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Message 1741226 - Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 2:21:21 UTC - in response to Message 1741204.  

it is a holiday tomorrow, so cut us some slack, if it's later than tomorrow morning :)

Veteran's day is not a Federal Holiday........although it should be!

Since I am retired every day is a holiday.
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Message 1741231 - Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 2:49:24 UTC - in response to Message 1741184.  

So we're back from maintenance, but unless I'm mistaken the splitters have not yet been turned up??

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Message 1741233 - Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 3:03:11 UTC - in response to Message 1741204.  
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it is a holiday tomorrow, so cut us some slack, if it's later than tomorrow morning :)

Veteran's day is not a Federal Holiday........although it should be!


In the US, Veteran's day is a federal holiday and always has been.


http://www.archives.gov/news/federal-holidays.html

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https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/snow-dismissal-procedures/federal-holidays/
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Message 1741235 - Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 3:14:20 UTC - in response to Message 1741233.  

it is a holiday tomorrow, so cut us some slack, if it's later than tomorrow morning :)

Veteran's day is not a Federal Holiday........although it should be!


In the US, Veteran's day is a federal holiday and always has been.

Right, which means only government employees get it off.
The rest of us, including most veterans, get nada.
All holidays, and all veterans, are not created equal.
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Message 1741242 - Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 3:49:09 UTC

Time to accept APs only even though there are no RTS APs. Most of the MBs I am receiving at the moment are the problem resends from Nov 4.
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Message 1741244 - Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 4:03:01 UTC

As Matt said we would run out of work and we did. With advance notice this is not a cause for panic.
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Message 1741247 - Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 4:27:15 UTC - in response to Message 1741204.  

it is a holiday tomorrow, so cut us some slack, if it's later than tomorrow morning :)

Veteran's day is not a Federal Holiday........although it should be!

Oh, YES IT IS.
I am a US Federal employee (USDA AMS Cotton & Tobacco Programs). I'm working tomorrow, and drawing Holiday Pay for 8 of the 9 hours.
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Message 1741255 - Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 4:52:33 UTC - in response to Message 1741247.  

I'm working tomorrow, and drawing Holiday Pay for 8 of the 9 hours.

Woo Hoo, that might mean you could get a new GPU.
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Message 1741263 - Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 5:18:34 UTC - in response to Message 1741108.  

Therefore, I conclude, once again, that I am clear of these WUs... They have run their course on my machines...

Unfortunately your conclusion is wrong.
Those WUs are still around, and it will take a couple of months for all of them to clear out of the system.
However the initial rush of them has cleared, and most people will only get one or 2 over the next few days (I've cleared out 4 so far today), then maybe one or 2 a week towards the end of the month, then maybe one or 2 for all of Dec.
By January there will still be the odd one floating around, and you'd have to be very unlucky to end up with one.
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Message 1741266 - Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 5:27:11 UTC - in response to Message 1741263.  
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Therefore, I conclude, once again, that I am clear of these WUs... They have run their course on my machines...

Unfortunately your conclusion is wrong.
Those WUs are still around, and it will take a couple of months for all of them to clear out of the system.
...

Agreed. Each time one is aborted (I just threw back another 75 a few minutes ago) or finished with a fail, it will resend if it has not maxed out. Everything I aborted came to me after today's outage.
Between the outage and whenever the splitters come back on line, everything is resends, and a high proportion of those will be the bad ones ...

[edit]
After posting this, I went back and checked. Got 6 more resends on 2 machines. 5 of 6 were baddies ...
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Message 1741272 - Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 5:47:11 UTC

Oh, YES IT IS.
I am a US Federal employee (USDA AMS Cotton & Tobacco Programs). I'm working tomorrow, and drawing Holiday Pay for 8 of the 9 hours.

My error in syntax, Veterans Day is not a NATIONAL Holiday, although it should be.
Banks, Post Offices, Wall Street, City, County, State AND Federal Offices should be closed to honor those who make those activities possible.

