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Message 1753818 - Posted: 4 Jan 2016, 10:04:42 UTC - in response to Message 1753814.  

Try this...


https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9iU4E_jpim0X3ZyQmo3dUUxZFE&usp=sharing


This works, thanks. Will do some offline benchmarking to see what impact FFTW DLL replacement has.
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Message 1753824 - Posted: 4 Jan 2016, 10:12:49 UTC - in response to Message 1753769.  

I need a functional app_info and a functional app_config.
Any help is appreciated.

For CPU work, the info is present, earlier in this chain, that I used to get that running. For GPU work, there is no app yet. If you want to do the CPU part it's very easy, following Richard's message to paste this new segment into your App_Info.xml:

<app>
<name>setiathome_v8</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>setiathome_8.00_windows_intelx86.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>libfftw3f-3-3-4_x86.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_v8</app_name>
<version_num>800</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>setiathome_8.00_windows_intelx86.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>libfftw3f-3-3-4_x86.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
</app_version>

Then be sure to download the new executable:
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setiathome_8.00_windows_intelx86.exe
and put it in in the project directory.
Stop BOINC and restart. That's it.

On the other hand, screw it. I shouldn't have to understand anything about code, app files or jack shit to volunteer for this work.

But I thought I remembered you were here to learn as well? Isn't that some of the fun?


I have beat this thing to death; uninstalled and reinstalled, copied app_info and app_config, cleared all notices from BOINC. I show a clean program, I guess SETI still doesn't think so. I will try again this evening. GGGRrrrr....
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Message 1753846 - Posted: 4 Jan 2016, 13:59:13 UTC - in response to Message 1753664.  

Information from Charlie Fenton.
It is no longer possible to build PowerPC applications using current versions of the Mac development tools. They would have to be built with very old Mac development tools on an older Mac with a very old version of OS X.

I don't think it makes sense to offer SETI@home 8 for PowerPC Macs.

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Message 1753849 - Posted: 4 Jan 2016, 14:08:08 UTC - in response to Message 1753846.  

Information from Charlie Fenton.
It is no longer possible to build PowerPC applications using current versions of the Mac development tools. They would have to be built with very old Mac development tools on an older Mac with a very old version of OS X.

I don't think it makes sense to offer SETI@home 8 for PowerPC Macs.

Which basically translates to "Eric, you're on your own - but I'll help with the newer machines". Given Eric's usual position on this project - to be as all-inclusive, and all-welcoming, as possible - that probably means that PPC will continue to be supported as long as Eric has access to his old machine with the old tools, and as long as results continue to be returned - however slowly - by users.
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Message 1753873 - Posted: 4 Jan 2016, 16:27:19 UTC - in response to Message 1753710.  

Only fftw 3.3.4 x86 for SSE4.2 simd instruction set (the only one available on my Pentium 2117U and Celeron B830) and fftw 3.3.4 x64 in ssse3,avx and avx3 flavours (awaiting for next 3.3.5 version).
Compiled with --enable-float switch (i.e sse2 and "bigger").
I'm in the middle of uploading this four files on one of my Google Drive.

Marco.

Hi Marco,

does this mean, the x86-version *requires* SSE 4.2?
If so, i can't use them on my Q9550S, cause it only supports until SSE 4.1.
But i assume, i can use the x64-SSSE 3 version on that processor.

Thanks and best regards!
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Message 1753882 - Posted: 4 Jan 2016, 17:05:05 UTC - in response to Message 1753849.  

Information from Charlie Fenton.
It is no longer possible to build PowerPC applications using current versions of the Mac development tools. They would have to be built with very old Mac development tools on an older Mac with a very old version of OS X.

I don't think it makes sense to offer SETI@home 8 for PowerPC Macs.

Which basically translates to "Eric, you're on your own - but I'll help with the newer machines". Given Eric's usual position on this project - to be as all-inclusive, and all-welcoming, as possible - that probably means that PPC will continue to be supported as long as Eric has access to his old machine with the old tools, and as long as results continue to be returned - however slowly - by users.

Maybe some type of virtual machine exist on Macs to emulate PPC on Intel? That way new Mac could be used just with proper software load...
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Message 1753891 - Posted: 4 Jan 2016, 17:39:31 UTC - in response to Message 1753882.  

Information from Charlie Fenton.
It is no longer possible to build PowerPC applications using current versions of the Mac development tools. They would have to be built with very old Mac development tools on an older Mac with a very old version of OS X.

I don't think it makes sense to offer SETI@home 8 for PowerPC Macs.

Which basically translates to "Eric, you're on your own - but I'll help with the newer machines". Given Eric's usual position on this project - to be as all-inclusive, and all-welcoming, as possible - that probably means that PPC will continue to be supported as long as Eric has access to his old machine with the old tools, and as long as results continue to be returned - however slowly - by users.

Maybe some type of virtual machine exist on Macs to emulate PPC on Intel? That way new Mac could be used just with proper software load...

The only PPC on x86 VM I know is PearPC. Another option might be if there is a PPC based cloud service.
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Message 1753894 - Posted: 4 Jan 2016, 17:51:52 UTC - in response to Message 1753873.  

