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Message 1740313 - Posted: 7 Nov 2015, 2:36:11 UTC - in response to Message 1740291.  

Ohh great ... MORE Splitter Errors !

That's why we crunch Seti, it's exciting.
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Message 1740323 - Posted: 7 Nov 2015, 3:05:14 UTC

Can some one please tell me what this error is in my event log .

7/11/2015 8:54:35 AM | | app version refers to missing GPU type C0.5DA


I redid Lunatic and changed from AVX on the CPU to sse3 and change GPU to sse4.1 from AVX so I'm shore that's what caused it so I'm not to worried.

Bionic seems to be working ok but I would like to clean it up and have no errors any advise most help full thanks
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Message 1740328 - Posted: 7 Nov 2015, 3:43:16 UTC - in response to Message 1740323.  

Your Intel system is a Core 2 Quad, so SSSE3 would be best application (notice the 3 S es). For both systems CUDA50 would be the best application for the video cards.
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Message 1740336 - Posted: 7 Nov 2015, 4:07:32 UTC - in response to Message 1740328.  

Your Intel system is a Core 2 Quad, so SSSE3 would be best application (notice the 3 S es). For both systems CUDA50 would be the best application for the video cards.


Thanks Grant not shore if you where talking to me but it's the AMD that has the error , I did load CUDA 50 with Lunatics witch is why I ask if anybody knows what it means or why it's saying the error .
It says I have CUDA 50 in the client and is doing them but thanks for the advise .
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Message 1740382 - Posted: 7 Nov 2015, 12:33:43 UTC

Now it seems that RTS is recovering.

Maybe those many resends of those "corrupted" tasks helps a little bit.
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Message 1740383 - Posted: 7 Nov 2015, 12:53:02 UTC - in response to Message 1740382.  

Now it seems that RTS is recovering.

Maybe those many resends of those "corrupted" tasks helps a little bit.

There have been many fewer shorties in recent tapes. Because my work fetch is constrained by the 100 WU quota limit (rather than the 1 day cache setting), I drain far fewer tasks from RTS while working on the chewy ones.
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Message 1740384 - Posted: 7 Nov 2015, 13:05:39 UTC - in response to Message 1740383.  
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Now it seems that RTS is recovering.

Maybe those many resends of those "corrupted" tasks helps a little bit.

There have been many fewer shorties in recent tapes. Because my work fetch is constrained by the 100 WU quota limit (rather than the 1 day cache setting), I drain far fewer tasks from RTS while working on the chewy ones.


Yes, You are right, that is also helping RTS recovery.

EDIT: Downside of RTS, now those "corrupted" wu's stay longer in action... Previously when I did abort one of those, it was sent to next host at once. Now they stay in buffer for some time.

Like this WU
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Message 1740387 - Posted: 7 Nov 2015, 13:31:32 UTC

Richard, I'm fairly certain you've explained how to decode the
job_log_setiathome.berkeley.edu.txt
file - I can so far into a typical line, but how does one get the run date?

1241909224.687500 ue 40434.450553 ct 17077.450000 fe 80360000000000.000000 nm 21fe09ae.26657.73409.6.8.83_1 et 18191.468750


The bits I've identified:
21fe09ae
- the "tape"
26657
- splitter process id
80360000000000.000000 nm
- looks to be something to do with the observation frequency
17077.450000 fe
- is this the bit to do with the observation date & time stamp?


I've got four large files of this data (one for each of my crunchers), and it would be interesting to decode them and see how it stacks with your published records.
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Message 1740395 - Posted: 7 Nov 2015, 14:04:55 UTC - in response to Message 1740387.  

Not quite. Remember that this is a BOINC log, and it is kept in the same format for all projects - so it only contains processing and administration data, no science (forget the observation frequency).

I would break it down as follows:

() 1241909224.687500
Processing time (task completion), in Unix timestamp format. http://www.onlineconversion.com/unix_time.htm makes your example Sat, 09 May 2009 22:47:04 GMT

Using Microsoft tools (Access, in particular), I use

Format$(Int(Min([Datestamp])/86400)+25569,"dd-mmm-yyyy")

to get the first ('minimum') processing date for each tape: 25569 accounts for the difference between the start of the Microsoft epoch (31 December 1899) and the start of the Unix epoch (1 January 1970)

(ue) 40434.450553
I believe this is the original estimated runtime for the task.

