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Message 1754136 - Posted: 5 Jan 2016, 12:40:54 UTC - in response to Message 1754135.  


And here I thought I read there was still a problem with Gaussian detection at mid AR.
I'd have kept it in alpha.

Well, it's your app. Dev's discretion what stage an app is at.

Pay more detailed attention (or better start testing at last ;) ) what modification exactly under that analyse currently. Again, no need to mix it all up before fully catching up with current state of affairs.

Raistmer, dear, I would LOVE to alpha. However I don't have a testing bed to my name any more.
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Message 1754137 - Posted: 5 Jan 2016, 12:43:55 UTC - in response to Message 1754136.  

However I don't have a testing bed to my name any more.

Pity :/ Your Quadro retired ?
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Message 1754138 - Posted: 5 Jan 2016, 12:44:09 UTC - in response to Message 1754129.  
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Sounds smart and is also answer to my question.
Thank you.



How can I tell if an app is Apha or Beta?


You just would not see alpha unless your hacking abilities good enough LoL
Alpha releases are closed ones and not going to be published in anonymously accessible parts of internet.
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Message 1754231 - Posted: 6 Jan 2016, 0:43:15 UTC - in response to Message 1754137.  
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Hello,

I've done some pretty weird things, but it seems like everything is working now and I just wanted to ask you if you think I'm not as well off as I look.

I tried to, but mangled, adding to the app_info file the new parameters, so I just deleted it and restarted. This got me into some work for my 4 cpus and nothing for the gpu.

Read a little more and found your app on Mike's and loaded it and fired up again and it seems that all is working correctly now, but still no app_info file. Is it really necessary?

Before I messed this thing up, I was running the anonymous software for an AMD 3870k, but I was still setup for ver. 7 at that time.

Oh ya, I also updated the Boinc software to the latest version too.

The gpu work turned out to be a 3 hour AstroPulse v7 7.09 opencl_ati 100.

Do I need to change anything or add anything to make this thing work reliably?

Thanks a bunch,

Allen

UPDATE: I just checked on that AstroPulse and while it has been running for 20 minutes, the remaining time has only changed about 2 minutes and it is on 8% finished. Sound about right?
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Message 1754240 - Posted: 6 Jan 2016, 1:29:29 UTC

i was running stock apps gpu only for a while

after i saw that Mike had posted Raistmer's new app i installed lunatics which creates the app_info

then i added the new app and the new lines to the app_info
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Message 1754293 - Posted: 6 Jan 2016, 7:32:39 UTC

FYI and an observation. On the one rig I have converted to run MB v8 I noticed 9 'inconclusive results' on Computer ID: 7383754 upon looking at the other computers also involved ALL were the same Computer ID: 6463983. Upon looking at the tasks on that rig there is an inconclusive rate of ~40%.

I don't know if this is an issue but I thought I'd give a heads up for those who know lot's more than I. I run Window$ 8.1 while the other computer is running Darwin.

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Message 1754295 - Posted: 6 Jan 2016, 7:59:10 UTC - in response to Message 1754293.  
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yes [url]http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6463983&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=29
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is spitting out a lot of crap and should be shutdown.
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Message 1754307 - Posted: 6 Jan 2016, 10:03:04 UTC - in response to Message 1754121.  

may I remind all and sunder that ALL GPU apps are still in ALPHA?

that means IF you run them you need to pay VERY CLOSE attention to your hosts and report invalids and inconclusives that look like they will go invalid. Alpha apps are very likely to still have problems. Only when they have been promoted to beta the dev is fairly certain they are good. (and sometimes not even then).

IOW when you run an alpha app you need to be aware that you are TESTING it.
When you have the hood open on the car, you wouldn't let your kid behind the wheel, now would you?
Just running an alpha app is irresponsible. You might as well give the car keys to your kid when you are not sure the brakes work.

I don;t want to discourage people to alpha test. I just want to make sure you know exactly what you are doing, why you are doing it and what you need to look out for when doing it.

Well, ppl will go for it because there are no other tasks available for GPUs. My machine sits idle for 2 days now.
And just because it's alpha doesn't mean it sucks. I run an V7 alpha build since month and I haven't seen a single invalid or any other problem with it.
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Message 1754308 - Posted: 6 Jan 2016, 10:19:15 UTC - in response to Message 1754307.  

may I remind all and sunder that ALL GPU apps are still in ALPHA?

that means IF you run them you need to pay VERY CLOSE attention to your hosts and report invalids and inconclusives that look like they will go invalid. Alpha apps are very likely to still have problems. Only when they have been promoted to beta the dev is fairly certain they are good. (and sometimes not even then).

IOW when you run an alpha app you need to be aware that you are TESTING it.
When you have the hood open on the car, you wouldn't let your kid behind the wheel, now would you?
Just running an alpha app is irresponsible. You might as well give the car keys to your kid when you are not sure the brakes work.

I don;t want to discourage people to alpha test. I just want to make sure you know exactly what you are doing, why you are doing it and what you need to look out for when doing it.

Well, ppl will go for it because there are no other tasks available for GPUs. My machine sits idle for 2 days now.
And just because it's alpha doesn't mean it sucks. I run an V7 alpha build since month and I haven't seen a single invalid or any other problem with it.


Its a little more complicated with V8.


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Message 1754310 - Posted: 6 Jan 2016, 10:39:01 UTC

I know Mike. Still, I use all kind of computers since many, many years and I have seen great alpha- (and beta) versions of all kind of programms and I have seen so called "stable" builds which sucked in every way possible.
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Message 1754474 - Posted: 7 Jan 2016, 2:18:36 UTC - in response to Message 1754308.  
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Mike,

I have a question....is it true that there is no current software to run ver 8 WU's using an nVidia GPU?

