after Port Arthur massacre..


Now now... It is NOT the gun laws that are 'slack'... It is 'Law Enforcement' that is slack. The punk that is alleged to have done this shooting was reported to the FBI about 6 months ago as threatening to shoot up a school... In writing...

https://www.buzzfeed.com/briannasacks/the-fbi-was-warned-about-a-school-shooting-threat-from?utm_term=.vmr3o5m51o#.ui00GoAoMG

So, who am I going to trust to defend my self and my family?

The 'Keystone Cops' that can take anywhere from 5 minutes to an hour to arrive?

Or something by Colt, Remington, or Springfield Armory that I can have in my hand before the 911 emergency dispatcher answers the phone?
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
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Message 1919002 - Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 14:21:42 UTC - in response to Message 1918999.  

You've got it the wrong way round again.
If the US would just comes in line with the rest of the world, on gun control, you wouldn't feel the need to defend yourself.
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Message 1919012 - Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 14:46:44 UTC - in response to Message 1918999.  

MK they aren't that keystone, they are after all government, so they must justify themselves, so they chase granny home after she takes her savings out of the bank, test the money for drug residue and seize it. They make money for the government. Processing paperwork doesn't make money. It's the f'in war on drugs that is the problem. Has taught the people, including cops, to have no respect.
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Message 1919018 - Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 15:30:19 UTC - in response to Message 1918992.  

Siran you just opened a can of warms by attacking people from over seas, problem lays in your own country on slack gun laws
and anyone and everyone can buy guns like going to the sweet shop, even law abiding people snap for what ever reason,
you have an Amendment that is way out of date and needs to be altered for today's times unless you still lasso cars and hunt Indians..
I'm so glad I live in Australia..Thank you John Howard (former Prime Minister) for banning guns here in Australia after Port Arthur massacre..

Since when is banning guns going to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and idiots that go on shooting sprees? Do you think they will "obey" the law?

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Message 1919019 - Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 15:34:00 UTC - in response to Message 1919002.  

You've got it the wrong way round again.
If the US would just comes in line with the rest of the world, on gun control, you wouldn't feel the need to defend yourself.

You're living in a fantasy world...
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