Only fftw 3.3.4 x86 for SSE4.2 simd instruction set (the only one available on my Pentium 2117U and Celeron B830) and fftw 3.3.4 x64 in ssse3,avx and avx3 flavours (awaiting for next 3.3.5 version).
Compiled with --enable-float switch (i.e sse2 and "bigger").
I'm in the middle of uploading this four files on one of my Google Drive.

Marco.

Hi Marco,

does this mean, the x86-version *requires* SSE 4.2?
If so, i can't use them on my Q9550S, cause it only supports until SSE 4.1.
But i assume, i can use the x64-SSSE 3 version on that processor.

Thanks and best regards!


Hi Ulrich....the three other than x86 version are all for x64 architecture.
I must rebuild x86 for my Q9450 (SSE4.1) and Q6600 (SSSE3) too...i'll post here when finished.

Marco.
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Message 1753898 - Posted: 4 Jan 2016, 18:19:15 UTC - in response to Message 1753894.  
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Hi Ulrich....the three other than x86 version are all for x64 architecture.
I must rebuild x86 for my Q9450 (SSE4.1) and Q6600 (SSSE3) too...i'll post here when finished.

Marco.

Great - thanks a lot! :)
Aloha, Uli

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Message 1753903 - Posted: 4 Jan 2016, 18:51:24 UTC

I tried the MB8_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_r3310 app on my GTX970 but it seems to hog a CPU core as well. Any info on that?

Is there going to be a Cuda app in the near future?
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Message 1753905 - Posted: 4 Jan 2016, 18:59:03 UTC - in response to Message 1753903.  

I tried the MB8_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_r3310 app on my GTX970 but it seems to hog a CPU core as well. Any info on that?

Is there going to be a Cuda app in the near future?

Yes, unfortunately all Nvidia OpenCL apps are real CPU hogs... :/

On the other side the "old" V7 real CUDA apps are a joy to use!
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Message 1753906 - Posted: 4 Jan 2016, 19:00:28 UTC - in response to Message 1753903.  

I don't have that problem on my 560ti and app is smother then any other app i've tried. Only uses a fraction of the 2 cores that is freed. Here it looks ok.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=114553

driver 353.62


I tried the MB8_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_r3310 app on my GTX970 but it seems to hog a CPU core as well. Any info on that?

Is there going to be a Cuda app in the near future?
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Message 1753917 - Posted: 4 Jan 2016, 19:37:41 UTC - in response to Message 1753903.  
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I tried the MB8_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_r3310 app on my GTX970 but it seems to hog a CPU core as well


Yes they do like the CPU cores don't they, lol...
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Message 1753920 - Posted: 4 Jan 2016, 19:56:50 UTC - in response to Message 1753917.  

Just to be sure i enabled all 4 cores for gerasim project.
And the SETI NV app used the 0.04 core it was said to use.
No problems detected on my box.



I tried the MB8_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_r3310 app on my GTX970 but it seems to hog a CPU core as well


Yes they do like the CPU cores don't they, lol...
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Message 1753925 - Posted: 4 Jan 2016, 20:12:11 UTC - in response to Message 1753920.  

I'm running them on the Beta site currently.

Each NV OpenCl uses between 98-99% of 1 core.

As far as I know, they haven't been moved to Main yet.

Plus Raistmer is rebuilding the apps for some issue they saw.
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Message 1753929 - Posted: 4 Jan 2016, 20:22:09 UTC - in response to Message 1753925.  
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Well, for reason unknown i couldn't get a singe wu to dl on beta so i tried app on main.
Same with my ATI cards..
I've been monitoring them all day and so far not a single problem detected.

I'll give them(.3314) a try at Beta tomorrow again. It's getting late.
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Message 1753966 - Posted: 4 Jan 2016, 22:33:58 UTC - in response to Message 1753769.  

I need a functional app_info and a functional app_config.
Any help is appreciated.

For CPU work, the info is present, earlier in this chain, that I used to get that running. For GPU work, there is no app yet. If you want to do the CPU part it's very easy, following Richard's message to paste this new segment into your App_Info.xml:

<app>
<name>setiathome_v8</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>setiathome_8.00_windows_intelx86.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>libfftw3f-3-3-4_x86.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_v8</app_name>
<version_num>800</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>setiathome_8.00_windows_intelx86.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>libfftw3f-3-3-4_x86.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
</app_version>

Then be sure to download the new executable:
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setiathome_8.00_windows_intelx86.exe
and put it in in the project directory.
Stop BOINC and restart. That's it.

On the other hand, screw it. I shouldn't have to understand anything about code, app files or jack shit to volunteer for this work.

But I thought I remembered you were here to learn as well? Isn't that some of the fun?


I won! Thank you for your tolerance, I apologize for my outburst... Still a lot to learn I think. No GPU apps?
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Message 1753985 - Posted: 4 Jan 2016, 23:45:26 UTC - in response to Message 1753966.  

No GPU apps?

I believe this to be correct. There is currently one in beta testing I believe however this requires manual installation. Not sure where you get the application from
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Message 1753986 - Posted: 4 Jan 2016, 23:47:39 UTC - in response to Message 1753985.  

Maybe at the top thread.
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Message 1753991 - Posted: 5 Jan 2016, 0:17:05 UTC - in response to Message 1753986.  

Maybe at the top thread.
Tullio

thanks I forgot that was thee. I think this is only for the CPU version though at this stage.
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