If so, why do I have at least three of them sitting in my Validation Pending right now???

I've been playing with my app_info file and I was running Lunatics software prior to all of the changes.

Any thoughts?

Allen

Update: Now that I've looked, maybe I should have asked NX-01, it looks like he's got some too.
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Message 1754476 - Posted: 7 Jan 2016, 2:40:36 UTC - in response to Message 1754474.  

I have a question....is it true that there is no current software to run ver 8 WU's using an nVidia GPU?

If so, why do I have at least three of them sitting in my Validation Pending right now???

That's a good question.
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Message 1754478 - Posted: 7 Jan 2016, 2:50:57 UTC - in response to Message 1754476.  
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I have a question....is it true that there is no current software to run ver 8 WU's using an nVidia GPU?

If so, why do I have at least three of them sitting in my Validation Pending right now???

That's a good question.

I believe there is GPU application in testing for both Nvidia and ATI, not sure where you get it from. The application requires manual installation
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Message 1754482 - Posted: 7 Jan 2016, 3:23:50 UTC - in response to Message 1754474.  

Mike,

I have a question....is it true that there is no current software to run ver 8 WU's using an nVidia GPU?

If so, why do I have at least three of them sitting in my Validation Pending right now???


And more interesting yet, when you look at those jobs, the STDERR info indicates the work unit was actually Seti V7, not V8 ...
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Message 1754483 - Posted: 7 Jan 2016, 3:42:59 UTC
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I came here from the Q&A on Apple PCs so hopefully this is the correct spot to pose my question/issue. I have a somewhat out-of-date MacPro that I have not upgraded the OS since Tiger (10.4). Currently, my messages seem to be saying something about powerPC which seems odd because my MacPro is an intel machine.


This is the initial part of my messages (i686 seems normal). Then I get errors about powerPC ???

Wed Jan 6 19:05:09 2016||Starting BOINC client version 6.2.18 for i686-apple-darwin

Then comes this which is repeating right now.


Wed Jan 6 21:41:51 2016|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 4 new tasks
Wed Jan 6 21:41:51 2016|SETI@home|[error] No app version for result: i686-apple-darwin 802
Wed Jan 6 21:41:51 2016|SETI@home|[error] No app version for result: i686-apple-darwin 802
Wed Jan 6 21:41:51 2016|SETI@home|[error] No app version for result: i686-apple-darwin 802
Wed Jan 6 21:41:51 2016|SETI@home|[error] No app version for result: i686-apple-darwin 802
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Message 1754491 - Posted: 7 Jan 2016, 4:52:11 UTC - in response to Message 1754474.  

Mike,

I have a question....is it true that there is no current software to run ver 8 WU's using an nVidia GPU?

If so, why do I have at least three of them sitting in my Validation Pending right now???

I've been playing with my app_info file and I was running Lunatics software prior to all of the changes.

Any thoughts?

Allen

Update: Now that I've looked, maybe I should have asked NX-01, it looks like he's got some too.


There is an app for nvidia V8.
Its in beta test.


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Message 1754502 - Posted: 7 Jan 2016, 5:24:39 UTC - in response to Message 1754474.  
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Mike,

I have a question....is it true that there is no current software to run ver 8 WU's using an nVidia GPU?

If so, why do I have at least three of them sitting in my Validation Pending right now???

I've been playing with my app_info file and I was running Lunatics software prior to all of the changes.

Any thoughts?

Allen

Update: Now that I've looked, maybe I should have asked NX-01, it looks like he's got some too.

It looks like you modified the GPU sections of your app_info.xml with version 8.
So you have told the server that you have a v8 GPU app when you are still using the v7 app(setiathome enhanced x41zc). Then returning results to validate against those running the v8 CPU app. I expect most, if not all, of your GPU results, after being marked Completed, validation inconclusive, will become Invalid. Hopefully they don't see the invalid results & think it is from a problem with the current applications.
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Message 1754511 - Posted: 7 Jan 2016, 6:55:33 UTC

Yes there is a Beta Nvidia MB v8 application (ver. r3314), but it is nearly unusable with some (VLAR?)-WUs.
Constant driver restarts and excessive screen lags occur in addition to hogging a complete core only for feeding.
Basically a modified MB v7 OpenCL application.

I would say it is definitely still far far away from being ready for prime time...
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Message 1754514 - Posted: 7 Jan 2016, 7:19:42 UTC - in response to Message 1754511.  
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Yes there is a Beta Nvidia MB v8 application (ver. r3314), but it is nearly unusable with some (VLAR?)-WUs.
Constant driver restarts and excessive screen lags occur in addition to hogging a complete core only for feeding.
Basically a modified MB v7 OpenCL application.

I would say it is definitely still far far away from being ready for prime time...

On what host you testing it?
Your single active beta host has NVIDIA NVS 5200M and did not process (and even recived) single GPU task.

EDIT: and your host on main with low-end 430 has
"Number of period iterations for PulseFind set to:8" manually. So shooted yourself in the leg and blaming gun?
If you use non-default settings attempt to use them properly. If you really want to test new app - test it on beta.
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Message 1754528 - Posted: 7 Jan 2016, 9:30:06 UTC - in response to Message 1754474.  

Mike,

I have a question....is it true that there is no current software to run ver 8 WU's using an nVidia GPU?

If so, why do I have at least three of them sitting in my Validation Pending right now???

I've been playing with my app_info file and I was running Lunatics software prior to all of the changes.

Any thoughts?

Allen

Update: Now that I've looked, maybe I should have asked NX-01, it looks like he's got some too.

Allen, please see my reply in No more GPU Units?.

Executive summary:

AllenIN, Don't do that, please.
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