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Message 1743891 - Posted: 21 Nov 2015, 17:50:58 UTC - in response to Message 1743889.  

This is exactly what terrorist want us to do:(

Oh do be sensible! if you were the authorities in any country you would be doing two things. Firstly making every effort to minimise any threat to life to the public from terrorism. That means giving sensible advice upon how to avoid possible dangerous situations. Secondly you would be working behind the scenes to minimise that danger via the security services.

It sounds to me that the Belgian authorities may have information that gives them cause to think an attack may be likely or possible. In which case they are behaving perfectly correctly.

You have to balance public safety against playing into the terrorists hands. You could say that the more the public get inconvenienced, the more they will lobby their governments to do something about it.

What planet are you on? Janne was right, they have won. That's how terrorism works. 1st a few attacks/bombs then consistently make threats, thereby tying up the emergency services/armed forces (if necessary).

Forgotten the IRA already have we?
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Message 1743902 - Posted: 21 Nov 2015, 18:56:56 UTC - in response to Message 1743889.  
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This is exactly what terrorist want us to do:(

Oh do be sensible! if you were the authorities in any country you would be doing two things. Firstly making every effort to minimise any threat to life to the public from terrorism. That means giving sensible advice upon how to avoid possible dangerous situations. Secondly you would be working behind the scenes to minimise that danger via the security services.

It sounds to me that the Belgian authorities may have information that gives them cause to think an attack may be likely or possible. In which case they are behaving perfectly correctly.

You have to balance public safety against playing into the terrorists hands. You could say that the more the public get inconvenienced, the more they will lobby their governments to do something about it.

The increased readiness is noticeable on the streets of the Belgian capital, says Tobias Pålsson from Malmö who work for the MEP Anna Maria Corazza Bildt.
Paris is just 1.5 hours drive away and therefore feels the terror attacks very closely.
- It's a little scary when you read in the media that there are people living in Brussels who has been linked to Paris attacks, and that the police have not found the wanted people.
Despite the terrorist threat Tobias PÃ¥lsson and his friends are trying to live as normally as possible. They talk about the increased threat and discuss how they can combat the problem.
- Nobody wants to take risks, no one wants to see a new Paris act. Everyone is on their toes and trips around and waiting for what will happen, but it is all very calm. People agree that terrorists should not be allowed to strike fear in our lives. Then they have won.


What state of emergency means for France
http://www.thelocal.fr/20151115/what-will-the-state-of-emergency-mean

A scary thing is that so few people (20?) can almost close down two major European cities.
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Message 1743906 - Posted: 21 Nov 2015, 19:15:05 UTC - in response to Message 1743891.  
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This is exactly what terrorist want us to do:(

Oh do be sensible! if you were the authorities in any country you would be doing two things. Firstly making every effort to minimise any threat to life to the public from terrorism. That means giving sensible advice upon how to avoid possible dangerous situations. Secondly you would be working behind the scenes to minimise that danger via the security services.

It sounds to me that the Belgian authorities may have information that gives them cause to think an attack may be likely or possible. In which case they are behaving perfectly correctly.

You have to balance public safety against playing into the terrorists hands. You could say that the more the public get inconvenienced, the more they will lobby their governments to do something about it.

What planet are you on? Janne was right, they have won. That's how terrorism works. 1st a few attacks/bombs then consistently make threats, thereby tying up the emergency services/armed forces (if necessary).

Forgotten the IRA already have we?

I remember London in the early 80's.
Only the day before I came there IRA had hit a pub with a bomb in central London.
We passed that pub with our bus from the airport and that made me wonder.
But London didn't close down the city because of that.
Business as usual...

oh btw.
I was at the local store this evening and met some muslims in their 20's there.
One wearing a hood and a black mask hiding his face.
His companions was not masked but should I worry?
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Message 1743916 - Posted: 21 Nov 2015, 20:30:30 UTC - in response to Message 1743891.  

This is exactly what terrorist want us to do:(

Oh do be sensible! if you were the authorities in any country you would be doing two things. Firstly making every effort to minimise any threat to life to the public from terrorism. That means giving sensible advice upon how to avoid possible dangerous situations. Secondly you would be working behind the scenes to minimise that danger via the security services.

