French Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian has asked his ministerial colleagues in the EU for help with the country's military operations abroad, as well as support in the struggle against extremist movement IS in Syria, Iraq and African countries.
- France can not act alone in these areas, Le Drian said during the meeting in Brussels, reports the AFP news agency.

I was held hostage by Isis. They fear our unity more than our airstrikes
At the moment there is no political road map and no plan to engage the Arab Sunni community. Isis will collapse, but politics will make that happen. In the meantime there is much we can achieve in the aftermath of this atrocity, and the key is strong hearts and resilience, for that is what they fear. I know them: bombing they expect. What they fear is unity.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/16/isis-bombs-hostage-syria-islamic-state-paris-attacks?CMP=share_btn_tw

Washington Post says From 2004 to 2014, over 2,000 terror suspects legally purchased guns in the United States

The guns and bombs used, are being used, will be used in Europe, are legal?

Difference?

Ask the murdered in Paris.

In Europe it's more easy to buy illegal weapons then legal ones.
And bombs you make yourself as they did in Belgium before the Paris attack.
And ISIS Has Help Desk for Terrorists Staffed Around the Clock.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/paris-terror-attacks/isis-has-help-desk-terrorists-staffed-around-clock-n464391

Washington Post says From 2004 to 2014, over 2,000 terror suspects legally purchased guns in the United States

Given France's strict gun laws, the terrorists who attacked Paris on Friday may have turned to black market sources for the weapons they used. But in the United States, known and suspected terrorists are allowed to purchase firearms under federal law.

"Membership in a terrorist organization does not prohibit a person from possessing firearms or explosives under current federal law," the Government Accountability Office concluded in 2010. The law prohibits felons, fugitives, drug addicts and domestic abusers from purchasing a firearm in the United States. But people on the FBI's consolidated terrorist watchlist — typically placed there when there is "reasonable suspicion" that they are a known or suspected terrorist — can freely purchase handguns or assault-style rifles.

And, as the GAO found, a number of them do: Between 2004 and 2014, suspected terrorists attempted to purchase guns from American dealers at least 2,233 times. And in 2,043 of those cases — 91 percent of the time — they succeeded. There are about 700,000 people on the watch-list — a point that civil libertarians have made to underscore that many on the list may be family members or acquaintances of people with potential terrorist connections.

Until you are a convict you have your rights. It must be a great uplifting freedom to know that you live where a typo can strip you of your rights.

Yes, America has a crazy control problem. Membership in a terror organization should be a mental disease or defect.

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Hi Bob, well exactly!

At Munich, in 1938, France and Britain agreed to give Hitler the Sudetenland. Chamberlain waves 'a piece of paper' with Hitler's statement that he does not want to go to war. In 1939, Czechoslovakia was invaded, then later in 1939 Poland was invaded. In September 1939 war was declared upon Germany.

Chamberlain was duped and lied to, but at the time in 1938 the British people wanted peace - they would not have supported a war then. Chamberlain wanted a strong Germany to serve as a barrier against expansion by communist Russia. Britain's armed forces were also not ready for a war, and they could not have helped Czechoslovakia anyway if they had been.

The situation today with ISIS is quite different from back then.

Appeasemet is just that. Where is the difference? Our forces cut to the bone, police numbers reduced...

...I see further down your attack on Clyde, your B/S equals his if not worse.

Membership in a terror organization should be a mental disease or defect.

I think its a problem with some terror organizations.
IS is also a religious organization.
Excluding members of religious organizations are unconstitutional.

I don't see anything funny about the Paris attack. Perhaps you could enlighten me upon what I appear have missed. We laugh at Janne, not with him.

Who are we?
What have I to do with the Paris attacks?

I don't see anything funny about the Paris attack. Perhaps you could enlighten me upon what I appear have missed. We laugh at Janne, not with him.

Who are we?
What have I to do with the Paris attacks?

Ignore "Professor S" Janne, he likes throwing out garbage but as seen too many times, when forced to pick it up, throws schoolboy tandrums. Just laugh at him & move on :-)

Please try to keep the posts about the subject, and not about each other.

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The mind is a weird and mysterious place

Membership in a terror organization should be a mental disease or defect.

Ummm Gary it is so much more than that. Most terror organisations are religion based in some way, therefore we are talking extremist fanatics that have been indoctrinated, probably since birth, or had their heads turned at an impressionable age. It is not fair to count all peaceful religious extremists as being mentally ill. We Get the JW's around here, yes they are extreme with their views, but not escaped from the funny farm!

