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Message 1728432 - Posted: 24 Sep 2015, 6:42:41 UTC - in response to Message 1728429.  

And maybe Vic you have suggested something else. What if instead of planes we stick missles in the hangar. Im sure there was someting about how the hangar was made to keep water out that was top secret at the time.

We did, in fact use a variation on the I-400 external hangers for the 3 diesel subs that carried Regulus cruise missiles in the late 1950s. The lone nuke boat, USS Halibut (SSN-587), was modified during construction to extend her forward torpedo room to allow internal storage of the missiles. All 4 had to surface to launch, and were made obsolete when the USS George Washington class SSBNs and the Polaris ballistic missile entered the fleet.

Thank you Donald. Ever since I had heard of the I-400 class, I wonderd why we just scuttled them. That would explain a lot.
Just goes to show a military secret is sercret very long though.

There were probably a lot of good reasons we did NOT want to share Japanese submarine technology with the Soviets - just like we didn't want to share rocket or nuclear technology with them. Even during the War, we recognized that after the Axis powers were defeated, we and the Soviets would be adversaries .....
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Message 1728435 - Posted: 24 Sep 2015, 7:01:00 UTC - in response to Message 1728429.  
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And maybe Vic you have suggested something else. What if instead of planes we stick missiles in the hangar. Im sure there was someting about how the hangar was made to keep water out that was top secret at the time.

We did, in fact use a variation on the I-400 external hangers for the 3 diesel subs that carried Regulus cruise missiles in the late 1950s. The lone nuke boat, USS Halibut (SSN-587), was modified during construction to extend her forward torpedo room to allow internal storage of the missiles. All 4 had to surface to launch, and were made obsolete when the USS George Washington class SSBNs and the Polaris ballistic missile entered the fleet.


Thank you Donald. Ever since I had heard of the I-400 class, I wondered why we just scuttled them. That would explain a lot.
Just goes to show a military secret is secret very long though.

Here's a pic of the JB-2, aka the 'Loon', a V1 derivative(an almost exact copy, except for the paint and a few details) being launched in 1951 from the USS Cusk.

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Message 1728436 - Posted: 24 Sep 2015, 7:17:12 UTC

OK who streached the thread?
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Message 1728567 - Posted: 24 Sep 2015, 17:24:50 UTC - in response to Message 1728435.  

And maybe Vic you have suggested something else. What if instead of planes we stick missiles in the hangar. Im sure there was someting about how the hangar was made to keep water out that was top secret at the time.

We did, in fact use a variation on the I-400 external hangers for the 3 diesel subs that carried Regulus cruise missiles in the late 1950s. The lone nuke boat, USS Halibut (SSN-587), was modified during construction to extend her forward torpedo room to allow internal storage of the missiles. All 4 had to surface to launch, and were made obsolete when the USS George Washington class SSBNs and the Polaris ballistic missile entered the fleet.

Thank you Donald. Ever since I had heard of the I-400 class, I wondered why we just scuttled them. That would explain a lot.
Just goes to show a military secret is secret very long though.

Here's a pic of the JB-2, aka the 'Loon', a V1 derivative(an almost exact copy, except for the paint and a few details) being launched in 1951 from the USS Cusk.

And the Loon was an early ancestor of both the Regulus and Polaris/Poseidon/Trident submarine-launched missile systems
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Message 1728572 - Posted: 24 Sep 2015, 17:39:31 UTC

This is what a modern Russian submarine look like.

And the old Triton II that probably still are lurking in our waters.
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Message 1728650 - Posted: 24 Sep 2015, 22:17:32 UTC - in response to Message 1727446.  

A submarine I have just got intrested in is the Japanese Sen-Toku class. The sub that could carry 3 airplanes. The US had posesstion of 2 of them after the war and studies then. The sank them to keep the Russians from studying them.

I guess Im going to have to do some research and find out what the US didnt what the Russians to find out.


The sole mission of these boats was to destroy, or at least seriously damage, the Panama Canal.
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Message 1728954 - Posted: 26 Sep 2015, 1:31:50 UTC

Used to help build these, many years ago...






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Message 1729110 - Posted: 26 Sep 2015, 11:45:19 UTC - in response to Message 1728954.  
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Used to help build these, many years ago...

Nice Flag. The English combined with the UK flag:)
This is how our flag looked like when Sweden, Sapme and Norway was an union in the 19th century.


As a kid about 8, 9 years I was onboard a sub.
Still remember how cramped it was.
And funny round doors:)
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Message 1729229 - Posted: 26 Sep 2015, 19:08:13 UTC

I'm a sub fan too. Been stationed on them all my career!
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Message 1729248 - Posted: 26 Sep 2015, 19:44:14 UTC - in response to Message 1729229.  

I'm a sub fan too. Been stationed on them all my career!

I remember my toy model of the N/S Nautilus that I played with in the bathtub:)
Later I read the Jules Verne novel Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea.
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Message 1729478 - Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 7:08:06 UTC - in response to Message 1729229.  

I'm a sub fan too. Been stationed on them all my career!

Still in, or retired?

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Message 1729480 - Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 7:22:32 UTC
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Ahoy sailors:)
I spent some time on my first christmas three months old on the destroyer Halland.


And here is the sub Hajen "the Shark" that I have been abord:)
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Message 1729626 - Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 20:58:11 UTC - in response to Message 1729478.  

Still in, have 18 years, going for 24 if the let me!
Thank you for your service! Member of Subvets?
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Message 1729636 - Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 21:48:28 UTC
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I, and many others, have a world of thanks we owe to you vets.
Debts that we are unable to repay you.
Please just accept my thanks and appreciation.
I am sure you don't get it often enough.

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Message 1729644 - Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 22:21:41 UTC - in response to Message 1729636.  

I, and many others, have a world of thanks we owe to you vets.
Debts that we are unable to repay you.
Please just accept my thanks and appreciation.
I am sure you don't get it often enough.

Meow.

OT: Well I kind of doubt there are too many people here who have Dads who were in the 3rd Army in Europe during WWII, since My Dad was a Medic and was someone who saved lives when possible(368th Medical, recommended for 2 commendations for His paperwork on Allied and POW Patients, 1942-1946). He's at least this redheads hero, if nothing else, though it's too bad He never told Me, I found this out after His death from My Sister in law, the retired RN, who He confided in, as He thought I'd never understand, I at least have a First Aid merit badge(at age 12, in 1 day, no less).
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Message 1729685 - Posted: 28 Sep 2015, 1:49:03 UTC - in response to Message 1729626.  

Still in, have 18 years, going for 24 if the let me!
Thank you for your service! Member of Subvets?

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Message 1730615 - Posted: 1 Oct 2015, 12:26:11 UTC
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Prior to his last day of work responds Supreme Commander in a DN interview questions about the submarine search in the Stockholm Archipelago on 17 to 24 October last year.
- I am absolutely sure that Sweden was violated in October. I am even more convinced today than then. The final analysis that we conducted is broader and much deeper, says Sverker Göranson.
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=sv&sl=sv&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dn.se%2Fnyheter%2Fsverige%2Fob-vi-gjorde-fynd-pa-land%2F

It's almost imposssible to find a submarine in the Baltic Sea.
Different saline content and temperatures is a problem for detectors.
Then in the Stockholm Archipelago where you can hide almost everywhere...

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Message 1732966 - Posted: 8 Oct 2015, 19:47:25 UTC
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U-boat is a populary drink.
Here is a variant.
Depth Charge.
Ingredients.
Trappist beer Rochefort and green Chartreuse.
https://youtu.be/rjidr20iscQ
"One of the most dangerous thing you can drink"
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