Radeon Software Crimson

Message boards : Number crunching : Radeon Software Crimson
Message board moderation

To post messages, you must log in.

Previous · 1 · 2 · 3 · 4 · 5 · 6 · Next

AuthorMessage
Iona
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 12 Jul 07
Posts: 790
Credit: 22,438,118
RAC: 0
United Kingdom
Message 1748995 - Posted: 13 Dec 2015, 20:42:25 UTC - in response to Message 1748712.  

Don't be so sure! I've got two R9 390s, that 'fall over' as soon as any real graphics work (as in gaming) is asked of them! Main-board flash, two different PSUs (HX850 and AXi860) three or four different drivers and......nope! So, back they will go for a full refund and it will have cost me about £40, for the privilege of banging my head against a brick wall - just like many others who bought them. I may well be defecting to the other side!
Don't take life too seriously, as you'll never come out of it alive!
ID: 1748995 · Report as offensive
Profile Mike Special Project $75 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 17 Feb 01
Posts: 33374
Credit: 79,922,639
RAC: 80
Germany
Message 1749007 - Posted: 13 Dec 2015, 21:42:40 UTC - in response to Message 1748995.  
Last modified: 13 Dec 2015, 21:42:59 UTC

Don't be so sure! I've got two R9 390s, that 'fall over' as soon as any real graphics work (as in gaming) is asked of them! Main-board flash, two different PSUs (HX850 and AXi860) three or four different drivers and......nope! So, back they will go for a full refund and it will have cost me about £40, for the privilege of banging my head against a brick wall - just like many others who bought them. I may well be defecting to the other side!


Which brand ?
I`m using a R9 380 without any issues.
With each crime and every kindness we birth our future.
ID: 1749007 · Report as offensive
Iona
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 12 Jul 07
Posts: 790
Credit: 22,438,118
RAC: 0
United Kingdom
Message 1749018 - Posted: 13 Dec 2015, 22:20:38 UTC - in response to Message 1749007.  
Last modified: 13 Dec 2015, 22:29:50 UTC

The two I have currently got are the famously voltage-locked Gigabyte 390X. Amongst all the grief I saw on various sites, including AMD's, just about every make was mentioned, but I don't recall anyone saying they had a Sapphire one with problems. I have a feeling that the issue is not the drivers! For the first time in years, I can afford to get lots of shiny new things and then find that the bulk of the cost, went on stuff that has lots of problems and AMD are no closer to sorting the problem out, than several months ago! There also seem to be similar problems with Fury cards - not good at all for AMD. I think my 'patience left the building', when I put the old 5850 back into my partner's PC and it just worked! My new build is now on hold and may end up being Nvidia powered ( 4GB GTX 970?).
Don't take life too seriously, as you'll never come out of it alive!
ID: 1749018 · Report as offensive
Profile Mike Special Project $75 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 17 Feb 01
Posts: 33374
Credit: 79,922,639
RAC: 80
Germany
Message 1749136 - Posted: 14 Dec 2015, 8:10:34 UTC

Thats the reasoni only use Spphire.
I never had problems with them.
Dirk Sadowsky is running 4 FuryX without issues as well.
With each crime and every kindness we birth our future.
ID: 1749136 · Report as offensive
Profile HAL9000
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 11 Sep 99
Posts: 6533
Credit: 196,805,888
RAC: 57
United States
Message 1749775 - Posted: 17 Dec 2015, 0:21:55 UTC - in response to Message 1749136.  

Thats the reasoni only use Spphire.
I never had problems with them.
Dirk Sadowsky is running 4 FuryX without issues as well.

I've only gone with Sapphire since ATI stopped making their own cards.

The R9 390x I got in October has been working well for me. Hopefully I'll be able to spool it up for 24/7 SETI@home use soon.
SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours
Join the BP6/VP6 User Group today!
ID: 1749775 · Report as offensive
Profile Sutaru Tsureku
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 6 Apr 07
Posts: 7105
Credit: 147,663,825
RAC: 5
Germany
Message 1750035 - Posted: 18 Dec 2015, 5:27:16 UTC - in response to Message 1749136.  
Last modified: 18 Dec 2015, 5:30:39 UTC

Mike wrote:
(...)
Dirk Sadowsky is running 4 FuryX without issues as well.


