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Message 1821719 - Posted: 4 Oct 2016, 14:04:33 UTC - in response to Message 1821718.  
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So where is the wikileaks damning evidence?

Hillary has already been damaged.

We know that but were the Trump die hard supports not saying this was to be the coup de grâce.

The release, or non release, may not matter.

Both are Damaged Goods.

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Message 1821718 - Posted: 4 Oct 2016, 14:00:49 UTC - in response to Message 1821713.  

So where is the wikileaks damning evidence?

Hillary has already been damaged.

We know that but were the Trump die hard supports not saying this was to be the coup de grâce.
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Message 1821713 - Posted: 4 Oct 2016, 13:49:24 UTC - in response to Message 1821693.  

So where is the wikileaks damning evidence?

Hillary has already been damaged.
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Message 1821710 - Posted: 4 Oct 2016, 13:35:24 UTC - in response to Message 1821690.  

And WHO do you think leaked the Donald's returns to the NYT. It's already been proven that nobody will suffer any punishment at the IRS as they will be investigated by the FBI!

Well, we know with 100% certainty it wasn't a tax agency that leaked. Two of the three copies weren't signed. A tax agency would never have an unsigned copy! These are Trump's copies!
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Message 1821693 - Posted: 4 Oct 2016, 12:42:44 UTC

So where is the wikileaks damning evidence?
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Message 1821690 - Posted: 4 Oct 2016, 12:35:44 UTC
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-The IRS broke the law in denying tax-exempt status to a number of conservative fundraiser organizations.

And WHO do you think leaked the Donald's returns to the NYT. It's already been proven that nobody will suffer any punishment at the IRS as they will be investigated by the FBI!

There is no rule of law in the world there is rule of money or rule of power.

Life is a S#*t Sandwich. The more 'bread' in your sandwich, the less S#*t you have to digest.......

Thanks to Directory Comy they should change their acronym to the FUBAR.

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Message 1821689 - Posted: 4 Oct 2016, 12:30:56 UTC
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Both Trump and Clinton need to be... flushed out of US Politics.

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BTW: Does anyone 'Smell the Fear' regarding these silly, not going to work, attacks against Trump?

Since there is no valid reason to vote FOR Hillary. Excepting she is NOT Trump:

Trump wins.
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Message 1821625 - Posted: 4 Oct 2016, 4:05:16 UTC - in response to Message 1821616.  

Doesn't look like all those accountants have advised him very well about his Foundation. State Attorney General Orders Trump Foundation to Cease Raising Money in New York

Note that Trump's opponent solicited donations to THEIR foundation from foreign leaders to obtain SPECIAL ACCESS to Clinton during her term as Secretary of State.
and BINGO was his name-o. She didn't solicit NY residents, he did. Oh and all those donations came before she was secretary of state. How did the donor know what her future job title would be?

That Felon Trump ... member of the 47% ...
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Message 1821616 - Posted: 4 Oct 2016, 3:35:00 UTC - in response to Message 1821592.  

Doesn't look like all those accountants have advised him very well about his Foundation. State Attorney General Orders Trump Foundation to Cease Raising Money in New York


NYS AG Eric T. Schneiderman is a Democrat. 'nuff said.

Yes, USA Federal, State, and Local Politics *IS* that corrupt, and will remain so as long as the two-party political system exists in the USA.

Note that Trump's opponent solicited donations to THEIR foundation from foreign leaders to obtain SPECIAL ACCESS to Clinton during her term as Secretary of State.

Money laundering, influence peddling, BRIBERY...

Yet, nary a peep out of the Various Government Officials who are supposed to prosecute these matters.

Trump may be a fascist dictator wannabe...
but Clinton is a mobster. She OWNS the Democrat political establishment which currently infests the US Federal Executive Branch.

Both Trump and Clinton need to be... flushed out of US Politics.
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
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Message 1821592 - Posted: 4 Oct 2016, 1:44:47 UTC - in response to Message 1821588.  

Doesn't look like all those accountants have advised him very well about his Foundation. State Attorney General Orders Trump Foundation to Cease Raising Money in New York
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Message 1821590 - Posted: 4 Oct 2016, 1:04:29 UTC - in response to Message 1821588.  

