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Message 1992609 - Posted: 4 May 2019, 19:33:37 UTC
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Big Boy 4014, arrives at Laramie WY



It is now the largest, heaviest, and most powerful operational steam locomotive in the world.

Well done to Union Pacific for doing what no one though would happen, a Big Boy running under is own power again.




PS. In case you are wondering about the words"Big Boy" in chalk on the front, apparently the class series originally was to have been called the "Wasatch". One day, however, while one of the engines was being built, an unknown worker scrawled "Big Boy" in chalk on its front. With that, the legendary name was born and has stuck ever since.
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Message 1992612 - Posted: 4 May 2019, 20:09:52 UTC - in response to Message 1992609.  

4014 is Big, Bad, and will remain the most powerful steam loco until an Allegheny 2-6-6-6 is restored to operation and so far the Beast from the East is only a dream. UP should be real proud.
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Message 1992624 - Posted: 4 May 2019, 23:19:15 UTC - in response to Message 1992600.  

Bernie thanx for the link
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Message 1992625 - Posted: 4 May 2019, 23:47:02 UTC - in response to Message 1992624.  

Bernie thanx for the link
+1 ;-)

Cheers.
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Message 1992627 - Posted: 5 May 2019, 0:12:33 UTC - in response to Message 1992609.  
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I suspect that our steam engine which is has been in a Nashville park, and is now being restored, will be the biggest and the most powerful.
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Message 1992643 - Posted: 5 May 2019, 4:30:36 UTC - in response to Message 1992627.  

I suspect that our steam engine which is has been in a Nashville park, and is now being restored, will be the biggest and the most powerful.

FWIW, it is big and powerful, but a shadow of the Big Boy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NC%26StL_576
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Pacific_Big_Boy
and lest we forget the Allegheny
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2-6-6-6
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Message 1992649 - Posted: 5 May 2019, 5:47:38 UTC

Yep, never forget the Lima H8 Allegheny 2-6-6-6 at 7300hp was the most powerful steam loco ever designed.
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Message 1992650 - Posted: 5 May 2019, 5:49:25 UTC

until an Allegheny 2-6-6-6 is restored to operation


I think that is a far of if not impossible dream. CSX do not have the same history of restoring or running steam.

UP had 8 Big Boys to choose from when they decided to restore one. There are apparently only 2 Allegheny 2-6-6-6's left, one of which was damaged in a flood and was only "cosmetically" restored.

Of course the overall factor is cost, UP was willing to spend the money, CSX apparently is not.

Whilst I didn't expect to see a Big Boy steam again, I certainly do not expect to see an Allegheny 2-6-6-6 do the same, sad though that may be.
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Message 1992652 - Posted: 5 May 2019, 7:01:20 UTC - in response to Message 1992650.  

until an Allegheny 2-6-6-6 is restored to operation


I think that is a far of if not impossible dream. CSX do not have the same history of restoring or running steam.

UP had 8 Big Boys to choose from when they decided to restore one. There are apparently only 2 Allegheny 2-6-6-6's left, one of which was damaged in a flood and was only "cosmetically" restored.

Of course the overall factor is cost, UP was willing to spend the money, CSX apparently is not.

Whilst I didn't expect to see a Big Boy steam again, I certainly do not expect to see an Allegheny 2-6-6-6 do the same, sad though that may be.

Yes, but it would be magnificent.
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Message 1993084 - Posted: 8 May 2019, 5:52:19 UTC

Found this web site mentioned on one of my Facebook Groups...

Map of Abandoned Railroad Rights-of-Way.

This is a working map primarily of abandoned railroad lines across North America, with layers to include abandonments across the rest of the world, tourist trains and heritage railways, and unbuilt railroads.

This map is incomplete, and will almost certainly remain incomplete. For the purposes of this map; the terms railbanked, out of service, disused, and abandoned are used interchangeably.

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Message 1993281 - Posted: 9 May 2019, 16:12:28 UTC

From Railway Age: Union Pacific: Golden at 150

COVER STORY, MAY 2019 - Railway Age antecedent American Railway Times, May 15, 1869: “On May 10, the last rail connecting the tracks of the Union and the Central Pacific Railroads was spiked in place, thus giving a continuous railway line across the continent. The blows of the hammer driving home the last spike were heard simultaneously by the aid of the telegraphic wires at the extreme eastern and western sides of the continent; and in many places the marked event was celebrated by the ringing of bells, the firing of salutes, and the interchange of congratulations between the different sections of the country.

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Message 1994084 - Posted: 17 May 2019, 21:35:30 UTC
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Big Boy 4014 and 844 have returned to Laramie WY where they will be till Sunday morning

Long shot arriving:



Closer



The train then reversed onto the siding opposite the depot



These pictures are from the cameras of Virtual Railfan, who will have the two cameras live on youtube here

Laramie East Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aoYMiBSAIQ
Laramie PTZ Cam: https://youtu.be/6UNnU6ELrpU
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Message 1994130 - Posted: 18 May 2019, 1:39:42 UTC - in response to Message 1994084.  

Wow! Loco porn! ;)

Great pics Bernie. It's good to see a real strong loco on the rails.
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Message 1994175 - Posted: 18 May 2019, 9:50:39 UTC

If only someone had saved a Niagara class locomotive...
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Message 1994193 - Posted: 18 May 2019, 14:06:03 UTC - in response to Message 1994175.  

If only someone had saved a Niagara class locomotive...

There is a live steam replica of the Niagara in the UK, it took 25 years to build I read.
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Message 1994301 - Posted: 19 May 2019, 6:44:17 UTC - in response to Message 1994205.  

Now if one wants a fast and powerful steam loco, look no farther than the PRR T1 4-4-4-4 Duplex.

6,550hp and it seems a max speed reportedly of 140mph.
A replica #5550 is currently being constructed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_Railroad_5550

It will use Coal as originally designed, PRR Class T1 4-4-4-4 Steam Locomotive #5550 being built with the aim of crushing the record for the fastest Steam Passenger Train in the world, which is currently being held by the Mallard in the UK at 125.88mph, the Class T1 is reported as being able to run at 140mph. Most of the PRR is within the Norfolk Southern railroad.
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Message 1994302 - Posted: 19 May 2019, 6:54:39 UTC

I do hope they manage to find a suitable stretch of track to do these trials on, as just now the US has no "proper" high speed lines where such trials could take place.
Having been involved in the current "steel on steel" record (AGV at 544kph) I know how much work is involved in the preparation and running of them, these days it's not just a case of getting out there and "opening the taps wide and see how fast she will go" as the authorities have placed all sorts of obstacles in the way :-(
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Message 1994305 - Posted: 19 May 2019, 7:15:46 UTC

From what I read a lot of good changes have happened since the T1 locos ran back in 1948, the PRR was located in what is now the Norfolk Southern territory which used to be Conrail.Here's a link
Both the Mallard and the T1 use 80 inch drive wheels, I really wish them good luck in this endeavor as they are according to the website 32.8% complete.
The original budget was $10 Million, thanks to the Tender that was reduced to $7 Million.
Here's a link showing their progress to date:
https://prrt1steamlocomotivetrust.org/

The goal is simple; to provide mainline steam excursion service, and to set the World Speed Record for a steam locomotive.

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Message 1994310 - Posted: 19 May 2019, 8:39:40 UTC

Lots can happen, however as far as I remember Norfolk and Southern have withdrawn support for steam excursions.

Still as it is at least 11 years away I have to wonder if I personally will ever see it run.
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Message 1994320 - Posted: 19 May 2019, 12:30:27 UTC

This is very sad and makes me wonder just what satisfaction, they got out of it.

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