(ct) 17077.450000
CPU time used during processing.

(fe) 80360000000000.000000
FLOPs estimation (<rsc_fpops_est>).

(nm) 21fe09ae.26657.73409.6.8.83_1
Task name - project-specific elements.

(et) 18191.468750
Elapsed time for processing.

To confirm the processing time - this machine finished a task at 1446904926 (no microseconds logged by more recent clients), or Sat, 07 Nov 2015 14:02:06 GMT, just as I was proofreading this post.
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Message 1740397 - Posted: 7 Nov 2015, 14:08:32 UTC

Thanks Richard - I can have a play now :-)
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Message 1740400 - Posted: 7 Nov 2015, 14:18:42 UTC - in response to Message 1740397.  

Have fun. Just confirmed my association of ue with initial estimated runtime - fe divided by APR.
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Message 1740408 - Posted: 7 Nov 2015, 15:39:13 UTC

Seems the GPU models page is Still Broken, Still showing;
NVIDIA
Mac
No GPU tasks reported


The latest stats from the Applications page shows;
Linux/x86_64 	7.08 (opencl_ati5_cat132) 	18 Sep 2015, 18:34:25 UTC 	 141 GigaFLOPS
Linux/x86_64 	7.08 (opencl_ati5_nocal) 	18 Sep 2015, 18:34:25 UTC 	 194 GigaFLOPS
Linux/x86_64 	7.08 (opencl_ati5_sah) 	        18 Sep 2015, 18:34:25 UTC 	   0 GigaFLOPS
Linux/x86_64 	7.08 (opencl_ati_cat132) 	18 Sep 2015, 18:34:25 UTC 	  92 GigaFLOPS
Linux/x86_64 	7.08 (opencl_ati_nocal) 	18 Sep 2015, 18:34:25 UTC 	  20 GigaFLOPS
Linux/x86_64 	7.08 (opencl_ati_sah) 	        18 Sep 2015, 18:34:25 UTC 	  10 GigaFLOPS
Linux/x86_64 	7.08 (opencl_nvidia_sah) 	18 Sep 2015, 18:34:25 UTC      3,213 GigaFLOPS
Linux/x86_64 	7.08 (cuda_opencl_100) 	        21 May 2015, 23:56:05 UTC 	  17 GigaFLOPS
Linux/x86_64 	7.08 (cuda_opencl_cc1) 	        21 May 2015, 23:56:05 UTC 	   4 GigaFLOPS
Linux/x86_64 	7.08 (opencl_ati_100) 	        21 May 2015, 23:56:05 UTC 	  78 GigaFLOPS
Linux/x86_64 	7.08 (opencl_nvidia_100) 	21 May 2015, 23:56:05 UTC 	 317 GigaFLOPS
Linux/x86_64 	7.08 (opencl_nvidia_cc1) 	21 May 2015, 23:56:05 UTC 	 165 GigaFLOPS
                                                                Total GPU GF = 4,251

Mac OS X/64-bit Intel 	7.08 (opencl_nvidia_mac)  16 Oct 2015, 18:45:36 UTC    8,967 GigaFLOPS
Mac OS X/64-bit Intel 	7.07 (opencl_nvidia_mac)  23 Apr 2015, 18:50:41 UTC    1,684 GigaFLOPS
                                                            Total nVidia GF = 10,651

There are Over Twice as many Mac nVidia Results as Linux Combined GPU Results, there are Numerous Linux GPUs listed, yet Not a Single Mac nVidia GPU is said to be returning Tasks..
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Message 1740418 - Posted: 7 Nov 2015, 16:18:18 UTC - in response to Message 1740408.  

TBar, just report this problem to BOINC server code developers.

Not to this Seti@Home Server Problems -thread.

IMHO.
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Message 1740421 - Posted: 7 Nov 2015, 16:28:08 UTC - in response to Message 1740418.  

TBar, just report this problem to BOINC server code developers.

Not to this Seti@Home Server Problems -thread.

IMHO.

Both pages have this on them;

They Are Hosted on a SETI Server. Why you think it should be posted on a BOINC page is a Mystery.
The Problem is Most Definitely a SETI Server problem and has More relevance than many of the Posts here.
???
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Message 1740436 - Posted: 7 Nov 2015, 17:21:11 UTC - in response to Message 1740408.  

There are Over Twice as many Mac nVidia Results as Linux Combined GPU Results, there are Numerous Linux GPUs listed, yet Not a Single Mac nVidia GPU is said to be returning Tasks..