This story is, until the Trump is charged with violating the Tax Law in the USA (which ain't bloody likely since he likely employs a legion of accountants to make sure he doesn't), this entire story is a great, big, non-issue.
It is a story that he is part of the 47%!
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Message 1821588 - Posted: 4 Oct 2016, 1:02:32 UTC - in response to Message 1821578.  

Trump has “a fiduciary responsibility to his business, his family and his employees to pay no more tax than legally required,” the campaign said in a statement.


Of course, even if you buy the argument that Trump had a “fiduciary duty” to investors to minimize the tax obligations of his corporations, partnerships and LLCs, the leaked documents in question were portions of Trump’s personal income tax returns, not any corporate or partnership income tax returns. So there were no investors to let down.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-biggest-threat-to-trumps-business-trump/2016/10/03/72f7440a-89a3-11e6-875e-2c1bfe943b66_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-d%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.2cefa59fe47b


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If it is on a Personal Tax Return, Trump had the fiduciary duty (as do ALL individual taxpayers) to his family to legally minimize ALL Taxes paid.

Take the case of John Q. Public, an individual with a regular job. Nothing in the law FORCES him to take the 'personal exemption(s)' or 'standard deduction' on his income to reduce the income taxes he owes on his wages. Yet, he would be kind of crazy not to do so. Mr. Public has the fiduciary duty to himself and his family to LEGALLY minimize the taxes he pays. He does so.

Same with Trump.

This story is, until the Trump is charged with violating the Tax Law in the USA (which ain't bloody likely since he likely employs a legion of accountants to make sure he doesn't), this entire story is a great, big, non-issue.
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

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Message 1821586 - Posted: 4 Oct 2016, 0:53:37 UTC - in response to Message 1821577.  

Secondly, perhaps you need to understand NOLs in the USA.

https://www.irs.gov/publications/p536/ar02.html

This should help. But be mindful that Trump supposedly did this in 1995... and the above link is about NOLs in 2015... 20 years LATER.=

Point him to the 1995 version https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-prior/p536--1995.pdf

If Trump has an NOL going back to 95, every year of tax return going back to when he incurred the NOL could be under audit. IRS likes to sneak at you that way hoping to find something in dozens of years of stuff, much of which you won't remember to hang you out to dry. Bully for them!

@guy, sorry you lose. The tax returns aren't the IRS tax returns, so the IRS wasn't involved. As they say when a source is false on one detail, where it doesn't matter, you must distrust that source on all matters. Really, when they were mailed from the Trump Tower in NY you think they came from Ogden UT?! It might be an inside job, but I smell a false flag operation and remember Putin and his buddies love false flag operations!
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Message 1821578 - Posted: 4 Oct 2016, 0:17:38 UTC - in response to Message 1821577.  

Trump has “a fiduciary responsibility to his business, his family and his employees to pay no more tax than legally required,” the campaign said in a statement.


Of course, even if you buy the argument that Trump had a “fiduciary duty” to investors to minimize the tax obligations of his corporations, partnerships and LLCs, the leaked documents in question were portions of Trump’s personal income tax returns, not any corporate or partnership income tax returns. So there were no investors to let down.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-biggest-threat-to-trumps-business-trump/2016/10/03/72f7440a-89a3-11e6-875e-2c1bfe943b66_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-d%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.2cefa59fe47b
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Message 1821577 - Posted: 4 Oct 2016, 0:11:42 UTC - in response to Message 1821573.  
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What a load of B/S your 50 states don't live together piecefully hence the constant talk of taking up arms against others .

If you vote Trump all that will happen is your going to go down hill even faster than you are now .

18 years no taxes .

That's smart !! crap on it's criminal and shows that what Trump is a selfish criminal
.

A smart business man can run his company and pay his taxes only a bad business man needs to rort the tax system to make money so it's not smart as Burnie Sanders said if everyone did not pay taxes you would not have a country .

But I spose the idiots who don't get it how your country has become stuffed up got that way and buy whom and you sir are one off the idiots

You can pee off too asking us to now join your Navy in the south China sea

What you that great you need our help again to start a new war and use us as the escape goat like in Syria read my lips F-off you septic tanks

Fool us once shame on you ! , you wont get another try A/h's


Glenn,

First of all, the news article I saw on this did not say Trump DID use Net Operating Losses (NOL) to avoid paying taxes for 18 years... But that Trump COULD have done so.