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Message 1741277 - Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 6:08:42 UTC - in response to Message 1741266.  
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Same here. All the WUs I got after the outage are re-sends. I've only dumped stuff down to _4, but its still over 25 WUs aborted. A _2 or _3 is not that unusual, so I've kept them, knowing that they could all be bad! The only snag is, I'm now only allowed 5 WUs per day, now! Nothing quite like 'punishing' the innocent.
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Message 1741330 - Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 14:14:21 UTC - in response to Message 1741272.  
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Oh, YES IT IS.
I am a US Federal employee (USDA AMS Cotton & Tobacco Programs). I'm working tomorrow, and drawing Holiday Pay for 8 of the 9 hours.

My error in syntax, Veterans Day is not a NATIONAL Holiday, although it should be.
Banks, Post Offices, Wall Street, City, County, State AND Federal Offices should be closed to honor those who make those activities possible.


I do not know where you are living in the US, but the US Post Offices are closed today and all Federal Reserve Banks are also.

And it is a National Holiday. Whether a individual business observes it or not depends on their corporate philosophy, as with Christmas and Thanksgiving (also National Holidays).

Side note: as a Veteran I will having a free lunch at Applebee's today.

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Message 1741333 - Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 14:58:16 UTC

someone should give the splitters a kick - I see 0 for "results ready to send" but the "result creation rate" is only 1.8 per second... which won't satisfy current requests, let alone build up a queue...
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Message 1741335 - Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 15:04:09 UTC - in response to Message 1741333.  

someone should give the splitters a kick - I see 0 for "results ready to send" but the "result creation rate" is only 1.8 per second... which won't satisfy current requests, let alone build up a queue...

While you were there, did you happen to notice that all the splitters were disabled? As already quoted in this thread,

Splits (Nov 10 2015)

BUT ALSO we needed to update some fields in the current science database schema to also make the database itself telescope agnostic. Just a few "alter table" commands to lengthen the tape name fields beyond 20 characters. We thought these alters would take a few hours (and completed before the end of today's Tuesday outage). Now it looks like it might take a day. We can't split/assimilate any new work until the alters are finished. Oh well. We're going to run out of work tonight, but should have fresh work sometime tomorrow morning. It is a holiday tomorrow, so cut us some slack, if it's later than tomorrow morning :).
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Message 1741344 - Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 15:59:52 UTC - in response to Message 1741266.  
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Therefore, I conclude, once again, that I am clear of these WUs... They have run their course on my machines...

Unfortunately your conclusion is wrong.
Those WUs are still around, and it will take a couple of months for all of them to clear out of the system.
...

Agreed. Each time one is aborted (I just threw back another 75 a few minutes ago) or finished with a fail, it will resend if it has not maxed out. Everything I aborted came to me after today's outage.
Between the outage and whenever the splitters come back on line, everything is resends, and a high proportion of those will be the bad ones ...

[edit]
After posting this, I went back and checked. Got 6 more resends on 2 machines. 5 of 6 were baddies ...
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Let's see good side, now when splitters are off-line, those Bad WU's are gone much faster. Those are not waiting 600.000 WU RTS -cache before sent again.
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Message 1741357 - Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 16:44:36 UTC - in response to Message 1741344.  

Let's see good side, now when splitters are off-line, those Bad WU's are gone much faster. Those are not waiting 600.000 WU RTS -cache before sent again.

That's for sure. My boxes only managed to download 11 tasks overnight, all resends, and 9 of them were malignant. After I aborted and reported them this morning, it only took 4 seconds or less to resend each of them to the next victim.
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Message 1741358 - Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 16:50:42 UTC
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those Bad WU's are gone much faster.


Not when they keep coming back again and again and again......ad infinitum.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?userid=9686778&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=
Is there no way to purge these useless efforts?

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Message 1741359 - Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 16:56:53 UTC - in response to Message 1741358.  

those Bad WU's are gone much faster.


Not when they keep coming back again and again and again......ad infinitum.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?userid=9686778&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=
Is there no way to purge these useless efforts?


Nope, they are send 10 times. Then they are marked "Too many total results" and won't be sent again.

Now when RTS -cache is zero, they are sent immediately to next host. But when RTS is over 600.000, those units are waiting, maybe 5 hours to be send again.
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Message 1741360 - Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 16:57:14 UTC

And splitters are online again.
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