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Gordon Lowe Send message Joined: 5 Nov 00 Posts: 12094 Credit: 6,317,865 RAC: 0 |
I have no interest in getting a gun, and that won't change, either. The mind is a weird and mysterious place |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Chicken Stacker has one thing right. They knew this mo-fo was insane. Yet the tRumpers and the NRA gave him a gun. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11360 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Good luck with the 2nd Amendment. Yep, the right to randomly shoot people with highly efficient weapons will remain. |
Stargate (SA) Send message Joined: 4 Mar 10 Posts: 1854 Credit: 2,258,721 RAC: 0 |
I don't care where the fault is to be honest just that something drastic needs to be done, How many more massacres will it take to make people/governments to realize this needs to stop! Take a look at the guns and knives this person has, and only a kid! |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
I don't care where the fault is to be honest just that something drastic needs to be done, How many more massacres will it take to They knew he was unstable, but that didn't get him on a database. That is the fault. Fix that and it will drop to European levels. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
... Maybe, but throwing more guns at the problem (as the NRA recommend) certainly isn't helping at all and in fact is just making the situation worse by the day. Cheers. |
Stargate (SA) Send message Joined: 4 Mar 10 Posts: 1854 Credit: 2,258,721 RAC: 0 |
The problem is gun stores/shops are like sweet shops over there anyone can buy a gun, sadly the restrictions on age and class of weapon don't seem to exist, I'm thankful to our Prime Minister at the time of the Port Arthur massacre few years ago banning gun ownership, only the people in forces or security and farmers ( Stock Protection ) should have them.. If you feel the need to fire a gun go to a local gun club (Range).. Can't have the Wild West mentality of centuries ago in today's society, it just don't work.. Just my thoughts on it.. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11360 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Can't have the Wild West mentality of centuries ago in today's society, it just don't work.. We do and it works the way it is supposed to, very badly. |
M5WJF Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 147 Credit: 6,484,657 RAC: 6 |
I have no interest in getting a gun, and that won't change, either. I have guns, but then we have proper licensing, and I'm unusual in having guns, the difference is that the Police have properly vetted my background down to my friends, family, finances, mental health, military and civilian careers, qualifications, experience, plus I have no criminal record, no driving offences (ever), no fines, no debts other than a mortgage for the house, a credit score of 999, and and have provided a legal need to possess firearms. It takes up to a year to apply for a Firearms or Shotgun Certificate, and involves a full Police Investigation by Special Branch Officers, and a 3 hour Police Interview in your Home, and you can't buy a Gun unless you have the Certificate issued by the Police. When you do buy or sell a gun, you have to inform the Police within seven days or get five years in Prison, the Police have to know where you securely store the gun and will inspect the security, and need full details of the gun, including make, model, calibre, and serial number, so that the details are placed on the National Firearms Licensing Database, accessible by any Police via the Police National Computer System. So the Police know who has what, why, and where its stored, and any qualifications the authorised person might have, they might call me out as a Qualified Deer Stalker in an Emergency to deal with an injured Deer in an Road Traffic Collision. They even have my home and mobile numbers, and email address. I have nothing to hide. The local Police now regard me as a Trusted Person, with sporting equipment, and land management tools, that could be used as lethal weapons. In total, I own 11 Firearms and 2 Shotguns. Everyone that possesses guns legally in the UK has been through the above system, and the result is we don't shoot anyone, the Police aren't routinely armed, and are friendly, so if they stop you for a traffic offence you aren't going to die and you are more than likely not even going to get a ticket, they will likely let you off with a warning to fix your car fault or modify your driving, and nobody has to fear that someone will jump out and shoot them, and children don't go into schools with guns and shoot other children. Something to think about. |
M5WJF Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 147 Credit: 6,484,657 RAC: 6 |
Good luck with the 2nd Amendment. I had a lengthy diatribe when I made virtually the same observation, you lucky sod. |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
