Hi, everyone.

I am convinced that Europe would benefit from letting alot(more then 1 milion) of Syrian refugees getting asylum in Europe in a short period of time. They would soon be integrated as European's. Here in Sweden we have a small problem with places to live since most parts of Sweden has way too few places to live. We need like 300 000 - 500 000 thousend new places to live(apartments) in a time period of 3-5 years and that is a large number for Sweden today to fix...but we are slowly working to solve this.

To get people to stop fleeing from war zones is to stop shooting. No-one shooting then no-one needs to run... Without new and more weapons there will be more money for food and everydaystuff that people need. Some people on this planet are a bit too trigger happy.....

Hi, everyone.

I am convinced that Europe would benefit from letting alot(more then 1 milion) of Syrian refugees getting asylum in Europe in a short period of time. They would soon be integrated as European's. Here in Sweden we have a small problem with places to live since most parts of Sweden has way too few places to live. We need like 300 000 - 500 000 thousend new places to live(apartments) in a time period of 3-5 years and that is a large number for Sweden today to fix...but we are slowly working to solve this.

To get people to stop fleeing from war zones is to stop shooting. No-one shooting then no-one needs to run... Without new and more weapons there will be more money for food and everydaystuff that people need. Some people on this planet are a bit too trigger happy.....

Welcome back:)

Yes Europe need immigration to support the growing population of eldery people.
Like some grumpy old Swedes for instance:)

Hur som helst. VÃ¥r kund har fortfarande inte testat mitt system.
Det är bedrövligt...
IT som det är som sämst!

This is NOT Hyvä Suomi:(
Asylum seekers were attacked in Lahti Finland.
- There were many families with children in the buses. Some of the children were in the baby's age, says Turunen.
On a picture published on the YLE website shows a protester wearing something like a Ku Klux Klan outfit!!!
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsvenska.yle.fi%2Fartikel%2F2015%2F09%2F25%2Fasylsokande-attackerades-i-lahtis-barn-narvarande&edit-text=

I know that many Finns are xenophobic but usally they don't show it.
Only saying "Shut the door when you are leaving".
Perkele:(

Seven factors behind movement of Syrian refugees to Europe.
While more than 4 million Syrian refugees are in countries neighbouring Syria, recent months have seen an increase in the number of Syrians seeking refuge further afield – there have been almost 429,000 asylum applications by Syrians in Europe since 2011. Based on ongoing monitoring and assessments, surveys, focus group discussions, and daily interaction with refugees in Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt and Iraq, UNHCR has identified seven principal factors behind this. The information gathered here mainly applies to Syrians living as refugees in the region, rather than people moving directly out of Syria.
http://www.unhcr.org/560523f26.html

Janne....

What is the solution?

Without losing our Ethics, Morality, and Western Belief in the Equality of All.

By more education and less poverty.
Thats its parhaps the "easy" part.
Then we have religion and clergymen who doesn't want more education and less poverty...

60 million refugees in the world right now.
I think many here in the SETI forum have moved from one location to an other place to get a better life somewhere else.
There is a difference between moving and being a refugee.

6 degrees of separation comes to mind.
Only 6 steps to all 7 billion people on the world.
It's a small world.

@Clyde.
The Gunmen are uneducated.
The Gunmen are poor.
Instead of trying living as a refugee at 1 Euro/day (UNCHR stats) Gunmens are choosing the Black Party instead.
The leaders of the Gunmen are not poor but badly educated.

The Gunmen are uneducated.
The Gunmen are poor.
Instead of trying living as a refugee at 1 Euro/day (UNCHR stats) Gunmens are choosing the Black Party instead.
The leaders of the Gunmen are not poor but badly educated.

How much education does it take to murder and rape innocents.

No amount of education will protect a village, or an entire region, from uneducated gunmen.

Only an armed population/army/militia, and the internal capacity to kill these gunmen, in vast quantity. Will protect The People from Rape, Murder, and Enslavement.

Afterward. The West can try to install Western Values upon this benighted region.

I think that lack of education feeds murderer, rapists and traffickers.
It doesn't take a criminologist to figure that out just by looking the education level at convicted persons.

Trying to install "Western" values upon others wont work.
That would probably make conflicts even worse.

That Europe "natives" are decreasing is a fact but this...
Arab Migrants Told “Swedish Women Require Real Men”
"We need reinforcement"
According to an investigation by Swedish newspaper Dala-Demokraten, Arab migrants are being promised ‘free blonde Swedish girls’ and taxpayer-funded luxury treatment if they pay people smugglers to help them reach Scandinavia.
https://youtu.be/1qfTsORJjqI

Eurabia Inshallah:)

Oops...
Comment: After the immigrant hostile newspaper Free Times published this article has Dala-Democrat chosen to remove the article from the Web.

I wonder how that "news" came to the US and England...

Trying to install "Western" values upon others wont work.
That would probably make conflicts even worse.

