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W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19706 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
Usually a hazard externally, but inside… https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/c2kqp8qewe9o |
Dr Who Fan ![]() Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3484 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 ![]() |
Usually a hazard externally, but inside… I guess the birds were looking for a new vacation spot and didn't want to 'wing-it' the whole way. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 38175 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 ![]() ![]() |
I can fly, no I can't. A car has violently flown off the road and on to the roof of a building, just as it was being repaired from a previous incident months earlier. Defying the odds, a car flew off a roadway and smashed into the roof of a military veterans hall in the US — the second such incident in just three months. |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31346 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 ![]() ![]() |
I think I'd move the building. |
Admiral Gloval ![]() Send message Joined: 31 Mar 13 Posts: 22024 Credit: 5,308,449 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Red Bull does not give you wings. ![]() ![]() |
Dr Who Fan ![]() Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3484 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 ![]() |
Driver injured after dump truck crashes into North Texas house, officials say HASLET, Texas — A driver was hospitalized after a truck crashed into a house in North Texas on Friday, deputies say. |
Dr Who Fan ![]() Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3484 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 ![]() |
Whatever agency is responsible for that stretch of road should maybe figure out why 2 vehicles have unexpectedly 'landed' on the roof of that building and find a preventative measure before a 3rd vehicle goes through the roof. |
Dr Who Fan ![]() Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3484 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 ![]() |
A beeautiful wreck 14 million bees escape after truck overturns in Washington state Approximately 14 million bees escaped after a tractor-trailer carrying more than 70,000 pounds of pollinator hives rolled over Friday in northern Washington state, authorities said. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13951 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 ![]() ![]() |
Whatever agency is responsible for that stretch of road should maybe figure out why 2 vehicles have unexpectedly 'landed' on the roof of that building and find a preventative measure before a 3rd vehicle goes through the roof.This one was reported as a medical emergency, the previous one the result of someone trying to outrun the police. If only healthy people and non-idiots drove, then cars wouldn't keep crashing into the roof. Grant Darwin NT |
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Just in. Air India flight to the UK crashes during take-off in Ahmedabad. An Air India plane with more than 200 people on board has crashed in western India, near to the airport in the city of Ahmedabad, according to the airline and police officials.More to come. |
Scrooge McDuck ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1725 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 ![]() ![]() |
Just in.Plane took off; climbed out; lost height shortly after, ... inferno. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uzNSamPR38&t=3s What a horror for dependants and relatives. R.I.P. |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31346 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 ![]() ![]() |
Plane took off without flaps deployed if I'm seeing one video correctly. Ouch. |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19706 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
Plane took off without flaps deployed if I'm seeing one video correctly. Ouch. and landing gear down. Double Ouch. |
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Now you have to wonder why that plane was allowed to takeoff again. A passenger aboard the Air India jet recorded a chilling video from inside the cabin, exposing what he described as terrifying faults just hours before the fatal crash. Shocking footage showed the Boeing 787 Dreamliner’s interior with defective TV screens and “no air conditioning at all” when it flew from Delhi to Ahmedadbad – two hours prior to the horror smash...... |
Scrooge McDuck ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1725 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 ![]() ![]() |
Plane took off without flaps deployed if I'm seeing one video correctly. Ouch.Add to that 37C (99F) air temperature for a supposedly fully laden long range flight: 4,300 mi (6,900 km). [Edit to add]: max range of B787-8 is about 8,500 mi (13,500 km); so, significantly less than max takeoff weight. |
rob smith ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22811 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 ![]() ![]() |
37C is well within the max-load take-off limits for a b787. I've flown in a frw 787 and wouldn't rate the hvac system as good, perhaps mediocre... Seat back videos are a grade 1 reliability issue with many airlines and aircraft types, but not working isn't a safety issue, unlike overhead lockers Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Scrooge McDuck ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1725 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 ![]() ![]() |
I don't know about this much; so please excuse any stupid questions or wrong 'words'. If a modern plane like B787 departs without flaps; then takes of... climbs significantly for 200...300 ft (just guessing); There are sensors for AoA (angle of attack), air speed, flaps position; engine thrust; a computer controlled 'flight envelope'... Shouldn't have a B787 fly-by-wire aircraft prevented the pilot from increasing the AoA (angle of attack) above the stall limit? That way forcing the plane to depart extremely low, climbing slower; surely endangering collision with ground obstacles; but in the end (no skyscrapers near Ahmedabad airport) have prevented this horrible crash? |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13951 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 ![]() ![]() |
Shouldn't have a B787 fly-by-wire aircraft prevented the pilot from increasing the AoA (angle of attack) above the stall limit? That way forcing the plane to depart extremely low, climbing slower; surely endangering collision with ground obstacles; but in the end (no skyscrapers near Ahmedabad airport) have prevented this horrible crash?Boeing's don't have that level of control over pilot input, where as Airbus aircraft do (as evidenced by the Air France demonstration flight at an airshow that flew low & slow into the trees at the end of the runway many years ago...). Grant Darwin NT |
Admiral Gloval ![]() Send message Joined: 31 Mar 13 Posts: 22024 Credit: 5,308,449 RAC: 0 ![]() |
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Scrooge McDuck ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1725 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 ![]() ![]() |
This is a bit off topic but is possible with a near empty plane.Hmmm, I think they also do this to Airbus planes. Who? The few qualified Airbus' test pilots with one of the first couple of prototype aircrafts that aren't sold to airlines instead kept by the manufacturer for long time structural tests and so on. These pilots press prototype aircraft to their limits in order to determine if the real aerodynamic limits in all details match to calculations and simulations, etc; the results of which are then the basis for parameters that limit flight controls for regular airline pilots. So, I think this video too shows a prototype aircraft flown by extremely experienced test pilots. |
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