My four FuryX's (from PowerColor) PC is currently top host #5.
And this with just 1 WU/GPU.
More isn't possible with the currently driver.
Two Xeon's each with 6 CPU-Cores/12 threads, but HT off for faster GPU app calculation, so 12 CPU-Cores.
1 Core/GPU app, so 8 Cores crunch tasks.


BTW.
Crimson 15.12 is available. (at least for Win8.1 x64)
For some minutes installed, but it's the same v1912.5 driver like in Crimson v15.11 and v15.11.1 Beta.
So I guess still not 2+WUs/GPU possible, right?
ID: 1750035 · Report as offensive
Profile HAL9000
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 11 Sep 99
Posts: 6533
Credit: 196,805,888
RAC: 57
United States
Message 1750357 - Posted: 19 Dec 2015, 7:11:36 UTC - in response to Message 1750035.  

Mike wrote:
(...)
Dirk Sadowsky is running 4 FuryX without issues as well.


My four FuryX's (from PowerColor) PC is currently top host #5.
And this with just 1 WU/GPU.
More isn't possible with the currently driver.
Two Xeon's each with 6 CPU-Cores/12 threads, but HT off for faster GPU app calculation, so 12 CPU-Cores.
1 Core/GPU app, so 8 Cores crunch tasks.


BTW.
Crimson 15.12 is available. (at least for Win8.1 x64)
For some minutes installed, but it's the same v1912.5 driver like in Crimson v15.11 and v15.11.1 Beta.
So I guess still not 2+WUs/GPU possible, right?

It would depend on if the issue was in OpenCL or a different part of the driver. At the very best I would say only 50% chance it will let you run 2 wu/GPU. Probably no holiday present from them for you then :(
SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours
Join the BP6/VP6 User Group today!
ID: 1750357 · Report as offensive
woohoo
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 30 Oct 13
Posts: 972
Credit: 165,671,404
RAC: 5
United States
Message 1750364 - Posted: 19 Dec 2015, 8:41:26 UTC

I just installed 15.12 and BOINC gave me an error about suspicious pulse results when I tried running two WU/GPU.

So back to one WU/GPU for now.

I'm starting to think that one WU/GPU with 15.12 is faster than two WU/GPU on 14.4.

390x won't work with 14.4, the card is too now. I was running 15.7.1 for a while.
ID: 1750364 · Report as offensive
Profile Sutaru Tsureku
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 6 Apr 07
Posts: 7105
Credit: 147,663,825
RAC: 5
Germany
Message 1754875 - Posted: 8 Jan 2016, 16:09:18 UTC

Hm, OK, ..

Mike said he can let run 2 WUs/GPU on his R9 380.

With Crimson 15.12 I still can't run 2 WUs/GPU on my FuryX's (I was curious and tested it, but errors happened).

What will be with a HD7990 (dual GPU)?
Just 1 WU/GPU? Also, but it would be 'faster' (more productively) than with 2 WUs/GPU?

Thanks.
ID: 1754875 · Report as offensive
woohoo
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 30 Oct 13
Posts: 972
Credit: 165,671,404
RAC: 5
United States
Message 1754968 - Posted: 8 Jan 2016, 23:26:44 UTC

my guess is that 280/380/7990 are somewhat related and you can run multiple wu per gpu

my other guess is that 290/390/fiji are related and cannot run multiple wu per gpu on current drivers without errors

with 290x i was able to roll back driver to 14.4 and run multiple wu per gpu but it wasn't very fast. it seemed faster to just use a more recent driver and run just one wu per gpu

i tried running 390x with 14.4 but it doesn't work, either driver too old or card too new
ID: 1754968 · Report as offensive
Profile Mike Special Project $75 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 17 Feb 01
Posts: 33374
Credit: 79,922,639
RAC: 80
Germany
Message 1754970 - Posted: 8 Jan 2016, 23:37:11 UTC

