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Message 2056877 - Posted: 11 Sep 2020, 19:11:22 UTC - in response to Message 2056874.  
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Whilst the dispatcher may get some blame, it's down to the driver to read all relevant road signs...

The 'typical unfortunate trick' is that:

  • Dispatcher doesn't know the route to know to specify a single deck bus;
  • Or there is not a single deck bus available that day;
  • Bus driver 'forgets' the bus is a double decker (very easily done!);
  • Or the bus driver deviates from the normal route...



Regardless, there has to be procedures and 'common sense' to avoid such crashes.

Note:

Personally, I am strongly against calling such crashes "accidents" or "incidents" that euphemistically ignores the consequences.


Frequently hit low bridges get electronic height warnings or sacrificial height barriers installed so that an unaware driver is very much loudly alerted before smashing into the bridge. However, that is expensive and usually only done after a few crashes...

Instead:

We already inexpensively have radar distance sensors for "braking assist / collision avoidance" 'safety' on cars. Require that be fitted to all high passenger vehicles to detect both other vehicles AND low overhangs?


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Message 2056880 - Posted: 11 Sep 2020, 20:20:17 UTC

In olden days (say, anything more than about 10 years ago), the local newspaper would have sent down a 'leg man' to herd up the kids and listen to their stories. Was this the normal route they took to school? Was it normally a double-decker bus? Did they know today's driver? You very quickly get to the bottom of the problem with questions like that.

Instead, the regional TV station rings up the bus company's PR guy and asks for a statement to camera. Nothing survives that treatment.

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Message 2057296 - Posted: 18 Sep 2020, 10:17:40 UTC

Some folks were born without common sense, others loose it along the way:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54197344
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Message 2057298 - Posted: 18 Sep 2020, 10:29:15 UTC - in response to Message 2057296.  

Some folks were born without common sense, others loose it along the way:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54197344
And there is yet another example of why birth control is so important.
And why before people go for their written test, let alone their actual driving test, they should first be tested for stupidity & idiocy. Such people should never be allowed to drive a motorised vehicle.
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Message 2057300 - Posted: 18 Sep 2020, 11:04:00 UTC

And another one who maybe should have been removed from the gene pool for this stunt........
Michigan driver arrested after pulling 'Dukes of Hazzard' stunt over Detroit bridge.
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Message 2057356 - Posted: 19 Sep 2020, 15:01:27 UTC

Maybe next time she'll win a Darwin award
Road safety? With idiots like this on the road? No chance!
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Message 2057360 - Posted: 19 Sep 2020, 16:25:08 UTC

Woops, finger trouble there Sirius
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-54217327
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Message 2057362 - Posted: 19 Sep 2020, 17:38:43 UTC - in response to Message 2057360.  

Oops, thanks Rob. Just checked, put a full stop where it shouldn't be. :-(
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Message 2057366 - Posted: 19 Sep 2020, 20:20:58 UTC - in response to Message 2057356.  

Maybe next time she'll win a Darwin award
Road safety? With idiots like this on the road? No chance!


She was treated at the scene by paramedics. No arrests have been made, police added.
You'd hope they'd at least charge her with committing a dangerous act or something similar.
I can't imagine how someone would have felt if they had run over her, even if there had been no way to avoid her.
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Message 2057494 - Posted: 22 Sep 2020, 17:31:21 UTC

O.K, I could see some one trying this in Texas but in Chicago???
‘Dreadhead Cowboy’ faces 3 charges after riding horse on Dan Ryan Expressway
At around 4:30 p.m., police responded to the southbound lanes of the Dan Ryan after Adam Hollingsworth, 33, better known as the “Dreadhead Cowboy,” was seen riding his horse on the expressway near 35th Street.

He rode for around 30 minutes as traffic slowed to a halt with Illinois State Police and Chicago police following close behind. Police said they asked Hollingsworth and those who were with him to exit the expressway multiple times and said they refused.

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Message 2057500 - Posted: 22 Sep 2020, 18:06:47 UTC - in response to Message 2057494.  