Chriis, it isn't the religion. The terrorism mental disease or defect is the belief that they can force others to think and do as they preach. Although belief in a mythical man in the sky is likely a serious mental problem, it doesn't have to be used, yet, to prevent gun sales. Although it if prevented the right wing extremist christians in this country from arming themselves it would be a good thing.

America has a crazy control problem.

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Please try to keep the posts about the subject, and not about each other.

Sadly, that is the topic Gordon. How can those who attack each other sprout B/S about groups like IS?

Before one can debate sensibly about terrorism, one should be able to debate amongst oneselves without the need to sprout B/S or attack others because their views are alien to theirs.

While that continues worldwide...

Membership in a terror organization should be a mental disease or defect.

I think its a problem with some terror organizations.
IS is also a religious organization.
Excluding members of religious organizations are unconstitutional.

Finally... Some needed humor.

Hehe:)
Religion can be funny.
IS however are not funny.
They have hijacked islam for goals to me unknown.
Yes. Creating the Caliphate but why?

Daesh is a Death Cult.
It's a cult that draws converts from Islamic culture and religion.
al-Baghdadi is no more Muslim than David Koresh or Jim Jones were Christians,
They were all just insane people who hijacked the culture they grew up in.
al-Baghdadi is'nt dead yet but i'm sure he soon will be to enjoy 72 virgin male goats in Daesh Heaven.
Pity the goats.

They'll substituting 72 Virginians instead...

Hmmm.

You all realise that in an Islamic state run by ISIS publishing those cartoons would most likely cause you to lose your head, literally.

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

America has a crazy control problem.

To the rest of the world looking in from the outside yes it does, but they cannot see it, which isn't surprising.

Actually most of them can see it Chris, but there is this 20-30% of them that can't accept the facts and wish to continue their war mongering ways and it's those 20-30% that are holding back a whole country. ;-)

Cheers.

You all realise that in an Islamic state run by ISIS publishing those cartoons would most likely cause you to lose your head, literally.

Not to mention having anything that could display the human form, art, movies, music, all forbidden.

True.
Fatwa declared against snowmen made to look like camels and Arabs in Saudi as they 'represent Western values'
Snow in Saudi Arabia saw Saudis eagerly building snowmen
But a religious scholar has decreed that snowmen are an insult to Islam
Mohammed Saleh Al Minjed decreed living creatures cannot be recreated
The ruling says that inanimate objects - and food - can be replicated
Saudis took to social media to voice their dismay at the ruling

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2906866/They-ve-really-got-hump-Fatwa-declared-against-snowmen-look-like-camels-Arabs-Saudi-represent-Western-values.html

it isn't the religion. The terrorism mental disease or defect is the belief that they can force others to think and do as they preach.

Gary, I would contend that it is a combination of the two. Religious fanatics are those that think their particular religion is the only one in the world worth following, and get unreasonably cross and upset when they can't "convert" other people to their way of life. The terrorists problem is that they get even more angry and use violence and terror to "enforce" their view. It is at that point that it becomes an obsession or a disease.

You are assuming the only method people wish to force others to do as they say is because of religion. Charles Manson wasn't using religion. Nor was Mao. Kim certainly doesn't. However religion is a easy way to mobilize large masses as you don't have to start the indoctrination from scratch to get followers fast.

Although belief in a mythical man in the sky is likely a serious mental problem

In which case 90% of the world that follow a religion would have to be classed as insane!!

Is that a bad thing?

I think you will also find a very large number of that 90% is not 100% convinced there is a mythical man in the sky. Most of them are at least in part agnostic. As such at least part of the time they have a grip on reality.

America has a crazy control problem.

To the rest of the world looking in from the outside yes it does, but they cannot see it, which isn't surprising.

They can, but divide for political ploy is in effect in addition to massive suspicion of ulterior motives. Not even the most ardent NRA member wants a crazy with a gun. However they are worried wanting a gun will be classed as crazy. With the political environment in the USA today ...

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Just nuke them all down there... you can't reason with them.

Didn't somebody try a "final solution" for a different faith last century? Not sure that direction is any more sensible now than it was then.

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

Didn't somebody try a "final solution" for a different faith last century?

Bobby please talk to Clyde....

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Just nuke them all down there... you can't reason with them.

Didn't somebody try a "final solution" for a different faith last century? Not sure that direction is any more sensible now than it was then.

I think the current issue in the mid-east is a replay of WWI which spawned that solution too.

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