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Message 1738599 - Posted: 31 Oct 2015, 17:25:23 UTC

I have no project screensaver graphics since update to El Capitain. Always had it with Yosemite.

Seti@home v7 7.07 (ssse3)

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Show Graphics button greyed out also.
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Message 1738763 - Posted: 1 Nov 2015, 12:29:47 UTC - in response to Message 1738599.  

Same here...
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Message 1740910 - Posted: 9 Nov 2015, 19:07:26 UTC - in response to Message 1738599.  

I have no project screensaver graphics since update to El Capitain. Always had it with Yosemite.

Seti@home v7 7.07 (ssse3)

Boinc 7.6.12

Show Graphics button greyed out also.
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Message 1743212 - Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 22:13:00 UTC - in response to Message 1738763.  

Same here...

According to your task list, you are running Seti tasks on your ATI Radeon HD 5770 GPU. GPU applications do not have graphic applications at this project, only CPU applications have them. So only CPU tasks can show the graphics.
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Message 1743213 - Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 22:14:22 UTC - in response to Message 1740910.  

I have no project screensaver graphics since update to El Capitain. Always had it with Yosemite.

According to your task list, you are running Seti tasks on your INTEL Iris (1536MB) GPU. GPU applications do not have graphic applications at this project, only CPU applications have them. So only CPU tasks can show the graphics.
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Message 1743366 - Posted: 19 Nov 2015, 17:50:38 UTC - in response to Message 1743213.  

I have no project screensaver graphics since update to El Capitain. Always had it with Yosemite.

According to your task list, you are running Seti tasks on your INTEL Iris (1536MB) GPU. GPU applications do not have graphic applications at this project, only CPU applications have them. So only CPU tasks can show the graphics.



Well no thats not fully correct, they have dumped the graphics acording to another thread.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=78270

"Hello everyone.

New applications were release for the Mac recently.

These provided better computations on the work units as well as more diversity in which resources could be used to crunch the data (ie...CPU vs Nvidia graphic vs onboard graphic of the Intel chip)

As part of the new applications, a decision was made to remove the graphic portion (show graphic) in order to get optimization of the application.

Only the very older and much slower CPU applications still have graphics display. Since these tend to be less efficient, eventually BOINC will decide not to run these in favor of the new and faster apps.

The upgrade to El Capitan has nothing to do with the loss of the "show graphics"

Apologies if this has caused any distress to a user who misses the graphics display."
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Message 1743370 - Posted: 19 Nov 2015, 18:19:21 UTC - in response to Message 1743366.  

Since BOINC 6.0, science applications and graphics application were separate from each other. Before that time the graphics portion was included in the science application.

The GPU applications at this project have never had the separate graphics application. That was because when Nvidia helped porting the science application to the GPU, they were only interested in getting the science app portion working, the rest was up to the BOINC and Seti developers.

Zalster, whose post you quote, isn't a developer but a volunteer user just as you and I are. Sadly he does get his facts wrong at times. The Lunatics developers did develop more optimized applications for Seti, that part is true. And for the optimized anonymous platform applications it's true they don't include the graphics applications. You have to install these applications manually and keep them up to date yourself.

We however are talking about the stock applications, which for the CPU do come with the graphics application. That is, as long as Eric Korpela has included them with the correct name and made them available for download. I know for a fact for instance that the Astropulse applications for Windows do not come with their graphics application counterpart, but all the Multibeam applications do.

Eric has got this on his long to do list to get fixed. Meanwhilst he has also promised me to look into adding the graphics application counterpart for the GPU applications. But that'll take a while


You should also notice that I only answered Bob and coak in this thread, not you. Bob and coak are running the tasks on their GPUs, you are running them on your CPUs only. Your problem I forwarded to the developer of the Macintosh BOINC version and science applications. He's still looking into a lot of problems with El Capitano + BOINC.

It seems with every next release of OS X Apple manages to break BOINC and science apps, without regard for the software developers.
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Message 1743403 - Posted: 19 Nov 2015, 21:27:30 UTC - in response to Message 1743370.  
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Sorry,Ageless, thought you quoted me..my bad. Thanks for the info, yes my original post was about CPU tasks. And yes BOINC and OS X have always been a gamble each update.
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Message 1743410 - Posted: 19 Nov 2015, 21:46:32 UTC - in response to Message 1743403.  
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You can check in your Seti directory (/Library/Application Support/BOINC Data/setiathome.berkeley.edu/) whether you have the graphics application(s).
It's quite easy to check. For each science application you should have an equally named graphics application. (with thanks to BilBg who looked up the actual names)

I'll give the download links in case you miss one of the apps. You can then manually download it and put it in the aforementioned data directory.

http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setiathome_7.07_x86_64-apple-darwin_ssse3 will have http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setigraphics_7.07_x86_64-apple-darwin_ssse3

http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setiathome_7.07_x86_64-apple-darwin_avx will have http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setigraphics_7.07_x86_64-apple-darwin_avx

http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setiathome_7.07_x86_64-apple-darwin_sse41 will have http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setigraphics_7.07_x86_64-apple-darwin_sse41

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P.S. the last long thread on El Capitano and BOINC and no graphics on GPUs and no graphics on CPUs is here. :)
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Message 1743418 - Posted: 19 Nov 2015, 22:42:37 UTC - in response to Message 1743410.  

Checked, and I have no graphics applications for the science applications.Have not had them since the re download of BOINC after OS update, along with project resets.

And those links are coming up 404 page not found.
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Message 1743423 - Posted: 19 Nov 2015, 22:55:21 UTC - in response to Message 1743418.  

And those links are coming up 404 page not found.

Ah, I had not checked them. Sorry about that. I'll ask around.
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Message 1743433 - Posted: 19 Nov 2015, 23:32:55 UTC

Okay, got an answer from Eric Korpela and I must immediately apologize to Zalster if he ever passes through here, as he was right: the present stock optimized applications do not come paired with graphics applications, at least not on OS X. That may change for version 8, whenever that is released.
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Message 1743462 - Posted: 20 Nov 2015, 1:39:27 UTC - in response to Message 1743433.  

No worries, Jord

I had sent an PM to Urs who told me about the stock not having the graphics.

Happy Crunching...
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Message 1745072 - Posted: 26 Nov 2015, 18:04:22 UTC - in response to Message 1743366.  

Bummer. I want graphics applications. This may decrease users. lol
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Message 1746145 - Posted: 1 Dec 2015, 22:47:49 UTC - in response to Message 1738599.  

Experiencing the same problem
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Message 1746280 - Posted: 2 Dec 2015, 13:03:24 UTC

I have the same issue - no screensaver graphics with El Capitan - tried everything - if anyone has a solution would appreciate the help - Thanks so much! Steve
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Message 1756089 - Posted: 13 Jan 2016, 19:10:56 UTC

All bettah now - w/v8.xx work units... woo-hoo!
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Message 1759432 - Posted: 26 Jan 2016, 12:41:40 UTC - in response to Message 1756089.  

I just got a w/v8.xx work unit, still no screen saver WTF?
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Message 1759434 - Posted: 26 Jan 2016, 12:50:10 UTC - in response to Message 1759432.  

You are running work on your AMD GPU. Just as before with version 7 Seti tasks, work run on the GPU has no graphics or screen saver. Only work run on the CPU has graphics and the screen saver.

Perhaps that this changes for a future version 9.
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