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Message 2073757 - Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 6:33:35 UTC - in response to Message 2073751.  

The software got tired & fell asleep at the wheel.
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Message 2073758 - Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 6:35:34 UTC - in response to Message 2073751.  

You can't fix stupid.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/apr/19/two-die-in-tesla-crash-no-one-in-drivers-seat-police
Ages back after some earlier Tesla accidents i downloaded the owner's manual just to have a look at it.
The number of times it repeats that the Auto pilot is not there to drive the car for you- it's just an assistant. ie- it's there to help you, the driver. You still need to drive the car, it'll just help you out.
But as you say- there's no fix for stupid, other than a permanent one such as occurred with these two.
Luckily they didn't take anyone else out with them.
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Message 2073769 - Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 13:18:14 UTC - in response to Message 2073758.  
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High speed, twisty windy road, noone in the driver's seat...

Were they doing a thrill-seeking or a show-off-the-tech 'dare'?...


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Message 2073771 - Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 13:50:10 UTC

WWII-era plane makes emergency landing — just feet from Florida beach
Footage by WFTV showed beachgoers — including young children in the sea — staring calmly at the single-engine TBM Avenger as it flew toward them Saturday around 20 feet from the shore.
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Message 2073825 - Posted: 20 Apr 2021, 3:09:40 UTC

Don;t have Ambulance Insurance ... use AAA instead


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Message 2074045 - Posted: 23 Apr 2021, 7:06:19 UTC

Even this wouldn't be enough for quite a few drivers these days.



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Message 2074216 - Posted: 25 Apr 2021, 17:26:32 UTC

One way to stop a car I suppose.
Worth an Olympic medal at least
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Message 2074303 - Posted: 26 Apr 2021, 22:56:24 UTC

Just another truck driver that doesn't know the height of his vehicle. :-(

Lindsay Transport truck stuck under Corinda rail bridge/

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Message 2074412 - Posted: 28 Apr 2021, 12:23:05 UTC

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Message 2074482 - Posted: 28 Apr 2021, 21:13:02 UTC - in response to Message 2074412.  

Too soon
Yep.

The government confirmed that drivers will not be required to monitor the road or keep their hands on the wheel when the vehicle is driving itself.

But the driver will need to stay alert and be able take over when requested by the system within 10 seconds.

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Message 2074484 - Posted: 28 Apr 2021, 21:16:15 UTC - in response to Message 2074482.  

Too soon
Yep.

The government confirmed that drivers will not be required to monitor the road or keep their hands on the wheel when the vehicle is driving itself.

But the driver will need to stay alert and be able take over when requested by the system within 10 seconds.

Heck.....
A lot of drivers of conventional cars can't take over within 10 seconds to respond to real life driving situations.
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Message 2074519 - Posted: 29 Apr 2021, 10:16:33 UTC

Geeze, if you're not interested, or willing, to drive your own car, then for the sake of God, take the bus, or the train, or a taxi.
Where in heavens name is this world heading? Just because it's possible to do something (technologically, medically, genetically, or otherwise),
that doesn't mean that you have to do it.

But by all means, also implant chips in your brain people, so you don't have to think for yourselves any longer. Is this kind of crap the direction to where this world is heading?
In that case, I'm glad that I'm not young any longer.
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Message 2074520 - Posted: 29 Apr 2021, 10:21:09 UTC - in response to Message 2074519.  

Geeze, if you're not interested, or willing, to drive your own car, then for the sake of God, take the bus, or the train, or a taxi.
Where in heavens name is this world heading? Just because it's possible to do something (technologically, medically, genetically, or otherwise),
that doesn't mean that you have to do it.

But by all means, also implant chips in your brain people, so you don't have to think for yourselves any longer. Is this kind of crap the direction to where this world is heading?
In that case, I'm glad that I'm not young any longer.

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Message 2074528 - Posted: 29 Apr 2021, 13:27:36 UTC - in response to Message 2074519.  

... Where in heavens name is this world heading? Just because it's possible to do something (technologically, medically, genetically, or otherwise),
that doesn't mean that you have to do it.

But by all means, also implant chips in your brain people, so you don't have to think for yourselves any longer. Is this kind of crap the direction to where this world is heading?
In that case, I'm glad that I'm not young any longer.

All by the power of Marketing. All eagerly gobbled up by the unthinking masses of sheep.

And hey! We are already 'chipped' by RFID tags in everything we buy, and by tracking our mobile phones for every move we make and for everything we do.

Google fills in the rest for what we think...


IT is what we allow it to be...
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Message 2074909 - Posted: 4 May 2021, 6:16:36 UTC

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Message 2074969 - Posted: 4 May 2021, 18:59:28 UTC

We are in the first good session of rain in about a month, falling onto long time dry roads, and...


There's just been a three car crunch near here. Noone hurt but all very embarrassing, especially for where one car ended up slewed past the intended turning to eventually stop across the wrong side of the junction...

Looks like that driver locked up all four wheels whilst braking whilst simultaneously turning into the junction. That is far too late bad braking that you might get away with when in the dry and grippy. No chance when blindly trying that in the freshly wet and slippy...

And there really does seem to be a strong effect that the roads are unusually slippery when doused with the first rain after a long dry spell.


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Message 2074970 - Posted: 4 May 2021, 19:06:27 UTC - in response to Message 2074909.  
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Reuters - Mexico City rail overpass collapses, killing 15 and injuring 70

Looking at that from other sources:

That area of viaduct was reported to have suffered cracks from an earthquake. Supposedly, repairs were made.

The point of failure looks to be at the midpoint where beams meet at an angle for where that section widens out, possibly for another track.

... Joint failure due to weakening due to other fixings at that point or due to increased load at that point, or a combination of all? With added corrosion to further weaken the joint?


Note, support beams do not normally 'snap' in the middle! Not without other detrimental factors...

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Message 2074974 - Posted: 4 May 2021, 19:40:58 UTC

Sadly it appears that the death toll has now reached at least 23 :-(
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-56985164
Also there have been some unsubstantiated reports that suggest this section of line has not only suffered from earthquake damage, but also from poor workmanship during construction and repair.
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Message 2075178 - Posted: 7 May 2021, 10:52:25 UTC

Better late than never
However, I'll lays odds that there will still be crossing jumpers occurring by those who won't want the "extra" driving time involved.
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Message 2075294 - Posted: 8 May 2021, 15:17:26 UTC - in response to Message 2074974.  
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Sadly it appears that the death toll has now reached at least 23 :-(
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-56985164
Also there have been some unsubstantiated reports that suggest this section of line has not only suffered from earthquake damage, but also from poor workmanship during construction and repair.

In this report:

Mexico City metro: Hundreds protest at scene of deadly rail collapse

In there, there is a picture that clearly shows the point of failure to be at a joint between very different beams at the mid-point of the span. The neighboring spans are made using beams that each cover an entire span. The failed span used multiple beams that only covered half the span. Those collapsed beams were most likely bolted together at a joint in the middle...


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