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Message 2149380 - Posted: 28 May 2025, 11:00:33 UTC

Usually a hazard externally, but inside…
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Message 2149385 - Posted: 28 May 2025, 14:29:37 UTC - in response to Message 2149380.  

Usually a hazard externally, but inside…
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/c2kqp8qewe9o

I guess the birds were looking for a new vacation spot and didn't want to 'wing-it' the whole way.
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Message 2149461 - Posted: 31 May 2025, 7:37:03 UTC

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A car has violently flown off the road and on to the roof of a building, just as it was being repaired from a previous incident months earlier.

Defying the odds, a car flew off a roadway and smashed into the roof of a military veterans hall in the US — the second such incident in just three months.

The Clay-Ray Veterans Memorial Hall in Missouri was still repairing its roof from the previous crash in February when a driver suffering a medical emergency went airborne and landed on the same part of the building’s roof Wednesday morning.....
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Message 2149464 - Posted: 31 May 2025, 7:59:47 UTC - in response to Message 2149461.  

I think I'd move the building.
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Message 2149468 - Posted: 31 May 2025, 9:01:13 UTC

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Message 2149476 - Posted: 31 May 2025, 17:57:34 UTC

Driver injured after dump truck crashes into North Texas house, officials say
HASLET, Texas — A driver was hospitalized after a truck crashed into a house in North Texas on Friday, deputies say.

Shortly before 10:30 a.m., deputies responded to a crash near FM Road 718 and Newark Ranch Road in Tarrant County. When they arrived, they found a dump truck had plowed through the wall of a home in the 1200 block of Melissa Cove.

A sedan that was also involved in the crash ended up on the nearby train tracks, deputies said.

Tarrant County Sheriff's deputies say a Mercedes heading northbound on 718 blew out a tire, veered into the oncoming lane and hit the truck, which caused the truck to go off-road and crash into the house.

"He attempted to avoid a head-on collision. Doing so, he left the road, overcorrected and ended up going through the backyard into this residence," said Newark Fire Department Capt. Rusty Peace.
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Message 2149490 - Posted: 1 Jun 2025, 2:01:43 UTC - in response to Message 2149461.  

Whatever agency is responsible for that stretch of road should maybe figure out why 2 vehicles have unexpectedly 'landed' on the roof of that building and find a preventative measure before a 3rd vehicle goes through the roof.
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Message 2149491 - Posted: 1 Jun 2025, 2:11:27 UTC

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14 million bees escape after truck overturns in Washington state
Approximately 14 million bees escaped after a tractor-trailer carrying more than 70,000 pounds of pollinator hives rolled over Friday in northern Washington state, authorities said.

The commercial truck hauling the honeybees overturned at about 4 a.m. in Whatcom County, Washington, which borders Canada's British Columbia, the sheriff's office said in a social media post. It's unclear what caused the truck to roll over.

Authorities said the road where the truck overturned was closed for about 24 hours to allow the bees to re-hive and find their queen bee.

More than two dozen beekeepers came to assist with the rescue, the sheriff's office said, adding: "The goal is to save as many of the bees as possible."

"At this time, on-scene work is done. Hive boxes from the overturned truck were recovered, restored and returned to use," authorities said in an update. "By morning, most bees should have returned to their hives and those responsible for their delivery will be in charge."
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Message 2149494 - Posted: 1 Jun 2025, 3:20:29 UTC - in response to Message 2149490.  

Whatever agency is responsible for that stretch of road should maybe figure out why 2 vehicles have unexpectedly 'landed' on the roof of that building and find a preventative measure before a 3rd vehicle goes through the roof.
This one was reported as a medical emergency, the previous one the result of someone trying to outrun the police.
If only healthy people and non-idiots drove, then cars wouldn't keep crashing into the roof.
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Message 2149769 - Posted: 12 Jun 2025, 9:23:17 UTC

Just in.

Air India flight to the UK crashes during take-off in Ahmedabad.

An Air India plane with more than 200 people on board has crashed in western India, near to the airport in the city of Ahmedabad, according to the airline and police officials.

Those authorities have not yet specified whether there were any fatalities

The plane was travelling to London's Gatwick airport in the UK, Air India said. Local police have reported that the flight crashed in a civilian area near to the airport.

"At this moment, we are ascertaining the details and will share further updates," Air India said on X.

The crash occurred when the aircraft was taking off, the TV channels reported. Visuals from near to the crash site showed debris on fire, with thick black smoke rising up into the sky near the airport.

At least of 242 people were on board the flight, police in Ahmedabad reported.

