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Message 1754525 - Posted: 7 Jan 2016, 9:24:17 UTC - in response to Message 1754347.  

Wow, some people take this stuff so seriously, never realized! I think 'some people' need to take a step back and look at the real problems with this world or a closer to home. Everything from wars to friends with cancer, flying off about data not being available is a pointless drop in the bucket. Chances are you all have jobs, families, friends and this project is just a 'hobby' (if any of you are getting paid though let me know, i want in!). I have it running on 4 or 5 computers and Seti might cross my mind once a month (and that is to make sure the program is still up and running on each machine). I understand we are all passionate about certain things, which is a good thing, but there are always bigger things to be concerned about, and if not for you then count yourself one of the very lucky ones in the world and smile!

you can Google the idea: Gridcoin
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also, info...no more Betas for nVidia...all gone, already!
only intel's...& maybe ATi, but I don't use those cards...
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Message 1754577 - Posted: 7 Jan 2016, 13:45:57 UTC
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Hi Team,

I'm running SETI@home as "stock" on a Mac under OS X 10.11.2 with Boinc Manager v7.6.22

I got these errors messages each time BM is requesting new tasks from SETI (even after a project restart):

Jeu 7 jan 14:21:54 2016 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU and Intel GPU
Jeu 7 jan 14:21:56 2016 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 2 new tasks
Jeu 7 jan 14:21:56 2016 | SETI@home | [error] No app version found for app setiathome_v8 platform x86_64-apple-darwin ver 802 class ; discarding 04au15ab.26797.6202.8.35.213.vlar_1
Jeu 7 jan 14:21:56 2016 | SETI@home | [error] No app version found for app setiathome_v8 platform x86_64-apple-darwin ver 802 class ; discarding 04au15ab.26797.6202.8.35.215.vlar_0
Jeu 7 jan 14:27:03 2016 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
Jeu 7 jan 14:27:03 2016 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU and Intel GPU
Jeu 7 jan 14:27:05 2016 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 2 new tasks
Jeu 7 jan 14:27:05 2016 | SETI@home | [error] No app version found for app setiathome_v8 platform i686-apple-darwin ver 802 class ; discarding 04au15ab.26797.7020.8.35.105.vlar_0
Jeu 7 jan 14:27:05 2016 | SETI@home | [error] No app version found for app setiathome_v8 platform i686-apple-darwin ver 802 class ; discarding 04au15ab.26797.7020.8.35.111.vlar_0

I checked setiathome.berkeley.edu folder and there are no setiathome_8.02_.... applications
only those ones:
setiathome_8.01_i686-apple-darwin
setiathome_8.01_x86_64-apple-darwin
setigraphics_8.01_i686-apple-darwin
setigraphics_8.01_x86_64-apple-darwin

Is the bug on BM client side or SETI servers side?

Thanks by advance for the update,
Georges
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Message 1754580 - Posted: 7 Jan 2016, 13:52:26 UTC

I'm getting the same errors as GPV67. I say it is best to just wait it out. It will probably be fixed soon. I'm running OS X "Tiger" on a Core Duo (not Core2Duo) and all has been fine until now..

Plus SETI Classic = 21,082 WUs
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Message 1754598 - Posted: 7 Jan 2016, 14:39:16 UTC - in response to Message 1754577.  

Is the bug on BM client side or SETI servers side?

Server side. I've already reported it up the chain. It would appear that instead of v8.02, Macs (still?) get a v8.01 app sent with v8.02 designated work. So that work is discarded.

The bad thing though is that this isn't reported back to the server, so all work you appear to have in progress... shows as in progress, even when it has been discarded from your computer.
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Message 1754624 - Posted: 7 Jan 2016, 17:20:20 UTC - in response to Message 1754598.  

The bad thing though is that this isn't reported back to the server, so all work you appear to have in progress... shows as in progress, even when it has been discarded from your computer.