Correct assumption Woohoo.
With each crime and every kindness we birth our future.
ID: 1754970 · Report as offensive
Profile Sutaru Tsureku
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 6 Apr 07
Posts: 7105
Credit: 147,663,825
RAC: 5
Germany
Message 1755943 - Posted: 13 Jan 2016, 4:59:37 UTC - in response to Message 1754968.  
Last modified: 13 Jan 2016, 5:00:11 UTC

woohoo wrote:
my guess is that 280/380/7990 are somewhat related and you can run multiple wu per gpu

my other guess is that 290/390/fiji are related and cannot run multiple wu per gpu on current drivers without errors

with 290x i was able to roll back driver to 14.4 and run multiple wu per gpu but it wasn't very fast. it seemed faster to just use a more recent driver and run just one wu per gpu

i tried running 390x with 14.4 but it doesn't work, either driver too old or card too new


Crimson 16.1 is available.

With 290/390/Fiji now 2 WUs/GPU possible?
Someone tested it already?

Thanks.
ID: 1755943 · Report as offensive
Profile Sutaru Tsureku
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 6 Apr 07
Posts: 7105
Credit: 147,663,825
RAC: 5
Germany
Message 1766658 - Posted: 21 Feb 2016, 9:18:46 UTC - in response to Message 1755943.  

Crimson 16.1.1 Hotfix (Beta) is available...

With 290/390/Fiji now 2 WUs/GPU possible?
Someone tested it already?

Thanks.
ID: 1766658 · Report as offensive
Profile HAL9000
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 11 Sep 99
Posts: 6533
Credit: 196,805,888
RAC: 57
United States
Message 1766699 - Posted: 21 Feb 2016, 15:32:26 UTC - in response to Message 1766658.  

Crimson 16.1.1 Hotfix (Beta) is available...

With 290/390/Fiji now 2 WUs/GPU possible?
Someone tested it already?

Thanks.

I don't use beta drives with with my current release my R9 390x averages 95% usage when running 1 task at a time. MB or AP. Is that the reason why running multi tasks not possible on R9 380 & R9 Fury?
SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours
Join the BP6/VP6 User Group today!
ID: 1766699 · Report as offensive
Profile Mike Special Project $75 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 17 Feb 01
Posts: 33374
Credit: 79,922,639
RAC: 80
Germany
Message 1766760 - Posted: 21 Feb 2016, 21:36:26 UTC - in response to Message 1766699.  
Last modified: 21 Feb 2016, 21:37:50 UTC

Crimson 16.1.1 Hotfix (Beta) is available...

With 290/390/Fiji now 2 WUs/GPU possible?
Someone tested it already?

Thanks.

I don't use beta drives with with my current release my R9 390x averages 95% usage when running 1 task at a time. MB or AP. Is that the reason why running multi tasks not possible on R9 380 & R9 Fury?


No.
I`m running 2 instances on my R9 380 and have only little issues.
On 2 or 3 taks a day buffer seems to break out of a sudden.
I could reduce errors with alpha app but i dont think it helps for the 390 and Fury`s.
I have tried Einstein for a couple hours and exactly the same happens there.
So we are almost certain its not app related.
With each crime and every kindness we birth our future.
ID: 1766760 · Report as offensive
Chris Adamek
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 15 May 99
Posts: 251
Credit: 434,772,072
RAC: 236
United States
Message 1766764 - Posted: 21 Feb 2016, 21:59:37 UTC - in response to Message 1766760.  

There is an alpha app for the ATI? Or are you referring to the petri's for the Duda cards? I haven't tried any of the new ATI drivers. Just been sitting with the 14x release. Of course the Mac has mystery drivers for it, but it seems happy enough with 2 at a time as well.

Thanks,

Chris
ID: 1766764 · Report as offensive
Profile HAL9000
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 11 Sep 99
Posts: 6533
Credit: 196,805,888
RAC: 57
United States
Message 1766765 - Posted: 21 Feb 2016, 22:18:32 UTC - in response to Message 1766760.  
Last modified: 21 Feb 2016, 22:18:55 UTC

Crimson 16.1.1 Hotfix (Beta) is available...