Good luck with the 2nd Amendment. "Randomly shoot people"? Are you a transplant from the British Isles? I would expect that kind of comment from across the Atlantic, not from a fellow countryman. Law abiding citizens do not randomly shoot people. The bad guys with illegally owned guns randomly shoot people. And, suffice to say, the gun doesn't do the shooting either, the trigger person does. Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Stargate (SA) Send message Joined: 4 Mar 10 Posts: 1854 Credit: 2,258,721 RAC: 0 |
Siran you just opened a can of warms by attacking people from over seas, problem lays in your own country on slack gun laws and anyone and everyone can buy guns like going to the sweet shop, even law abiding people snap for what ever reason, you have an Amendment that is way out of date and needs to be altered for today's times unless you still lasso cars and hunt Indians.. I'm so glad I live in Australia..Thank you John Howard (former Prime Minister) for banning guns here in Australia after Port Arthur massacre.. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19013 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
I'll just say I agree with 'This happens nowhere else' Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut, home to Sandy Hook Elementary School |
Mr. Kevvy Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3776 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 |
I'll just say I agree with 'This happens nowhere else' Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut, home to Sandy Hook Elementary School Every time there's another mass shooting, The Onion updates their story ‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens PARKLAND, FL—In the hours following a violent rampage in Florida in which a lone attacker killed 17 individuals and seriously injured over a dozen others, citizens living in the only country where this kind of mass killing routinely occurs reportedly concluded Wednesday that there was no way to prevent the massacre from taking place. “This was a terrible tragedy, but sometimes these things just happen and there’s nothing anyone can do to stop them,†said Indiana resident Harold Turner, echoing sentiments expressed by tens of millions of individuals who reside in a nation where over half of the world’s deadliest mass shootings have occurred in the past 50 years and whose citizens are 20 times more likely to die of gun violence than those of other developed nations. “It’s a shame, but what can we do? There really wasn’t anything that was going to keep this individual from snapping and killing a lot of people if that’s what they really wanted.†At press time, residents of the only economically advanced nation in the world where roughly two mass shootings have occurred every month for the past eight years were referring to themselves and their situation as “helpless.†|
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19013 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
I was just looking for the Stats outside of the US, I found this tweet from Jeff Greenfield, Verified account, @greenfield64 30 Years political analyst, ABC, CNN, CBS; In the rest of the world, there have been 18 school shootings in the last twenty years. In the U.S., there have been 18 school shootings since January 1--35 days. |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
Siran you just opened a can of warms by attacking people from over seas, problem lays in your own country on slack gun laws Now now... It is NOT the gun laws that are 'slack'... It is 'Law Enforcement' that is slack. The punk that is alleged to have done this shooting was reported to the FBI about 6 months ago as threatening to shoot up a school... In writing... https://www.buzzfeed.com/briannasacks/the-fbi-was-warned-about-a-school-shooting-threat-from?utm_term=.vmr3o5m51o#.ui00GoAoMG So, who am I going to trust to defend my self and my family? The 'Keystone Cops' that can take anywhere from 5 minutes to an hour to arrive? Or something by Colt, Remington, or Springfield Armory that I can have in my hand before the 911 emergency dispatcher answers the phone? https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19013 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
You've got it the wrong way round again. If the US would just comes in line with the rest of the world, on gun control, you wouldn't feel the need to defend yourself. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
MK they aren't that keystone, they are after all government, so they must justify themselves, so they chase granny home after she takes her savings out of the bank, test the money for drug residue and seize it. They make money for the government. Processing paperwork doesn't make money. It's the f'in war on drugs that is the problem. Has taught the people, including cops, to have no respect. |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
Siran you just opened a can of warms by attacking people from over seas, problem lays in your own country on slack gun laws Since when is banning guns going to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and idiots that go on shooting sprees? Do you think they will "obey" the law? Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
You've got it the wrong way round again. You're living in a fantasy world... CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
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