No, Those stats are not the number of results, But the amount of compute power for each app version, in GigaFLOPS.

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Message 1740437 - Posted: 7 Nov 2015, 17:25:40 UTC - in response to Message 1740421.  

TBar, just report this problem to BOINC server code developers.

Not to this Seti@Home Server Problems -thread.

IMHO.

Both pages have this on them;

They Are Hosted on a SETI Server. Why you think it should be posted on a BOINC page is a Mystery.
The Problem is Most Definitely a SETI Server problem and has More relevance than many of the Posts here.
???

The project runs Boinc server software, maintained by the BOINC developers:

boinc / html / user / gpu_list.php

1 <?php 
2  
3 // This file is part of BOINC. 
4 // http://boinc.berkeley.edu 
5 // Copyright (C) 2011 University of California 
6 // 
7 // BOINC is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it 
8 // under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public License 
9 // as published by the Free Software Foundation, 
10 // either version 3 of the License, or (at your option) any later version. 
11 // 
12 // BOINC is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, 
13 // but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of 
14 // MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. 
15 // See the GNU Lesser General Public License for more details. 
16 // 
17 // You should have received a copy of the GNU Lesser General Public License 
18 // along with BOINC.  If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>. 
19  
20 // generate a page of the best-performing GPU models. 
21 // 
22 // "best-performing" is defined as minimizing the average of 
23 // 
24 // elapsed_time(J)/rsc_fpops_est(J) 
25 // over completed jobs J currently in the DB 
26  
27 require_once("../inc/util.inc"); 
28  
29 // take a host.serialnum field (which may encode several GPUs) 
30 // and extract the model name for the given vendor 
31 // 
32 function get_gpu_model($x, $vendor) { 
33     $descs = explode("]", $x); 
34     array_pop($descs); 
35     foreach ($descs as $desc) { 
36         $desc = trim($desc, "["); 
37         $d = explode("|", $desc); 
38         if ($d[0] == "BOINC") continue; 
39         if ($d[0] != $vendor) continue; 
40         return $d[1]; 
41     } 
42     return null; 
43 } 
44  
45 function add_model($model, $r, $wu, &$models) { 
46     if (array_key_exists($model, $models)) { 
47         $models[$model]->count++; 
48         $models[$model]->time += $r->elapsed_time/$wu->rsc_fpops_est; 
49     } else { 
50         $x = new StdClass; 
51         $x->count = 1; 
52         $x->time = $r->elapsed_time/$wu->rsc_fpops_est; 
53         $models[$model] = $x; 
54     } 
55 } 
56  
57 // return a data structure containing GPU usage info for a vendor 
58 // $x->total: combined list 
59 // $x->windows 
60 // $x->linux 
61 // $x->mac 
62 // 
63 function get_gpu_list($vendor, $alt_vendor=null) { 
64     $clause = "plan_class like '%$vendor%'"; 
65     if ($alt_vendor) { 
66         $clause .= " or plan_class like '%$alt_vendor%'"; 
67     } 
68     $avs = BoincAppVersion::enum($clause); 
69     if (count($avs) == 0) { 
70         $x = new StdClass; 
71         $x->total = array(); 
72         return $x; 
73     } 
74  
75     $av_ids = ""; 
76     foreach($avs as $av) { 
77         $av_ids .= "$av->id, "; 
78     } 
79     if ($vendor == "cuda") { 
80         $av_ids .= "-3"; 
81     } else if ($vendor == "ati") { 
82         $av_ids .= "-4"; 
83     } else if ($vendor == "intel_gpu") { 
84         $av_ids .= "-5"; 
85     } else { 
86         $av_ids .= "0"; 
87     } 
88  
89     $t = time() - 30*86400; 
90     //echo "start enum $vendor $av_ids\n"; 
91     $results = BoincResult::enum( 
92         "app_version_id in ($av_ids) and create_time > $t and elapsed_time>100 limit 500" 
93     ); 
94     //echo "end enum\n"; 
95     $total = array(); 
96     $win = array(); 
97     $linux = array(); 
98     $mac = array(); 
99     foreach ($results as $r) { 
