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SongBird Send message Joined: 23 Oct 01 Posts: 104 Credit: 164,826,157 RAC: 297 |
Russian entrepreneur launches $100 million search for aliens, backed by Stephen Hawking
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Zalster Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 5517 Credit: 528,817,460 RAC: 242 |
watch the announcement, starts around 10:39 into video stream http://livestream.com/accounts/6714632/MilnerHawkingGlobalScienceInitiative/videos/93607230 |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
Where does that leave Seti@Home? It depends on activity and efforts of SETI@home staff to get into. To participate in this initiative and to make SETI@home established infrastructure part of it. |
S@NL - John van Gorsel Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 193 Credit: 139,673,078 RAC: 0 |
From the transcript: “All the data will remain open,†Milner said. Internet users can help analyze the data using Berkeley’s SETI@home software. Seti@Netherlands website |
Zalster Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 5517 Credit: 528,817,460 RAC: 242 |
Watch the video at 25 minutes 08 seconds |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
I have to register my cynicism, in that to my knowledge no prior researchers were contacted with respect to the software aspect. Maybe they just decided to leave me out of the loop, but doesn't sound very open then. [Edit: I see the 4NFFT autocorrelation method I invented used, well the gloves will come off hawking, lol] "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
Zalster Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 5517 Credit: 528,817,460 RAC: 242 |
sieving the data as they receive it (1 hr 15 minutes into video)...does that mean a new machine?? |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
From a quick look it seems like they want to setup the exact same thing as FIRSST. Or is this someone that is looking to fund the FIRSST initiative? SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
From a quick look it seems like they want to setup the exact same thing as FIRSST. Or is this someone that is looking to fund the FIRSST initiative? I don't know either. seems like some other agenda (the people didn't convince me) "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14650 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
SETI@Home have put it on the front page here as a supported initiative. Big boost for SETI@home from Yuri Milner's Breakthrough Listen Initiative Discussion thread in the News area |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
SETI@Home have put it on the front page here as a supported initiative. Awesome. Well I hope they inform me if any of my code or algorithms might be used. A Shame if not, maybe could save them some work (and earn some $$$). "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
Once cosmologist Alan Guth of MIT received a mail from Yuri Milner saying "You have been awarded a million US dollars". He almost fell from the chair. His bank account was 200 dollars. Tullio |
Starman Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 204 Credit: 81,351,915 RAC: 25 |
Well, all we can do is hope we will get some more resources (money) invested in Seti@Home and we can get some consistency. This is great news though. |
Todderbert Send message Joined: 17 Jun 99 Posts: 221 Credit: 53,153,779 RAC: 0 |
I was most excited when I read about the team getting scope time. Money makes things happen, and I felt elated that they can now point the scope where they think ETI may be. I'm sure listening to the recent water worlds found would be a nice start. If our computer resources are allowed to help search this huge new influx of data, it will be amazing. |
BANZAI56 Send message Joined: 17 May 00 Posts: 139 Credit: 47,299,948 RAC: 2 |
We should all be even more excited to hear about efforts to actually process and analyze the data we have already crunched! You know, for the project to actually do some science on the data which we have collated. Clearly should be a GREAT place to start. Suspiciously, I find no one here or elsewhere is even talking about that aspect of this new initiative. It would be wasted effort for anyone to try and reinvent the wheel when we already have most of the drivetrain here. Money for more scope time is great, but how about knowing where best to point it? That information may be best gleaned from this massive database we continue adding results to, no? By the same token, adding more results to a database no one (at the moment) seems interested in/or capable of processing leaves one wondering if we're approaching the definition of insanity. Seems like if SETI@Home has collected information of value over the years, now is the time for it to be put to use and allow it to shine. If not, be honest, call it what it is and let it go... |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22182 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
...In part the questions about the next stage of the process have been addressed in posts from Eric & Matt. The summary goes something like this: The first idea was to use a real-time process known as "Nipicker" to correlate the results, but it failed, so there was an attempt at "Nitpicker2", but it failed mostly due to the size of the data to be handled and the lack of money to provide hardware and software to do it that way. Now there is another concept being developed, "slicing" the data into smaller segments and not doing the correlation in real-time. This is currently in the early stages of development, I don't think it has even hit "trial of a trial" stage. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Zalster Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 5517 Credit: 528,817,460 RAC: 242 |
Rob, Did you watch the video where they were talking about sieving the data as they received it in order to decide what to keep and what to throw away? That was why I posted the question about a new equipment further up in the thread. I knew they were having issues with "Nipicker" and was wondering if this was an attempt to correct this deficiency? Zalster |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22182 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
My comment was in response to Banza156's not yours. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
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