Maybe that's something that should be reported back up the other side of the reporting chain, to the BOINC devs - especially since David is taking more of an active role wearing his software architect hat at SETI these days.
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Message 1754629 - Posted: 7 Jan 2016, 17:41:57 UTC

Thanks for everybody's work on this!


I'm curious if the minimum requirements have changed (sse/etc) compared to the old apps.

Also, are the workunits shorter (or just more efficient?)? Mine were previously like 4 hours vs the new ones are more like 1 hour.
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Message 1754693 - Posted: 7 Jan 2016, 21:56:34 UTC

All was working great fro the last few days, but now all I get is

Thu Jan 7 13:50:16 2016 | SETI@home | [error] No app version found for app setiathome_v8 platform x86_64-apple-darwin ver 802 class ; discarding 05au15ab.8238.514840.8.35.22.vlar_1
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Message 1754697 - Posted: 7 Jan 2016, 22:03:52 UTC

There is no reason to uncheck v7. There is still a lot of tasks out there that were split with v7, and have to be processed by v7.

It will likely be months before they all work though the system.
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Message 1754698 - Posted: 7 Jan 2016, 22:06:22 UTC - in response to Message 1754624.  

The bad thing though is that this isn't reported back to the server, so all work you appear to have in progress... shows as in progress, even when it has been discarded from your computer.

Maybe that's something that should be reported back up the other side of the reporting chain, to the BOINC devs

David Anderson wrote:
This has always been the client behavior.

Shrug.
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Message 1754707 - Posted: 7 Jan 2016, 22:33:52 UTC - in response to Message 1754698.  

David Anderson wrote:
This has always been the client behavior.

True, but not exactly relevant.

Should I send him a copy of my cautionary tale about software development?
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Message 1754709 - Posted: 7 Jan 2016, 22:34:53 UTC - in response to Message 1754698.  

Looks like my FreeBSD machines, which have v7, are running out of work. My BOINC manager is saying I don't have a useable version.

Would have been nice if both versions were supported a while, so that various OS users could have time to get new versions. Keep moving forward I say! :-)

Hopefully the FreeBSD port will be updated soon for version 8.
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Message 1754797 - Posted: 8 Jan 2016, 6:50:36 UTC
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Since I don't have millions of credits and am not in the inner circle I am not allowed to joke with you Apple guys. I have no raccoons, stripper pictures, or personal attacks (like to me in private, so I returned the favor to them) to post like you guys do. But I still have my same question:

I don't want to run v7 any more. It is not accurate.
If I uncheck v7 will it automatically switch to v8?
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Message 1754806 - Posted: 8 Jan 2016, 8:08:18 UTC - in response to Message 1754797.  
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Since I don't have millions of credits and am not in the inner circle I am not allowed to joke with you Apple guys. I have no raccoons, stripper pictures, or personal attacks (like to me in private, so I returned the favor to them) to post like you guys do. But I still have my same question:

I don't want to run v7 any more. It is not accurate.
If I uncheck v7 will it automatically switch to v8?


If you do not run an "optimised app" like "lunatics" or do not have an "app_info" file, then you need to do nothing as V8 will automatically be added. If you look at your preferences for the project you will see there is an entry for SETI@Home V8 set to yes.

If you use a GPU then currently there is no V8 work available you will just have to wait along with everyone else

As your computers are hidden I cannot really help you further than that.
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Message 1754810 - Posted: 8 Jan 2016, 8:19:29 UTC - in response to Message 1754577.  