It sounds to me that the Belgian authorities may have information that gives them cause to think an attack may be likely or possible. In which case they are behaving perfectly correctly.

You have to balance public safety against playing into the terrorists hands. You could say that the more the public get inconvenienced, the more they will lobby their governments to do something about it.

What planet are you on? Janne was right, they have won. That's how terrorism works. 1st a few attacks/bombs then consistently make threats, thereby tying up the emergency services/armed forces (if necessary).

Forgotten the IRA already have we?

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The fear mongers are doing a very good job selling fear. They have so many convinced if a jihadist lays a glance upon them they are dead. Sounds about the the fable of Medusa.
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Message 1743938 - Posted: 21 Nov 2015, 23:52:46 UTC - in response to Message 1743918.  
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The British have more backbone than many in this world.

True. The British are "used" to terrorist attacks for decades.
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Message 1743948 - Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 0:41:57 UTC - in response to Message 1743939.  
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I do agree that we cannot surrender to The Terrorists.
But...
The Jihadists are a far greater threat, in 'Orders of magnitude', than The IRA ever was.
Therefore... Our 'response' must also be greater in 'Orders of magnitude'.

'Orders of magnitude'?
As far I know more people have been killed by IRA then by muslim extremists in Britain. But not by magnitudes.
If you look at all other European countries there is not so many people killed by muslims in terrorist attacks that you could say that is in orders of magnitude.
Daesh has now perhaps killed about 100,000 persons in the world, the very most of them in the Middle East.
Anybody know how many Daesh has killed that is non-muslim?
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Message 1744052 - Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 16:41:48 UTC - in response to Message 1744048.  

Britain is to buy 138 stealth fighter F35 jets in a £12bn deal that will treble the firepower of the UK’s two new aircraft carriers and put the country on a “full war footing” in the Middle East for a generation.

George Osborne reveals today that the centrepiece of the government’s strategic defence review, to be unveiled tomorrow, will be a commitment to give Britain the world’s second most potent carrier strike force after the United States. In an interview with The Sunday Times, the chancellor said Britain should put aside its qualms about military intervention and be prepared to “project our values” around the world.

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Hmmm, 2 things wrong with that statemet: - Previous SDR scapped our carriers leaving Britain without any air cover/strike capabilities at sea until 2020 at least. Secondly, it was Britain "projecting" its values on the world that caused this mess in the first place.

I know which planet all of us are living on, unfortunately I can't speak for some individuals.

You can't speak for no one but yourself, time you did that.
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Message 1744056 - Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 17:10:49 UTC

Time to 'Bomb The Hell Out of Them'.

Do 'it', as Done in WWII. Flatten Cities. Do The Gen. 'LeMay' Thang to 'em. All Conventional will Do 'it' GOoD, Real GOoD.

No Warnings. Every Place 'They' Are.

Make sure All 'Bodies' Moving Outward from Cities Get 'it' Also.

'Shock' and 'Ouch'. aka The Real 'Hurt'.

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!
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Message 1744061 - Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 17:15:28 UTC - in response to Message 1744052.  

Britain is to buy 138 stealth fighter F35 jets in a £12bn deal that will treble the firepower of the UK’s two new aircraft carriers and put the country on a “full war footing” in the Middle East for a generation.

George Osborne reveals today that the centrepiece of the government’s strategic defence review, to be unveiled tomorrow, will be a commitment to give Britain the world’s second most potent carrier strike force after the United States. In an interview with The Sunday Times, the chancellor said Britain should put aside its qualms about military intervention and be prepared to “project our values” around the world.

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Hmmm, 2 things wrong with that statemet: - Previous SDR scapped our carriers leaving Britain without any air cover/strike capabilities at sea until 2020 at least. Secondly, it was Britain "projecting" its values on the world that caused this mess in the first place.

British taxpayer will like this:)
New US fighter jet on course to becoming ‘one of history’s biggest white elephants’
The UK considered buying 150 F-35s from the US, but not one plane is combat ready as costs soar.
The F-35 is still far from ready to fly in combat and the cost of a single jet has risen from £33m to £87m!
Still engine problem.
Lighter-weight pilots face a “high” risk of danger, and the risk is deemed “serious” for mid-weight pilots, according to an internal risk assessment of the problem with the ejector seats.
The pilot helmet that cost more than $400,000 have problem with a jittery image.
Tests has shown that old F-16's are more agile and can outmanouver F-35.

