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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30930 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Sorry but with those scores you can't call him 'right wing'. Actually we can. Right wing is the democrat party. Extremist is the GOP. there are only 3 left wing candidates on that list, There are no left wing candidates on that list. There is no major left wing party in the USA. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
I was making a subtle political comment. He's saying there's 50 states and "only" 39 political parties. 11 more to go until you have one for every state. From Chris' point of view this probably seems excessive or even absurd. Methinks it really did go over your head. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
I was making a subtle political comment. Is it so hard to understand this: As of April 2015, there were 39 distinct ballot-qualified political parties in the United States. There were 221 state-level parties. Some parties are recognized in multiple states What I'm I missing? For instance the Grassroots Party are now only represented from 1 state. They need 50 more states to get some influence in the US federal politics. Not 11. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
I was making a subtle political comment. You're over-thinking the entire joke. It is as simple as 39 parties and 50 states. 39 + 11 = 50. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
I was making a subtle political comment. But that suggest there are only 50 state-level parties. Thats not true. There are 221 state-level parties. http://ballotpedia.org/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_States 51 Democratic parties 51 Republican parties. And other parties... |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30930 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
I was making a subtle political comment. I think American English isn't your first language and you are far over thinking the translation and/or haven't got quite the cultural heritage to understand the humor. It isn't a particularly funny joke, more like one where you groan when you get the punchline. Posted from the Great State of California, land of sunshine, sand, palm trees, bikini clad women and proud to represent the home of the great Moon Beam party! ;) |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
I think American English isn't your first language and you are far over thinking the translation and/or haven't got quite the cultural heritage to understand the humor. It isn't a particularly funny joke, more like one where you groan when you get the punchline. Hehehe. Obviously Chris S humor went way above my head. Posted from the Nordic countries, land of pine trees, crayfish parties and pagan rituals at midsummer:) |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
Besides, there are only 3 left wing candidates on that list, all the others are republicans, thus making it easy to have one look like they are a republican voter. Well, to be fair, that website's list only includes about 1/5th of the currently declared candidates (18 out of 90) and only 2 of the 39 political parties. (Yes, further research, I have found a list of 90 currently declared candidates for President in 2016... http://2016.presidential-candidates.org/?sort=alphabetically&sex=&other=) Per the most recent poll I have seen on the subject, 60% of the people in the US think we need at least 1 more major party with only 26% believing that the Democrats and the Republicans do an adequate job of things. http://www.gallup.com/poll/165392/perceived-need-third-party-reaches-new-high.aspx Our problem? Ballot access laws. These State laws, written by the Democrats and the Republicans control which parties get automatic access to the Ballots and which parties have to really WORK at it to get on a Ballot (if they can at all). The Democrats and the Republicans wrote these laws to HEAVILY favor themselves, and exclude other parties. Only 2 parties are automatically on the Ballots in all 50 States (plus the D.C.), the Democrats and the Republicans. Only 3 others are automatically on the Ballots in 10 or more States for 2016: 1. Libertarian Party @ 34 states. 2. Green Party @ 21 states. 3. Constitution Party @ 12 states. This needs fixing to give the People a real, meaningful choice. |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
ROFLMAO!! If criminal activity by its members was a disqualification for political parties in the USA, there wouldn't be ANY political parties in the USA. They ALL do it. And both the Republicans and the Democrats have representants in 51 states! Uhh... Washington DC is NOT a State. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
There is criminal activities and there is criminal activities:) But in the case of the Grassroot Party... Anyway. I know that Washington DC is not a State. But the link you gave us say it is otherwise in elections. http://ballotpedia.org/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_States Total state affiliates for each political party, April 2015. The sum is 51 states. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Well, to be fair, that website's list only includes about 1/5th of the currently declared candidates (18 out of 90) and only 2 of the 39 political parties. Thanks for that Major! I stand corrected. :-) Our problem? Ballot access laws. I'm in full agreement with you there sir. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
I know that Washington DC is not a State. No, you're misunderstanding what the article is saying. DC is never counted as a state, not even in elections. It is always 50 States plus DC. It is always a separate entity; it is not the 51st state. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
I know that Washington DC is not a State. It is always 50 States plus DC OK. 50 States plus DC is 51 something. Sounds almost like our EU:) |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
I know that Washington DC is not a State. It sure is. :-) |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
Yep. Of course, when I point out the similarities in structure between the EU (likely soon to be the USE due to financial difficulties involving your sort-of common currency -- the Euro) and the USA, it tends to irritate many around here. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_voting_rights Voting rights of citizens in the District of Columbia differ from the rights of citizens in each of the 50 U.S. states. The United States Constitution grants each state voting representation in both houses of the United States Congress. As the U.S. capital, the District of Columbia is a special federal district, not a state, and therefore does not have voting representation in the Congress. The Constitution grants the Congress exclusive jurisdiction over the District in "all cases whatsoever." |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Parties you side with... As i chuckle .......Clyde your smarter than that , no !! Doing a psych test about where you stand politically and then saying your the opposite mmmmmm -10 I.Q points |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
And both the Republicans and the Democrats have representants in 51 states! oh i was wondering why people where saying 50 states , DC is like our A.C.T Capital Canberra , not a state but Federal territory or something like that . Thanks Kong |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Here's one that will probably sound stupid but isn't Alaska or Hawaii the 51st state ??? |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
Here's one that will probably sound stupid but isn't Alaska or Hawaii the 51st state ??? Nope. Alaska is #49, Hawaii is #50. Both were admitted back in 1959. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_date_of_admission_to_the_Union |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Dang Hollywood and there movies :) |
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