As Bush Jr., and the deranged Neo-Cons showed. In their attempt to do this (Wilsonian Democracy) in Afghanistan and Iraq.

And that is not so many years ago.

P.S. It worked with Japan.
Are there any other examples?

It worked with Japan.

Not!

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It worked with Japan.

Not!

I meant after the war.

I meant after the war.

Still not!!

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I meant after the war.

Still not!!

OK.
That means that trying to install "Western" values upon others wont work at all.
I'm not surprised really.

With the large flow of refugees, many educated refugees are coming to Sweden, that we do not take advantage of. For example, in health care. Is it not time to get a bypass for these people?
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76688
Hicham Altizini from Syria, about the frustration it means not to practice their profession and the long wait for the validation of their education. He knows that this waiting is true of many other doctors who come here. He also knows that Sweden needs a doctors and nurses.

Swedish minister wrongly says in TV: "To help a refugee in Sweden = helping localy." Fact: The cost is > 10 times higher to help in Sweden.

The World Bank has said that for the first time less than 10% of the world's population will be living in extreme poverty by the end of 2015.
The bank said it was using a new income figure of $1.90 per day to define extreme poverty, up from $1.25.
It forecasts that the proportion of the world's population in this category will fall from 12.8% in 2012 to 9.6%.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-34440567

This is really to much!

'Refugees' protesting in Sweden - Conditions are not top–notch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHjRpCYqKGk
OMG They have to walk 1500 meters to get food!
Oh dear. It's snowing.

New arrived Migrants angry Demand central housing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vacdGPAZLyM
Mohammad Khaled was one of thousands of Muslim migrants to arrive to Sweden and he and others was unhappy with what he was offered. The housing was not central enough, to far to schools and hospital for them.
There are and always have been very few hospitals in northern Sweden.
However healthcare clinics are there but not in every village.
The Sami people have lived there for many thousands years without these facilities until the 60's!

Welcome to Sweden.
Thats how ALL people live in the northern part of Sweden today!!!

This is really to much!

'Refugees' protesting in Sweden - Conditions are not top–notch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHjRpCYqKGk
OMG They have to walk 1500 meters to get food!
Oh dear. It's snowing.

New arrived Migrants angry Demand central housing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vacdGPAZLyM
Mohammad Khaled was one of thousands of Muslim migrants to arrive to Sweden and he and others was unhappy with what he was offered. The housing was not central enough, to far to schools and hospital for them.
There are and always have been very few hospitals in northern Sweden.
However healthcare clinics are there but not in every village.
The Sami people have lived there for many thousands years without these facilities until the 60's!

Welcome to Sweden.
Thats how ALL people live in the northern part of Sweden today!!!

Why do they believe they can enter another persons house and demand.....?
Good luck janne.
The 'ending' will not be pleasant.

Here is the place the "refugees" complain about.
Fredriksberg with 655 inhabitants in 2010.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fredriksberg,_Sweden
Here is the accomondation they do not like.
http://www.dt.se/dalarna/ludvika/asylsokande-bor-i-kok-pa-flyktingboende-i-fredriksberg
Yes. Some of thr buildings have no electricity or water in the kitchen.
Is it to much to ask if they could go to the next building for water?

And WiFi. Million laughs:)
Mooses don't use WiFi:)

Here is the place the "refugees" complain about.
Fredriksberg with 655 inhabitants in 2010.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fredriksberg,_Sweden
Here is the accomondation they do not like.
http://www.dt.se/dalarna/ludvika/asylsokande-bor-i-kok-pa-flyktingboende-i-fredriksberg
Yes. Some of thr buildings have no electricity or water in the kitchen.
Is it to much to ask if they could go to the next building for water?

And WiFi. Million laughs:)
Mooses don't use WiFi:)

Looks much cleaner than our immigrants encounter. After streaming across our border.
And much, much better than our Homeless encounter.
Janne...
If things go really bad, here in the USA.
Can I, and my wife, immigrate to your Country?
Remember: I do have Swedish blood.

Hehehe. You mean coming as a "refugee" from Florida to Sweden?
Usually it's the other way around.
Anyway. I don't see any problem do that if you apply for "uppehållstillstånd", Swedish Green Card, as an normal immigrant.
It's a lot easier to move if you live in the EU states.
Just pack your things and go.
However DNA profiling is not used in any country afaik:)

Hehehe. You mean coming as a "refugee" from Florida to Sweden?
Usually it's the other way around.
Anyway. I don't see any problem do that if you apply for "uppehållstillstånd", Swedish Green Card, as an normal immigrant.
It's a lot easier to move if you live in the EU states.
Just pack your things and go.
However DNA profiling is not used in any country afaik:)

Too bad.
My DNA does show Viking Blood.
Perhaps that explains many things.

Perhaps:)
The funny thing is that so many scandinavians/vikings from the southern part has DNA from the Basque region.
So the vikings may actually are from "french/spanish" origins:)

btw. Sometimes I have Viking temper:)

How many climate migrants will there be?
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-23899195