They also showed visuals of people being moved in stretchers and being taken away in ambulances.
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Message 2149774 - Posted: 12 Jun 2025, 14:16:01 UTC - in response to Message 2149769.  
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Just in.

Air India flight to the UK crashes during take-off in Ahmedabad.
Plane took off; climbed out; lost height shortly after, ... inferno.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uzNSamPR38&t=3s

What a horror for dependants and relatives. R.I.P.
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Message 2149784 - Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 0:58:31 UTC - in response to Message 2149774.  

Plane took off without flaps deployed if I'm seeing one video correctly. Ouch.
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Message 2149786 - Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 3:01:52 UTC - in response to Message 2149784.  

Plane took off without flaps deployed if I'm seeing one video correctly. Ouch.

and landing gear down. Double Ouch.
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Message 2149788 - Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 5:59:01 UTC

Now you have to wonder why that plane was allowed to takeoff again.

A passenger aboard the Air India jet recorded a chilling video from inside the cabin, exposing what he described as terrifying faults just hours before the fatal crash.

Shocking footage showed the Boeing 787 Dreamliner’s interior with defective TV screens and “no air conditioning at all” when it flew from Delhi to Ahmedadbad – two hours prior to the horror smash......

....He posted horrifying footage which showed many parts of the plane not functioning properly during its second last ever flight.

He said on X: “I was in the same damn flight 2 hours before it took off from AMD. I came in this from DEL-AMD.”

The shocked passenger added that he had “noticed unusual things” in the plane which he suggested may have been telltale signs that it was defective.

In the concerning footage, he can be heard saying: “The AC is not working at all. And as usual, your TV screens are also not working, neither this button for calling the cabin crew.”.....
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Message 2149790 - Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 6:07:46 UTC - in response to Message 2149784.  
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Plane took off without flaps deployed if I'm seeing one video correctly. Ouch.
Add to that 37C (99F) air temperature for a supposedly fully laden long range flight: 4,300 mi (6,900 km).

[Edit to add]: max range of B787-8 is about 8,500 mi (13,500 km); so, significantly less than max takeoff weight.
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Message 2149792 - Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 6:49:13 UTC - in response to Message 2149790.  

37C is well within the max-load take-off limits for a b787.
I've flown in a frw 787 and wouldn't rate the hvac system as good, perhaps mediocre...
Seat back videos are a grade 1 reliability issue with many airlines and aircraft types, but not working isn't a safety issue, unlike overhead lockers
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Message 2149797 - Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 9:12:23 UTC

I don't know about this much; so please excuse any stupid questions or wrong 'words'.

If a modern plane like B787 departs without flaps; then takes of... climbs significantly for 200...300 ft (just guessing); There are sensors for AoA (angle of attack), air speed, flaps position; engine thrust; a computer controlled 'flight envelope'...

Shouldn't have a B787 fly-by-wire aircraft prevented the pilot from increasing the AoA (angle of attack) above the stall limit? That way forcing the plane to depart extremely low, climbing slower; surely endangering collision with ground obstacles; but in the end (no skyscrapers near Ahmedabad airport) have prevented this horrible crash?
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Message 2149799 - Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 9:49:59 UTC - in response to Message 2149797.  

Shouldn't have a B787 fly-by-wire aircraft prevented the pilot from increasing the AoA (angle of attack) above the stall limit? That way forcing the plane to depart extremely low, climbing slower; surely endangering collision with ground obstacles; but in the end (no skyscrapers near Ahmedabad airport) have prevented this horrible crash?
Boeing's don't have that level of control over pilot input, where as Airbus aircraft do (as evidenced by the Air France demonstration flight at an airshow that flew low & slow into the trees at the end of the runway many years ago...).
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Message 2149803 - Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 10:24:24 UTC

This is a bit off topic but is possible with a near empty plane.
Boeing 787 near vertical takeoff.

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Message 2149804 - Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 10:47:22 UTC - in response to Message 2149803.  
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This is a bit off topic but is possible with a near empty plane.
Boeing 787 near vertical takeoff.
Hmmm, I think they also do this to Airbus planes. Who? The few qualified Airbus' test pilots with one of the first couple of prototype aircrafts that aren't sold to airlines instead kept by the manufacturer for long time structural tests and so on. These pilots press prototype aircraft to their limits in order to determine if the real aerodynamic limits in all details match to calculations and simulations, etc; the results of which are then the basis for parameters that limit flight controls for regular airline pilots.

So, I think this video too shows a prototype aircraft flown by extremely experienced test pilots.
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