100         $h = BoincHost::lookup_id($r->hostid); 
101         if (!$h) continue; 
102         $wu = BoincWorkunit::lookup_id($r->workunitid); 
103         if (!$wu) continue; 
104         $v = ""; 
105         if ($vendor == "cuda") { 
106             $v = "CUDA"; 
107         } else if ($vendor == "intel_gpu") { 
108             $v = "INTEL"; 
109         } else { 
110             $v = "CAL"; 
111         } 
112         $model = get_gpu_model($h->serialnum, $v); 
113         if (!$model) continue; 
114         add_model($model, $r, $wu, $total); 
115         if (strstr($h->os_name, "Windows")) { 
116             add_model($model, $r, $wu, $win); 
117         } 
118         if (strstr($h->os_name, "Linux")) { 
119             add_model($model, $r, $wu, $linux); 
120         } 
121         if (strstr($h->os_name, "Darwin")) { 
122             add_model($model, $r, $wu, $mac); 
123         } 
124  
125     } 
126     $x = new StdClass; 
127     $x->total = $total; 
128     $x->win = $win; 
129     $x->linux = $linux; 
130     $x->mac = $mac; 
131     return $x; 
132 } 
133  
134 function get_gpu_lists() { 
135     $x = new StdClass; 
136     $x->cuda = get_gpu_list("cuda", "nvidia"); 
137     $x->ati = get_gpu_list("ati"); 
138     $x->intel_gpu = get_gpu_list("intel_gpu"); 
139     $x->time = time(); 
140     return $x; 
141 } 
142  
143 function gpucmp($x1, $x2) { 
144     return $x1->avg_time > $x2->avg_time; 
145 } 
146  
147 function show_list($models, $name) { 
148     echo "<td><h2>$name</h2>\n"; 
149     if (!count($models)) { 
150         echo tra("No GPU tasks reported")."</td>\n"; 
151         return; 
152     } 
153     $max_count = 0; 
154     foreach ($models as $model=>$x) { 
155         if ($x->count > $max_count) $max_count = $x->count; 
156         $x->avg_time = $x->time/$x->count; 
157     } 
158     $min_time = 1e9; 
159     foreach ($models as $model=>$x) { 
160         if ($x->count < $max_count/10) continue; 
161         if ($x->avg_time < $min_time) $min_time = $x->avg_time; 
162     } 
163     uasort($models, 'gpucmp'); 
164     echo "<ol>\n"; 
165     foreach ($models as $model=>$x) { 
166         if ($x->count < $max_count/10) continue; 
167         $s = number_format($min_time/$x->avg_time, 3); 
168         echo "<li>($s)  $model\n"; 
169     } 
170     echo "</ol></td>\n"; 
171 } 
172  
173 function show_vendor($vendor, $x) { 
174     echo "<h2>$vendor</h2>\n"; 
175     if (!count($x->total)) { 
176         echo tra("No GPU tasks reported"); 
177         return; 
178     } 
179     $have_win = count($x->win)>0; 
180     $have_mac = count($x->mac)>0; 
181     $have_linux = count($x->linux)>0; 
182     $n = 0; 
183     if ($have_win) $n++; 
184     if ($have_mac) $n++; 
185     if ($have_linux) $n++; 
186     $show_total = $n>1; 
187     start_table(); 
188     echo "<tr>"; 
189     if ($show_total) { 
190         show_list($x->total, "Total"); 
191     } 
192     show_list($x->win, "Windows"); 
193     show_list($x->linux, "Linux"); 
194     show_list($x->mac, "Mac"); 
195     echo "</tr></table>\n"; 
196 } 
197  
198 $d = get_cached_data(86400); 
199 if ($d) { 
200     $data = unserialize($d); 
201 } else { 
202     $data = get_gpu_lists(); 
203     set_cached_data(86400, serialize($data)); 
204 } 
205  
206 page_head(tra("Top GPU models")); 
207 echo tra("The following lists show the most productive GPU models on different platforms.  Relative speeds, measured by average elapsed time of tasks, are shown in parentheses."); 
208 show_vendor("NVIDIA", $data->cuda); 
209 show_vendor("ATI/AMD", $data->ati); 
210 show_vendor("Intel", $data->intel_gpu); 
211 echo "<p>Generated ".time_str($data->time); 
212 page_tail(); 
213  
214 ?> 


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Message 1740438 - Posted: 7 Nov 2015, 17:33:40 UTC - in response to Message 1740421.  

They Are Hosted on a SETI Server. Why you think it should be posted on a BOINC page is a Mystery.
The Problem is Most Definitely a SETI Server problem and has More relevance than many of the Posts here.
???