With 290/390/Fiji now 2 WUs/GPU possible?
Someone tested it already?

Thanks.

I don't use beta drives with with my current release my R9 390x averages 95% usage when running 1 task at a time. MB or AP. Is that the reason why running multi tasks not possible on R9 380 & R9 Fury?


No.
I`m running 2 instances on my R9 380 and have only little issues.
On 2 or 3 taks a day buffer seems to break out of a sudden.
I could reduce errors with alpha app but i dont think it helps for the 390 and Fury`s.
I have tried Einstein for a couple hours and exactly the same happens there.
So we are almost certain its not app related.

Ok I wasn't sure if it was because the GPU was already reporting to be fully loaded. So no gain by running more than 1 task at a time.
The only other project I have tried on my 390x is Poem@home. It averages about 90%, but the usage is a lot more off/on, like a square wave. Where SETI@home apps tend to run in the 85-100% range. I was expecting to see lower usage numbers for the 390, but I guess it operates a bit differently.
SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours
Join the BP6/VP6 User Group today!
ID: 1766765 · Report as offensive
Profile Mike Special Project $75 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 17 Feb 01
Posts: 33374
Credit: 79,922,639
RAC: 80
Germany
Message 1766780 - Posted: 21 Feb 2016, 23:07:13 UTC - in response to Message 1766764.  

There is an alpha app for the ATI? Or are you referring to the petri's for the Duda cards? I haven't tried any of the new ATI drivers. Just been sitting with the 14x release. Of course the Mac has mystery drivers for it, but it seems happy enough with 2 at a time as well.

Thanks,

Chris


Yes, i`m testing it in a long run atm.
But not available for public use atm.
With each crime and every kindness we birth our future.
ID: 1766780 · Report as offensive
Gerry

Send message
Joined: 29 May 15
Posts: 84
Credit: 4,956,983
RAC: 0
Switzerland
Message 1766858 - Posted: 22 Feb 2016, 9:14:55 UTC - in response to Message 1766658.  

im trying the new vulcan beta drivers today, my 2 290x's would not do multiple WU's with any other drivers except 14.4 ..that seems to have changed,i tried all crimson versions ,non worked...this vulcan beta seems to be working,and much faster!..fingers crossed.. will try it on my 2 280x's also later today and see
ID: 1766858 · Report as offensive
Profile Sutaru Tsureku
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 6 Apr 07
Posts: 7105
Credit: 147,663,825
RAC: 5
Germany
Message 1768613 - Posted: 29 Feb 2016, 16:04:05 UTC
Last modified: 29 Feb 2016, 16:25:00 UTC

Crimson 16.2 Hotfix (Beta) is available...

(It looks like still the 1912.5 driver included.)

With 290/390/Fiji now 2 WUs/GPU possible?
Someone tested it already?


Vulkan Software
http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Radeon-Vulkan-Beta.aspx
(...)

  • This product is based on a published Khronos specification but has not yet passed the Khronos Conformance Test Process. A fully conformant implementation of the Vulkan API will be included in a forthcoming Radeon Software release.
  • This driver is intended as beta level support for use solely with Vulkan applications and as such some Radeon Software functionality has been removed. This is including and not limited to support for other Graphics APIs, Radeon Settings and other Radeon Software driver features.


(...)


It looks like here a 2004.3 driver is included.
(If Gerry is using this software...)

From the file names, the Crimson is from Feb/23 the Vulkan from Feb/25.


Which software would be better for SETI crunching?
The Crimson 16.2 or the Vulkan 16.15.1009 Beta 5 (this is just a part of 'Crimson', right?)?


Thanks.
ID: 1768613 · Report as offensive
Previous · 1 · 2 · 3 · 4 · 5 · 6 · Next

Message boards : Number crunching : Radeon Software Crimson


 
©2022 University of California
 
SETI@home and Astropulse are funded by grants from the National Science Foundation, NASA, and donations from SETI@home volunteers. AstroPulse is funded in part by the NSF through grant AST-0307956.