Trump's $916 million net operating loss that the New York Times identified on his 1995 taxes — a loss that could have enabled him to avoid paying federal income taxes for 18 years — might have stemmed from poor business practices. For that, he would have only himself to blame.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/2016/10/02/trump-taxes-reagan-congress-depreciation-real-estate/91433192/

Secondly, perhaps you need to understand NOLs in the USA.

https://www.irs.gov/publications/p536/ar02.html

This should help. But be mindful that Trump supposedly did this in 1995... and the above link is about NOLs in 2015... 20 years LATER.

Next, how could something be CRIMINAL if it is done according to the LAW???

Now then, one might could make a case that this might be, maybe, immoral or perhaps unethical... Maybe...

But criminal?? Nope.

The proper remedy here would be to get the 'bad' law changed, not to try to crucify those that merely followed the law.

It is hardly criminal for a businessman to follow the law in order to maximize profit. Depending on the circumstances, he might have had a fiduciary duty to do so.
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
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Message 1821573 - Posted: 3 Oct 2016, 23:27:54 UTC - in response to Message 1821481.  

In addition...

Whenever you hear the phrase "American exceptionalism," most people don't know what that means. Our "exception" in history was that we flipped the norm. We empowered "the people" over our government. There are countless examples in world history (and in current world events) in which the results are poverty, tyranny, and overall misery when government has absolute power over the people.

Philadelphia, 1776, "...all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed." The forms in which we are accustomed are deteriorating because of progressives and RINOs and we continue to allow this to happen because these incremental evils are sufferable!

Americans are no longer taught about our constitution--how it came to be--the goal which was trying to be achieved. The preamble to our constitution states, " We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, ..." it doesn't say "in order to form a *perfect*" union. We are still trying to achieve that goal--although we've been getting farther and farther away from that goal since the early 20th century because of progressives and RINOs.

A system of 50 states which can stand on their own individually makes a nation which can stand on its own. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link! Our founders knew it would remain a goal for a long time. Given human nature, some would not be able to stand on their own all the time. But allowing them to experiment individually would demonstrate what works and what doesn't work. Those who became successful would shine the light on success for those who could not stand on their own... yet. Maybe we'll never achieve this goal. Probably won't achieve this goal in my life time. But as long as a majority of states are individually strong (financially, not militarily), we are winning! A strong group of states makes a strong nation.

The tax and spend liberal keeps punishing the successful states to reward the failing states.

We know we will continue down the path of financial failure as a nation with hillary and her stupid catch phrase, "stronger together." We're hoping we at least start to get back on track in the right direction with Trump.


What a load of B/S your 50 states don't live together piecefully hence the constant talk of taking up arms against others .

If you vote Trump all that will happen is your going to go down hill even faster than you are now .

18 years no taxes .

That's smart !! crap on it's criminal and shows that what Trump is a selfish criminal .

A smart business man can run his company and pay his taxes only a bad business man needs to rort the tax system to make money so it's not smart as Burnie Sanders said if everyone did not pay taxes you would not have a country .

But I spose the idiots who don't get it how your country has become stuffed up got that way and buy whom and you sir are one off the idiots

You can pee off too asking us to now join your Navy in the south China sea

What you that great you need our help again to start a new war and use us as the escape goat like in Syria read my lips F-off you septic tanks

Fool us once shame on you ! , you wont get another try A/h's
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Message 1821477 - Posted: 3 Oct 2016, 12:30:28 UTC
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I do not advocate 'war between the States'. What I do advocate is as follows.

1. The democratic right of self-determination.
2. The philosophy that the best Government is one that is as local as possible.
3. The philosophy that the best Government is one that is as 'small' as possible.

MK...

We agree 100%. But disagree how to get there and the dangers.

Overrun by the yellow hoard? Careful, your racism is showing there.

socialism k...

Only positive regarding Trump?

The Left Wing and Progressive Racist and Bigoted Hoards. Are displaying their real beliefs.

They may try, as they always do, to deny the foundation of their disgusting beliefs.

BTW: It is becoming more and more obvious. That the reaction, by the voter's to these thugs. Will result in a Trump Victory.
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