Because the operational code is written and maintained by BOINC:

https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/blob/master/html/user/gpu_list.php

Only the 'skinning' - style sheet carrying logo and navigation bars - is provided by SETI.
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Message 1740439 - Posted: 7 Nov 2015, 17:42:11 UTC - in response to Message 1740437.  

Keep arguing Semantics. We are watching you dance around an Obvious problem with the SETI Stats on a SETI webpage from a SETI Server.
Obviously if you don't return results you will Not receive a GF reading.
Likewise, the more results the higher that GF reading will be on that page.
It's all very interesting...
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Message 1740440 - Posted: 7 Nov 2015, 17:46:15 UTC - in response to Message 1740408.  
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Seems the GPU models page is Still Broken, Still showing;
NVIDIA
Mac
No GPU tasks reported


The latest stats from the Applications page shows;
Linux/x86_64 	7.08 (opencl_ati5_cat132) 	18 Sep 2015, 18:34:25 UTC 	 141 GigaFLOPS
Linux/x86_64 	7.08 (opencl_ati5_nocal) 	18 Sep 2015, 18:34:25 UTC 	 194 GigaFLOPS
Linux/x86_64 	7.08 (opencl_ati5_sah) 	        18 Sep 2015, 18:34:25 UTC 	   0 GigaFLOPS
Linux/x86_64 	7.08 (opencl_ati_cat132) 	18 Sep 2015, 18:34:25 UTC 	  92 GigaFLOPS
Linux/x86_64 	7.08 (opencl_ati_nocal) 	18 Sep 2015, 18:34:25 UTC 	  20 GigaFLOPS
Linux/x86_64 	7.08 (opencl_ati_sah) 	        18 Sep 2015, 18:34:25 UTC 	  10 GigaFLOPS
Linux/x86_64 	7.08 (opencl_nvidia_sah) 	18 Sep 2015, 18:34:25 UTC      3,213 GigaFLOPS
Linux/x86_64 	7.08 (cuda_opencl_100) 	        21 May 2015, 23:56:05 UTC 	  17 GigaFLOPS
Linux/x86_64 	7.08 (cuda_opencl_cc1) 	        21 May 2015, 23:56:05 UTC 	   4 GigaFLOPS
Linux/x86_64 	7.08 (opencl_ati_100) 	        21 May 2015, 23:56:05 UTC 	  78 GigaFLOPS
Linux/x86_64 	7.08 (opencl_nvidia_100) 	21 May 2015, 23:56:05 UTC 	 317 GigaFLOPS
Linux/x86_64 	7.08 (opencl_nvidia_cc1) 	21 May 2015, 23:56:05 UTC 	 165 GigaFLOPS
                                                                Total GPU GF = 4,251

Mac OS X/64-bit Intel 	7.08 (opencl_nvidia_mac)  16 Oct 2015, 18:45:36 UTC    8,967 GigaFLOPS
Mac OS X/64-bit Intel 	7.07 (opencl_nvidia_mac)  23 Apr 2015, 18:50:41 UTC    1,684 GigaFLOPS
                                                            Total nVidia GF = 10,651

There are Over Twice as many Mac nVidia Results as Linux Combined GPU Results, there are Numerous Linux GPUs listed, yet Not a Single Mac nVidia GPU is said to be returning Tasks..

My feeling is that while there may be more compute power produced with the mac apps, If the elapsed times of the devices producing that compute power fall out side the time limits then the results won't be shown in the gpu_list (As HAL9000 already hinted):

91 $results = BoincResult::enum(
92 "app_version_id in ($av_ids) and create_time > $t and elapsed_time>100 limit 500"
93 );

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Message 1740441 - Posted: 7 Nov 2015, 17:47:40 UTC

I think I see the bug ...


112 $model = get_gpu_model($h->serialnum, $v);
113 if (!$model) continue;
114 add_model($model, $r, $wu, $total);
115 if (strstr($h->os_name, "Windows")) {
116 add_model($model, $r, $wu, $win);
117 }
118 if (strstr($h->os_name, "Linux")) {
119 add_model($model, $r, $wu, $linux);
120 }
121 if (strstr($h->os_name, "Darwin")) {
122 add_model($model, $r, $wu, $mac);
123 }


On the application page it says MAC, not Darwin. So it's probably not counting them.
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