Even in the US the project is not liked because of the rising costs.
Donald Trump said that if he would become president he will scrap the project.

Good luck UK and back to Paris.
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Message 1744070 - Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 18:07:53 UTC - in response to Message 1744048.  
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Britain is to buy 138 stealth fighter F35 jets in a £12bn deal
My friend Tony thanks you for keeping him employed.
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Message 1744071 - Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 18:08:29 UTC - in response to Message 1744064.  
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The UK considered buying 150 F-35s from the US, but not one plane is combat ready as costs soar.

combat ready

Forgot to give link to sources.
It turns out the Marine Corps' new F-35B joint strike fighter jet isn't as battle-ready as officials claim, according to a report published by a government watchdog group.
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/2015/09/15/dod-report-claims-marine-f-35b-not-ready-combat/72332738/
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/new-us-fighter-jet-on-course-to-becoming-one-of-history-s-biggest-white-elephants-10238761.html
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Message 1744088 - Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 19:49:37 UTC

I still ponder whether these extremists are acting completely on their own or are they being manipulated by an outside entity or entities that stands to profit from the results of their actions.
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My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.
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Message 1744105 - Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 21:16:30 UTC - in response to Message 1744090.  

They are simply religious extremists Bob, nothing more.

Like any organizer of a religion, they seek to fleece the flock they create. If in their case that is four wives and a bunch of slaves in a harem or a personal power trip, it doesn't matter.

I don't think there is any corporate interest being served, except the arms dealers.
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Message 1744127 - Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 23:14:23 UTC - in response to Message 1744105.  

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Message 1744134 - Posted: 23 Nov 2015, 0:12:42 UTC

..& their shareholders.
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Message 1744152 - Posted: 23 Nov 2015, 2:49:04 UTC

We should all remember than a lot of Daesh fighters are well educated and I'm wondering if it's part of the strategy to get us to turn on innocent Muslims and then that will feed there propaganda machine and things will escalate .

These nutters I believe are trying to bring on the "End of Days " B/S as it is in the Koran

The west I fear has become very predicable in our actions and they are playing on that .

France now Belgium declaring Marshall law is what they want us to do as well as ostracise the Muslims .

The French and Belgians should not be declaring Marshall law .

I did expect the French to do that thou , they tend to over react and then when it goes wrong pull out and say "US , we had nothing to do with it"

AKA: Africa and the foreign legion and what has happened over the years there let's hope they have learnt
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Message 1744157 - Posted: 23 Nov 2015, 3:15:02 UTC - in response to Message 1744156.  

Mister No Name did you miss the fact that the master mind behind the Paris attack was educated where ????

Muslim refugees are Doctors , Engineers and such !!!

Muslims do have good education even if many are brain washed with the Koran and Jihadi stuff.

You may wish to look where modern Physic's started and whom wrote the first language .

You would also wish to look at what Muslims have introduced over the centuries and we have adopted

Or keep being a meat head making silly statements .I'll leave that choice for you
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Message 1744161 - Posted: 23 Nov 2015, 3:49:11 UTC - in response to Message 1744160.  

You are conflating Daesh with all Muslims.
I suspect that Daesh cowards are the dregs of society.
While there may be a few leaders with some education, there is no evidence that a lot of Daesh cowards are well educated.

You do make a good substitute for CLYDE in that you'll insult anyone who calls your BS.


Well if you think there all dummy's then please explain why they are winning at the moment .

The foot solders mite be grunts but not so much the Leaders
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Message 1744218 - Posted: 23 Nov 2015, 8:22:26 UTC

Just when we think we have won it will start up somewhere else and then go back to the first country like a see saw .

The secret to this type of tactic is the more we persecute Muslims the worse it will get .

Europe is in a lot of trouble now ....

What will Germany do now if they strike there ?

How many have come in . Will we see the Camps ! return
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Message 1744230 - Posted: 23 Nov 2015, 9:33:29 UTC - in response to Message 1744228.  

Chris the fact you have posted it is there propaganda . If they didn't get those guys in France then that vid would have worked
Until there's boots on the ground and a rebuild of there country nee jerk reactions wont help

I'm more worried about Europe and any backlash to those refugees already there and there is a lot .
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