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Message 1799897 - Posted: 1 Jul 2016, 13:17:30 UTC

Woman dragged by train when hand trapped at Hayes and Harlington station

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-36681656

(News of RAIB report)

I hope that is taken into account by the current 'one person operation' negotiations.

"Our investigation identified that the train driver and other railway staff held the same misunderstanding: if someone had a hand trapped in a door it would not be possible for the door interlock light to illuminate and a driver to take power."

"This is not the case, and the door was found to be compliant with all applicable standards after the accident."
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Message 1801058 - Posted: 6 Jul 2016, 11:59:23 UTC

Will they never learn. Double-decker bus roof ripped off after collision with railway bridge



Luckily the bus was returning to deport and no passengers on board.
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Message 1801080 - Posted: 6 Jul 2016, 15:20:04 UTC - in response to Message 1801058.  

Doubt it. Every time I see photo's like that I can't help but think back to a youngster that started with us in 2003. Out with me many times & did the Gloucester run long enough to learn the problems of delivering in Tuffley Lane (Tuffley, Glous).

It's a very long road with a bridge at the end from the A38 entrance to Tuffley. After his last drop in Tuffley Lane, next several drops were in Stroud, so he decided to go through the end. Only problem is that the bridge is 10'6" & the truck 11'3".

To compound his grief, there was a police patrol car behind him. Too many want to get back quickly after finishing their shift & forget their common sense.
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Message 1801119 - Posted: 6 Jul 2016, 18:21:45 UTC - in response to Message 1801080.  

The question I have to ask is, "Why cannot technology be used to as least stop some of these events?".
Why can't a WiFi transmitter, or similar, be placed on these low structures and signal to approaching high vehicles a warning, maybe to a GPS device.
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Message 1801145 - Posted: 6 Jul 2016, 20:20:32 UTC

Over the years various devices have tried - the most effective is the "dangling chain of bells" placed before the last point of retreat. These clatter the roof of any vehicle tall enough to strike the bridge. The trouble is not every driver takes notice of the "delightful ringing in the years" that results from hitting the bells and ploughs on to the point of impact.
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Message 1801158 - Posted: 6 Jul 2016, 21:17:35 UTC - in response to Message 1801145.  

Over the years various devices have tried - the most effective is the "dangling chain of bells" placed before the last point of retreat. These clatter the roof of any vehicle tall enough to strike the bridge. The trouble is not every driver takes notice of the "delightful ringing in the years" that results from hitting the bells and ploughs on to the point of impact.

Yes some are just totally engrossed in "get-home-itis" and nothing will stop them except an immobile object. The only cure for them is to make the bridge taller and dig the road out deeper. Idiot proofing is expensive.

page 9 http://www.faa.gov/news/safety_briefing/2013/media/MarApr2013.pdf
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Message 1801190 - Posted: 6 Jul 2016, 23:29:16 UTC - in response to Message 1801158.  

Over the years various devices have tried - the most effective is the "dangling chain of bells" placed before the last point of retreat. These clatter the roof of any vehicle tall enough to strike the bridge. The trouble is not every driver takes notice of the "delightful ringing in the years" that results from hitting the bells and ploughs on to the point of impact.

Yes some are just totally engrossed in "get-home-itis" and nothing will stop them except an immobile object. The only cure for them is to make the bridge taller and dig the road out deeper. Idiot proofing is expensive.

page 9 http://www.faa.gov/news/safety_briefing/2013/media/MarApr2013.pdf

I assume you know what "Idiot Proofing" does.
produces bigger idiots
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Message 1801213 - Posted: 7 Jul 2016, 0:58:41 UTC - in response to Message 1801190.  

produces bigger idiots

Genius has it limits, stupidity knows no bounds.
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Message 1806078 - Posted: 31 Jul 2016, 14:43:26 UTC

We all know that water & electricity don't work well together...

Neither does booze
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Message 1807410 - Posted: 5 Aug 2016, 23:53:06 UTC

This driver must be intelligent, nobody could be born this stupid.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-36986004
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Message 1807419 - Posted: 6 Aug 2016, 0:27:00 UTC - in response to Message 1807410.  

WK inline for a Darwin award.
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Message 1807464 - Posted: 6 Aug 2016, 3:55:05 UTC - in response to Message 1807419.  

WK inline for a Darwin award.

He didn't kill himself (yet) so he isn't eligible.
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Message 1807522 - Posted: 6 Aug 2016, 11:17:36 UTC

A Boeing 737 cargo from Paris to Orio al Serio (Bergamo) overshot the runaway and ended with its nose on a highway during a storm. Fortunately it was 4 AM and the motorists were few so they could avoid it.
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Message 1808053 - Posted: 9 Aug 2016, 0:08:18 UTC - in response to Message 1807522.  

A Boeing 737 cargo from Paris to Orio al Serio (Bergamo) overshot the runaway and ended with its nose on a highway during a storm. Fortunately it was 4 AM and the motorists were few so they could avoid it.
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Reminds me of a radio transmission years ago from a California airport, tower talking to a plane that just landed a bit far down the runway:

"Nxxx left at last exit if possible. If not possible, continue north on I5, take the Elm Street exit, right at the Gulf station back to airport."

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Message 1808077 - Posted: 9 Aug 2016, 5:37:05 UTC

Sexist, non-PC, but sorry I couldn't resist.
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Message 1808122 - Posted: 9 Aug 2016, 11:27:52 UTC

Did you hear about those new buses which are currently tested in China?






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Message 1808172 - Posted: 9 Aug 2016, 21:43:51 UTC - in response to Message 1808122.  

Did you hear about those new buses which are currently tested in China?






I think they need curbs for the cars, otherwise the possibility of a car getting in the way of the bus tracks will create many accidents.
Is it really a bus or an elevated train on ground level tracks?
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Message 1808381 - Posted: 10 Aug 2016, 19:24:18 UTC - in response to Message 1808172.  

Did you hear about those new buses which are currently tested in China?

I think they need curbs for the cars, otherwise the possibility of a car getting in the way of the bus tracks will create many accidents.
Is it really a bus or an elevated train on ground level tracks?

I'd say the latter, but bus sounds better to a politician than train.
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Message 1808480 - Posted: 11 Aug 2016, 11:20:18 UTC

I have no idea. The site where I have read about this called them TEBs - traffic elevated busses.
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Message 1810124 - Posted: 18 Aug 2016, 12:38:43 UTC

Oh, the irony :-)

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