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rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22502 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Never mind QC it should have been trapped by the sensible safety Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30980 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Tesla disables gaming while driving feature Of course it is safe, it engages the autopilot! |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36596 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Just before you hit an immovable object?Tesla disables gaming while driving featureOf course it is safe, it engages the autopilot! |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30980 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Train always wins. Stupid, just stupid. https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/killed-train-hits-car-crossing-gate-82017846 2 killed when train hits car going around crossing gate |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22502 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Some New Year's traditions are safer than others.... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59847372 Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36596 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
There's got to be a better way of getting rid of lemons. :-O |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19364 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Guess who followed his GPS. A nerve-wracking incident happened in Shanxi province's Changzhi City on January 1 when a hapless driver nearly killed himself trying to navigate a treacherous mountain pass. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/01/06/pictured-lucky-escape-lorry-driver-truck-teeters-brink/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-onward-journey |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21115 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
That makes for a spectacular recovery... Except... Those excavators risk getting pulled over the edge should the wagon slip over... Regardless of their extra tons and hopeful extra weight of earth and rock in their shovels... Why oh why no chains attached to the wagon chassis at the cab end that are then staked out or bolted into the rack face to forcibly make sure the thing isn't going to slide off?!! Stay safe folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22502 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
They do indeed, but their combined mass is considerably more than the truck, even if it's a typically overloaded one. Also by virtue of their design they have a considerable adhesion advantage. Why oh why no chains attached to the wagon chassis at the cab end that are then staked out or bolted into the rack face to forcibly make sure the thing isn't going to slide off?!! Loads of possible reasons, including, nothing available to drill the massive holes in the rock; during recovery movement is required; still setting up having done the first part of stabilisation and waiting for other equipment to arrive on the scene...... Reading the article it sounds as if the split the unit at sometime during the recovery, so the photos may just be during the initial stages of doing the job. Also there are some interesting discrepancies in the article, first, there is a width limit of 6.8m, now that truck is somewhat less than three meters wide, so is well within the width - did they mean height or length, I doubt the latter as that is pretty short, but height is the more likely, even so that truck is probably inside that limit. The article also mentions there being snow on the road, but there's no evidence of that. The real cause is more likely a big whoopsy by the driver, got the line wrong on one bend, panicked, backed up and dropped a wheel over the edge (and why was his second-man not guiding him back?) Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36596 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Or the shoulder of the road just decided that it had had enough. ;-) Cheers. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19364 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Bit more in a video, BBC - Truck spends three days dangling over China cliff |
Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3332 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 |
Unfit to be a parent... Mom put teenage son with COVID in trunk for drive-thru testing, Texas officials say While in line, the mom told the school district’s health service director that she drove to the stadium with her son in the trunk as she didn’t want to be exposed to the coronavirus while taking him to get additional testing... A review of school security surveillance cameras captured the moment the teen moved from the trunk to the back seat ... Police have since issued a warrant for the woman’s arrest... the woman faces a felony charge of endangering a child. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36596 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Damn some people can be lucky when it counts. Pilot of crashed plane rescued seconds before train smashes into wreckage. Proof that planes are even less effective against trains than cars are. Cheers. |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22502 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
An accident just waiting to happen: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-59939536 (Some people compare Tesla's self driving mode to an airliner on automatic pilot, but there is a big difference - airliner pilots have had way more recurrent training on the autopilot they use than the average Tesla driver who is simply shown how to turn self driving mode on and off....) Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30980 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
An accident just waiting to happen: But Matthew Avery, from the UK's Thatcham Research, said that well-designed driverless systems are theoretically safer than human drivers because they eliminate human error.Funny, humans write the software. Again, how does this prevent human error? |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13842 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Because as the last few years have shown, people aren't rational.But Matthew Avery, from the UK's Thatcham Research, said that well-designed driverless systems are theoretically safer than human drivers because they eliminate human error.Funny, humans write the software. Again, how does this prevent human error? So drivers tend to do incredibly stupid things (just look at the accidents involving Teslas and their Autopilot- it's there to assist the driver, not to actually drive the car. But because it can pretty much drive the car, many idiots let it do just that- even though the owner's manual says not to, over and over and over and over again...). So any reasonably well written & debugged software will make less mistakes & choose the better option when an issue arises than the average person will under the same situation. Grant Darwin NT |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13842 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
(Some people compare Tesla's self driving mode to an airliner on automatic pilot, but there is a big difference - airliner pilots have had way more recurrent training on the autopilot they use than the average Tesla driver who is simply shown how to turn self driving mode on and off....)Actually the big difference is that Pilots know that while the aircraft Auotpilot can pretty much fly the plane, it's actually there to help them fly the plane. They are still the one responsible for flying the plane. Tesla's Autopilot is the same, however many of the drivers just aren't that bright, and they ignore the instructions in the drivers manual (assuming they even looked at it) and instead of using the Autopilot for it's intended function- to help them drive - they stop driving the car themselves and leave it to the Autopilot to do. Really, Tesla's Autopilot is just like that of an aircraft- it's there to help the pilot/driver. Is it not there to take over from them (although Tesla are pushing hard with their fully autonomous driving mode which is a whole different kettle of fish). Grant Darwin NT |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19364 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Tesla in the U.S. in Octobers update added some features that might not be legal in all states and could not be incorporated in the UK. Staying in overtaking lane and not coming to a complete stop at road junctions. Tesla adds chill and assertive self-driving modes |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13842 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Tesla in the U.S. in Octobers update added some features that might not be legal in all states and could not be incorporated in the UK.Yeah, Rob linked to the same story. It shows that while autonomous vehicles can be much, much safer, if the programming is based on poor assumptions, they could be just as bad as humans (if not worse). Grant Darwin NT |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30980 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
So any reasonably well written & debugged software will make less mistakes & choose the better option when an issue arises than the average person will under the same situation. Boeing's MCAS. Tesla's autopilot that allows idiots to climb into the back seat. |
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