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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Any U.S. citizen that gets their hands on a automatic long gun is in violation of federal and/or state law.They are not banned. Stop spreading that lie. That is individual ownership. https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/form/form-4-application-tax-paid-transfer-and-registration-firearm-atf-form-53204/download As a former police officer you should know that. |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
Greetings, Ok, perhaps what I was saying about automatic weapons was slightly misleading. If one has some major money, the time and their background is squeaky clean, then yes, one can own automatic weapon(s). But, they are bridled with Federal regulations for the time they own said weapon(s). http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/02/actual-federal-laws-regulating-machine-guns-u-s/ tells it like it is with FACTS and not emotions. The point I was trying to make was that if Joe NoGood-Citizen get's his hands on a automatic weapon without going through the Federal hoops to own it, the gun is illegal, even if manufactured before 1986, and Joe NoGood-Citizen is in violation of Federal and state laws. Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19012 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
At what point up the weapons ladder do you stop, machine gun, rpg, mortar, weapons that can be mounted on a F150 truck or equivalent? |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
At what point up the weapons ladder do you stop, machine gun, rpg, mortar, weapons that can be mounted on a F150 truck or equivalent? Which firearms are regulated under the NFA? https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/which-firearms-are-regulated-under-nfa Pretty much your entire list is (assuming all other qualifications are met) available to be privately owned by people in the USA. However they are NOT very common. The other qualifications include, but are not limited to, people that have squeaky-clean criminal records AND are pretty rich AND have the approval of the County Sheriff in which they live (or OTHER chief law enforcement officer for said jurisdiction). Note: there are quite a number of Sheriffs that oppose this and do not grant approval on ANY private citizen in their jurisdictions. A number of States also restrict NFA weapons. https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
FYI MK, the requirement the CLEO approve is gone, he just has to be notified. Of course he can object but now he has to do so because the person isn't clean. WK, destructive device does cover Nukes. The people/companies who make them for the government have to be licensed. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19012 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
WTF is (8) a destructive device. Any solid object accelerated to, or above, the speed of sound, is pretty destructive. You only need to watch Mythbusters to realise that, and that it not that difficult. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
WTF is (8) a destructive device. (8) Normal things like, dynamite, C4, blasting caps, stuff that has industrial uses, mining, demolition. Of course it also covers mortars, grenades, ... . |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19012 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
The US gun law statement is not in the title, American babies are 76 percent more likely to die in their first year than babies in other rich countries, but further in the article. Among older children, the United Stands stands out on our rate of deaths by injury. In particular, Americans teens age 15 to 19 are 82 times more likely than teens in other rich countries to die of a gun homicide. Among black American adolescents, gun homicides are the leading cause of death in the United States. |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
The US gun law statement is not in the title, American babies are 76 percent more likely to die in their first year than babies in other rich countries, but further in the article. What "gun law statement" are you referring to? There is no gun law statement. I believe you should have read past those 2 statements mentioning guns. Most of that article had NOTHING to do with guns. Quit condemning just because you see the word "gun" somewhere in some stupid article. Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
I believe you should have read past those 2 statements mentioning guns. Most of that article had NOTHING to do with guns. You mean ignore this? Among older children, the United Stands stands out on our rate of deaths by injury. In particular, Americans teens age 15 to 19 are 82 times more likely than teens in other rich countries to die of a gun homicide. Among black American adolescents, gun homicides are the leading cause of death in the United States. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19012 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
The US gun law statement is not in the title, American babies are 76 percent more likely to die in their first year than babies in other rich countries, but further in the article. Your msg signifies to me that you believe it is ok for teenagers to be murdered by those who carry guns, of which you have indicated before you are one of them, Therefore I put you in the category of potential teen murderer. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Political Parties? Those who decide, no matter what party, simply don't dare to challenge the weapon lobby, NRA and the part of the American people prepared to defend the US constitution's Second Amendment to the last bullit. An addition that states that it is every American's right to carry weapons. Many consider it holy even though it came in a completely different era, 1791. Perhaps it was necessary to carry weapons in the American Revolution and the Civil War even in the aftermath of them. But in the 21C? Get real! The US now have a Police Force and an Army to protect US citizens. |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
The US gun law statement is not in the title, American babies are 76 percent more likely to die in their first year than babies in other rich countries, but further in the article. You, sir, are following in Clyde's footsteps. He puts words into peoples mouths and that is what you are doing here. My "msg" "signified" nothing of the kind. I simply asked what "gun law statement" you were referring to. There is no gun law statement in that article. Don't fret though. You're not the only one here to misinterpret, or misconstrue, what I said. It figures too, coming from ... Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
Political Parties? BOY! Are you ever way out in left field. The police force and/or Army would not get there in time to protect someone in harms way. It's happened in the past and will happen in the future. I much prefer to be able to protect my own and my property and not rely on the police to get here in 20 minutes or so, after I'm dead or dying. This per our Constitution. Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Political Parties? Well then. Scrap your Police force and the Army and save a LOT of US tax payers money. Hooray! |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
Political Parties? You are beginning to get the idea... https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24876 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Teen murders, or any murders by guns. Is necessary to include in this discussion.Especially when unarmed & murdered by so called professionals in "fear of their lives". |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Teen murders, or any murders by guns. Is necessary to include in this discussion.Especially when unarmed & murdered by so called professionals in "fear of their lives". Yes, Officer Safety is far far more important than civilian safety. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24876 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Yep & it puts paid to the mantra that Clyde has been banging his drum about for the past few years.Teen murders, or any murders by guns. Is necessary to include in this discussion.Especially when unarmed & murdered by so called professionals in "fear of their lives". So much for "individual freedoms". |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24876 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Do you agree or disagree "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." Is something that must continually be taught and repeated?I agree with that. However the problem is as"history" shows us, nobody listens - Therein lies the problem. Are you able to change that attitude? |
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