Hi Team,

I'm running SETI@home as "stock" on a Mac under OS X 10.11.2 with Boinc Manager v7.6.22

I got these errors messages each time BM is requesting new tasks from SETI (even after a project restart):

Jeu 7 jan 14:21:54 2016 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU and Intel GPU
Jeu 7 jan 14:21:56 2016 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 2 new tasks
Jeu 7 jan 14:21:56 2016 | SETI@home | [error] No app version found for app setiathome_v8 platform x86_64-apple-darwin ver 802 class ; discarding 04au15ab.26797.6202.8.35.213.vlar_1
Jeu 7 jan 14:21:56 2016 | SETI@home | [error] No app version found for app setiathome_v8 platform x86_64-apple-darwin ver 802 class ; discarding 04au15ab.26797.6202.8.35.215.vlar_0
Jeu 7 jan 14:27:03 2016 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
Jeu 7 jan 14:27:03 2016 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU and Intel GPU
Jeu 7 jan 14:27:05 2016 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 2 new tasks
Jeu 7 jan 14:27:05 2016 | SETI@home | [error] No app version found for app setiathome_v8 platform i686-apple-darwin ver 802 class ; discarding 04au15ab.26797.7020.8.35.105.vlar_0
Jeu 7 jan 14:27:05 2016 | SETI@home | [error] No app version found for app setiathome_v8 platform i686-apple-darwin ver 802 class ; discarding 04au15ab.26797.7020.8.35.111.vlar_0

I checked setiathome.berkeley.edu folder and there are no setiathome_8.02_.... applications
only those ones:
setiathome_8.01_i686-apple-darwin
setiathome_8.01_x86_64-apple-darwin
setigraphics_8.01_i686-apple-darwin
setigraphics_8.01_x86_64-apple-darwin

Is the bug on BM client side or SETI servers side?

Thanks by advance for the update,
Georges

try out some SETi@home BETA...
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Message 1754819 - Posted: 8 Jan 2016, 9:23:07 UTC - in response to Message 1754810.  

try out some SETi@home BETA...
;)

Which is helping that user exactly how, when the project releases work associated with the wrong science application?
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Message 1754820 - Posted: 8 Jan 2016, 9:25:11 UTC - in response to Message 1754797.  
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Since I don't have millions of credits and am not in the inner circle I am not allowed to joke with you Apple guys. I have no raccoons, stripper pictures, or personal attacks (like to me in private, so I returned the favor to them) to post like you guys do. But I still have my same question:

I don't want to run v7 any more. It is not accurate.
If I uncheck v7 will it automatically switch to v8?



This should be the answer: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=78710&postid=1754697#1754697
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Message 1754827 - Posted: 8 Jan 2016, 10:10:37 UTC - in response to Message 1754819.  

try out some SETi@home BETA...
;)

Which is helping that user exactly how, when the project releases work associated with the wrong science application?

by doing a BETA works, so that they correct it!
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Message 1754843 - Posted: 8 Jan 2016, 13:12:27 UTC
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Hi folks,

Mac OS X issue was solved with seti@home version 8.03 published today.
Crunching is working well now.

As I own Mac with INTEL GPU and NVIDIA GPU i'm waiting for seti@home v8 GPUs apps.

Cheers,
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Message 1754849 - Posted: 8 Jan 2016, 13:29:33 UTC - in response to Message 1754525.  


you can Google the idea: Gridcoin
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Wow, who knew! (well, not me!) Very interesting!
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Message 1754851 - Posted: 8 Jan 2016, 14:16:16 UTC - in response to Message 1754827.  

try out some SETi@home BETA...
;)

Which is helping that user exactly how, when the project releases work associated with the wrong science application?

by doing a BETA works, so that they correct it!
;)

The problem wasn't with the inner workings of the science application, which is what the alpha and beta testing is for.

v8.01 was a working science application, but the graphics_app was not labeled as executable due to a typo. Eric then rereleased v8.01 as v8.02 by fixing the xml_doc in the database, but without building a new v8.02 application. Which resulted in BOINC trying to do the v8.02 named tasks with the v8.01 application still on their system, and that doesn't work. Which BOINC then responds to as deleting the affected tasks.

Had this happened at Beta, the exact same thing would've happened: discarding of the tasks by BOINC. But there is no problem with the science app, as v8.03 shows now on the majority of the Macintosh computers.
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