O.K, I could see some one trying this in Texas but in Chicago???
‘Dreadhead Cowboy’ faces 3 charges after riding horse on Dan Ryan Expressway
At around 4:30 p.m., police responded to the southbound lanes of the Dan Ryan after Adam Hollingsworth, 33, better known as the “Dreadhead Cowboy,” was seen riding his horse on the expressway near 35th Street.

He rode for around 30 minutes as traffic slowed to a halt with Illinois State Police and Chicago police following close behind. Police said they asked Hollingsworth and those who were with him to exit the expressway multiple times and said they refused.

The ignorant SOB should be taken to prison for animal abuse immediately....................
"The horse, who is called “NuNu,” had multiple injuries when animal control arrived. Police said it was bleeding from the left hoof, its right hoof was injured and the right side of the horse’s body had sores from the saddle."
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Message 2057533 - Posted: 23 Sep 2020, 6:40:44 UTC

Rather than sit through a 3 hour video the abstract document is an easier read :https://ntsb.gov/news/events/Documents/2020-RRD19FR010-BMG-abstract.pdf
A couple of highlights are that the driver failed his post-accident alcohol test (and had marijuana present), and CSX were not implementing their own D&A testing policy adequately.
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Message 2057554 - Posted: 23 Sep 2020, 16:10:25 UTC - in response to Message 2057533.  
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Thanks for the summary!

That does highlight that long distance driving is deadly boring and dangerously monotonous for most/many/normal(?) people...

Hence the scary number of times I've seen large vehicles drift across the motorway lanes, driver completely unaware, whilst making breakfast on the steering wheel or fumbling with whatever mobile device or... even watching TV! All whilst controlling lots of tonnes of 100kph metal momentum... (100kph+ downhill with the engine disengaged...)


'Tachographs' have helped... But what else is needed?

Aircraft-style monitoring?

Suicidal spike to replace the steering wheel mounted airbag?


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Message 2057589 - Posted: 24 Sep 2020, 5:34:34 UTC

Talk about lucky.

A 32-year-old woman in a white Volkswagen Golf drove through barriers surrounding the elevated beachside car park about 10:25am this morning.
The car fell more than 20 metres off the cliff and landed on the rocky outcrop of Bar Beach below.


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Message 2057592 - Posted: 24 Sep 2020, 7:23:55 UTC - in response to Message 2057589.  

Talk about lucky.

A 32-year-old woman in a white Volkswagen Golf drove through barriers surrounding the elevated beachside car park about 10:25am this morning.
The car fell more than 20 metres off the cliff and landed on the rocky outcrop of Bar Beach below.

https://www.abc.net.au/cm/rimage/12698226-3x2-xlarge.jpg?v=2
I bet that she'll think twice before doing that again. :-O

But if you're going to do it, at least do it in a German made car. :-D

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Message 2057693 - Posted: 25 Sep 2020, 22:06:12 UTC

Antonov An-26 Military Plane Crashes in Ukraine, Killing at Least 22.

A military plane crashed during a training flight Friday night in the city of Chuhuiv in Kharkiv Oblast, a province located in eastern Ukraine. The country's emergency service said that 22 people are confirmed dead of the reportedly 28 passengers on board.

According to reports, there are two survivors who have sustained severe injuries, while the search is ongoing for four more passengers.

The plane crashed at roughly 9 p.m. and was immediately engulfed in flames, according to the Ukrainian police. The fire was reportedly put out by 10 p.m., but the search for the unaccounted passengers continues...

..The army reported that the AN-26 military aircraft is used to carry students of the Kharkiv Aviation University of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
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Message 2057714 - Posted: 26 Sep 2020, 3:35:36 UTC - in response to Message 2057500.  

Updates to story posted earlier in week:
Chicago’s ‘Census Cowboy’ charged with animal cruelty after 7-mile ‘Kids Lives Matter’ stunt on freeway leaves horse badly hurt
I didn’t mean no harm on my horse at all. I’m a horse- [and] animal-loving person,” he told reporters.

Then there's this intelligent statement by the felon:
...Despite disputing local authorities’ account of Monday’s stunt, Hollingsworth said he would “do it again” if he had the chance...

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Message 2057719 - Posted: 26 Sep 2020, 4:13:26 UTC

He should be forced to run 7 miles carrying a horse to see how he feels about it then. ;-)
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