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moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0
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One would think there should be an abundance of axions everywhere in the Universe, even in our Solar system. The mass of one axion is thought to be only of order 10^11 times the electron mass. That's a LOT of axions where they may account for the dark matter. There are probably more of them in certain regions but anyway... So why try to detect them perhaps several lightyears from here? And there are already ongoing experiments. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axion#Experiments |
Gary Charpentier ![]() Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31611 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32
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Physics World is scarcely a 'tabloid' publication. It's distributed to members of one of the largest physical societies in the world. I went back and it talks about the caustic ring as being part of the galactic halo, not near at all. So I looked up caustic rings https://arxiv.org/pdf/astro-ph/9705038.pdf In this case the Milky Way caustic rings are at the radii: 41, 20,13, 10, 8.0, 6.7, 5.8, 5.1, 4.5, 4.0, 3.7, 3.4, 3.1 ... kpcA kpc kiloparsec is approximately 3262 light-years so possibly an experiment thousands of years long consuming MWyears of power or build a small nuke power plant just to run the experiment. Perhaps not a tabloid publication but a tabloid article. |
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Michael Watson Send message Joined: 7 Feb 08 Posts: 1391 Credit: 2,098,506 RAC: 5 |
The paper linked above is over 20 years old. More recent work indicates that there appears to be a caustic ring much nearer Earth. I don't believe that a reputable journal, like Physics World, would publish a sensationalistic or misleading paper. I think it unfortunate to suggest otherwise, without a very substantial basis for doing so. |
Gary Charpentier ![]() Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31611 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32
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The paper linked above is over 20 years old. More recent work indicates that there appears to be a caustic ring much nearer Earth. I don't believe that a reputable journal, like Physics World, would publish a sensationalistic or misleading paper. I think it unfortunate to suggest otherwise, without a very substantial basis for doing so. Michael, I was testing your knowledge, and you fail. Look up the distance of the sun from the Galactic center. Compare with the distances of these hypothetical caustic rings from that 20 year old paper. Then realize that the hypothesis of the caustic ring locations in the Milky Way is extrapolated from a single datum. If there are other papers that have looked at other galactic rotation curves and found caustic rings as a solution, they did not come up in my search. In any case the article's author didn't list a single cite in what you linked. It isn't bad science, it is tabloid science a/k/a I published a paper this year, give me salary for next year. BTW there are several papers out there indicating pressure waves as a likely source for the differences in density of the galactic medium. |
Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 4548 Credit: 35,667,570 RAC: 4
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moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0
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If axions do exist and make up most of dark matter, their mass should be within the region of 50 to 1,500 microelectronvolts (μeV/c2) – up to ten billion times lighter than the electron (~0.51MeV/c2). Using this estimate, every cubic centimetre of the universe contains 10 million of these super light-weight particles on average when it's only about 2 atoms in the same space on average. But because dark matter is kept in clumps that form web-like structures, the local region of the Milky Way should have about one trillion axions per cubic centimetre. But that's not by far enough to make up to the total mass of Dark Matter. Perhaps they are in "Dark Stars", bizarre, star-like objects that act like single, giant atoms, as some suggests. https://www.livescience.com/63977-axion-stars-form-quickly.html https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.121.151301 |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123
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Dark matter secrets could lie buried in ancient rocks on Earth https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24132200-100-dark-matter-secrets-could-lie-buried-in-ancient-rocks-on-earth/ |
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moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0
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Are Dark Matter And Dark Energy The Same? According to some scientists it is but then you have to include negative mass particles... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miGddxrvmDU Jamie Farnes, astrophysicist at Oxford just published a paper suggesting that both dark energy and dark matter may result from the same phenomenon. And it’s pretty wild: negative mass particles continuously popping into existence between the galaxies. This rather extravagant claim resulted in a hysterical response from the media. Our viewers’ perfect blend of bright-eyed curiosity and cynical skepticism led to many MANY requests for us to do an episode on this new result. You got it. Today on Space Time Journal Club, let’s pick apart J.S. Farnes 2018, “A unifying theory of dark energy and dark matter: Negative masses and matter creation within a modified Lambda-CDM frameworkâ€. |
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