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Message 2082477 - Posted: 17 Aug 2021, 7:24:48 UTC - in response to Message 2082442.  
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Tesla made a big mistake by calling their adaptive cruise and control system "Autopilot" IMHO as it's certainly a misleading term in their case.
The problem is that it's an appropraite name- as in it performs the very same functions as an aircraft autopilot- it assists the driver/pilot of the car/aircraft.
It is not there to do all the work for them or to replace them, it is there to assist them to drive/fly the vehicle/aircraft.

The fact that many people are ignorant, and choose to remain so, means they probably would have been better served to call it Driver Assistant, even though calling it Auto Pilot is technically correct.
I downloaded a Tesla owners manual after previous accidents, and all through the manual where it goes through all of the Auto Pilot functions if repeatedly points out that the driver is the one in charge & responsible for the control of the car and needs to be ready to take back full control of the car at any time.
So for all of the incidents being investigated, the driver obviously either didn't bother reading the manual, or thought it didn't apply to them.
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Message 2082483 - Posted: 17 Aug 2021, 9:04:34 UTC - in response to Message 2082477.  

...or, as in at least one case, thought their car had Auto Pilot when it didn't. Apparently some Tesla have (or have had) the controls to activate/deactivate the Auto Pilot function in the display when the system is not installed, which strikes me as a somewhat lax situation if true.
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Message 2082510 - Posted: 17 Aug 2021, 14:56:03 UTC - in response to Message 2082483.  
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...or, as in at least one case, thought their car had Auto Pilot when it didn't. Apparently some Tesla have (or have had) the controls to activate/deactivate the Auto Pilot function in the display when the system is not installed, which strikes me as a somewhat lax situation if true.

Yes and sometimes dangerously so and all in the game of Marketing:

The trickery of making menu options visible but disabled/inoperative has long been exploited to hugely profitable effect. Infamously for just one example by such as "Microsoft Office" to add a 'nag factor' from users for their company to pay for (rarely used) extra functionality...


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Message 2082969 - Posted: 24 Aug 2021, 16:03:17 UTC

Good thing he wasn't flying anything larger...

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Message 2083075 - Posted: 26 Aug 2021, 16:42:07 UTC - in response to Message 2083074.  

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Message 2083848 - Posted: 6 Sep 2021, 19:56:42 UTC
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Message 2083851 - Posted: 6 Sep 2021, 20:21:09 UTC

Proof that rappers should never be let behind a wheel?

Rapper crashes flying Tesla into building.

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Message 2083856 - Posted: 6 Sep 2021, 22:04:44 UTC

Italian lunatic flies aeroplane through two motorway tunnels
Sponsor Red Bull supposedly gives you wings, but that doesn't mean you have to use them everywhere

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Message 2083857 - Posted: 6 Sep 2021, 22:11:24 UTC
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On a slightly related theme to my last post & linked to in previous article......
Wingwalker plane crashes in Poole Harbour after air festival display
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Message 2083884 - Posted: 7 Sep 2021, 9:23:13 UTC - in response to Message 2083852.  

In a world of increasing automation, the incident serves as a reminder of the importance of keeping a human backup in the loop.
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Message 2083894 - Posted: 7 Sep 2021, 13:57:28 UTC - in response to Message 2083884.  
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In a world of increasing automation, the incident serves as a reminder of the importance of keeping a human backup in the loop.

That example also highlights the dangers of a common mode fault due to using the same singular one design team/system/spec...

Looks like the hardware and design worked exactly as designed.

However: The source problem was (is?) a flawed design of the operating laws that introduces a discontinuity in the rules/programming being used at the critical moment of touchdown for landing!

Would you be happy about a change of pilots whereby the flying pilot has to get out of his seat to let the ground driving pilot take over?...


For my designer's personal view and opinion: Relaxing the monitoring tolerances is a kludge fix that need to be looked at again for a more robust solution!

... At least that one is a one-in-a-million landings real-world (honestly unexpected systems) fail that the pilots were able to recover from.


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Message 2084246 - Posted: 13 Sep 2021, 14:34:23 UTC

The Halo head and neck shield has saved the life of Lewis Hamilton when the car of Max Verstappen fell on Lewis's Mercedes. Many pilots were against this encumbrance but it proved useful.
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Message 2084258 - Posted: 13 Sep 2021, 19:59:09 UTC - in response to Message 2084246.  

The Halo head and neck shield has saved the life of Lewis Hamilton when the car of Max Verstappen fell on Lewis's Mercedes. Many pilots were against this encumbrance but it proved useful.
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Message 2084275 - Posted: 14 Sep 2021, 3:08:23 UTC

Homeless man sleeping on tracks hit by train in West 7th area of Fort Worth, police say
The man, who was experiencing homelessness, was sleeping on the tracks when the train arrived and couldn’t stop, police said.

The man may have suffered a broken right leg, authorities said.

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Message 2084818 - Posted: 23 Sep 2021, 2:18:49 UTC

Man Sick Of Speed Bumps Chops Them Up With A Pickaxe — Then Gets Slapped With $500 City Fine
BRIGHTON PARK Neighborhood, Chicago IL— Annoyed with the speed bumps in his Brighton Park alley, (The man) took matters into his own hands.

For about three weeks, he’s been hacking away at the decades-old asphalt speed bumps outside his garage in the alley off the 4200 block of South Mozart Street. It’s tedious work, all after he gets off of work — one swing of a pickaxe at a time.

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Message 2084877 - Posted: 23 Sep 2021, 20:01:22 UTC

How could he miss seeing the truck in front of him?

Toyota Camry drives straight into stopped truck in peculiar dashcam footage.

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Message 2084906 - Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 5:37:28 UTC - in response to Message 2084877.  

How could he miss seeing the truck in front of him?

Toyota Camry drives straight into stopped truck in peculiar dashcam footage.
Phone?
That gets my vote.


As happened yesterday afternoon to one of the blokes from work. He stopped at a roundabout to let the traffic already there go through, when he got hit from behind. Numb nuts was too busy with his phone to notice the car in front had stopped.
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