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Message 1824204 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 13:45:16 UTC

If Trump is willing to force himself onto women as god's gift to women

Is he going to force himself onto citizens as god's gift to ...

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Message 1824243 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 17:47:16 UTC - in response to Message 1824189.  

Against a Sexual Assaulter/Rape Enabler, and Threatening a Rape Victim Hillary?

No. Just allegations.


Well I think if you do a little searching you will find, like I did earlier, that all the allegatios against Hillary are fairly easily dismissed.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/11/hillary-clinton-bill-accusers-jones-willey-broaddrick
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Message 1824244 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 17:47:39 UTC - in response to Message 1824189.  
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Against a Sexual Assaulter/Rape Enabler, and Threatening a Rape Victim Hillary?

No. Just allegations.


Well I think if you do a little searching you will find for the rape victim, like I did earlier, that all the allegations against Hillary are fairly easily dismissed.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/11/hillary-clinton-bill-accusers-jones-willey-broaddrick
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Message 1824250 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 18:08:51 UTC

I am a white, union member, working class male.
I support women.
I do not pretend to have greater understanding of the pressures women face in life. I do not belittle women because their experiences are different than mine.
What I do is extend my support to women with the belief that they know more about the experience of being a woman than I do.
If women say the playing field is tilted against them, my reaction is not to argue, rather, I seek ways to level the field.

Some of you fellow SETI members should take a time out from your attacks and actually consider what women are facing in our society.

Trump is a pig. Those who justify his behaviours are pigs.
Pull your heads out of your arses and take a look around. The times, they are a changin'.


As A White, Non-Union Member, Non-Working Class Male-Living In An Internet Enabled Box on Skid Row-

May I Have Your Permission to feel about or search blindly or uncertainly with the hands aka GROPE You in MY MIND or In Person?

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!
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Message 1824276 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 20:21:30 UTC

Everybody JUMP on the Bandwagon! Trump groped me! Get your name up in lights! Your 15 minutes of fame awaits!

Maybe we should trot out all the time honored Democratic tradition of sexual predation, we could start with FDR, move on to JFK, RFK and Teddy, then there's even Jimmy Carter who 'lusted in his heart'. Then on to Gary Hart and the 'Monkey Business'. We could go on and on for both sides but we're still deflecting from the issue.

NAMELY: Do you really want to live, and your children and grandchildren to pay for the fiscal irresponsibility, and live under the 'Justice' that will be brought into being by a Supreme Court molded by Hiliary Clinton?

That's the only question that you should really consider when you cast your ballot.

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Message 1824282 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 20:32:23 UTC - in response to Message 1824276.  

What about these, cannot see a Democrat tag on these Presidents.

George H. W. Bush And Jennifer Fitzgerald
Dwight D. Eisenhower And Kay Summersby
Thomas Jefferson And Sally Hemings
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Message 1824283 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 20:39:02 UTC

Just in case there is a need to be reminded what the ISSUES are:

Wasteful Spending
By 2017, the national debt will be $20 TRILLION. That is not just obscene, it is unsustainable — and arguably the single greatest threat to our national security.

Taxes
Today’s federal tax code does all the wrong things. It penalizes productivity, savings and investment, while rewarding inefficiency and designating winners and losers according to political whim.

Term Limits
We need term limits to bring back democratic representation. We need to balance the advantages of institutional knowledge with the dangers of institutional representation.

Jobs
As governors, both Gary Johnson and Bill Weld supported policies that incentivized job growth. In 2012, Gov. Johnson was praised as having the best “job creation” record of all presidential candidates. And Weld transformed Massachusetts from having the highest to the lowest unemployment rate.

Civil Liberties
Whether it’s a Republican who wants the government to tell you who to love, or a Democrat who wants the government to look through your cell phone, the threat to our civil liberties needs to be stopped by a renewed appreciation for what it means.

Foreign Policy and National Defense
The objective of both our foreign policy and our military should be straightforward: To protect us from harm and to allow us to exercise our freedoms.

Religious Freedom and Non-Discrimination Laws
Gov. Gary Johnson will zealously defend the Constitution of the United States and all of its amendments, including religious freedom. The right to practice one's religion is a fundamental part of being an American and must be preserved. Johnson personally credits his own religious upbringing.

Support Our Veterans
Gary Johnson believes strongly that we have a solemn obligation to honor those who have fought for us, sacrificed for us, and put their lives on the line to defend our great nation. When it comes to fulfilling that obligation, there can be no equivocation.

Immigration
Having served as Governor of a border state, Gary Johnson knows the complex issues associated with immigration reform first hand. Solving immigration problems is not as easy as building a wall or simply offering amnesty.


Criminal Justice Reform
How is it that the United States, the land of the free, has one of the highest incarceration rates in the world? The answer is simple: Over time, the politicians have “criminalized” far too many aspects of people’s personal lives.

Internet Freedom
It is no coincidence that the unprecedented innovation and entrepreneurship the Internet has allowed and the resulting improvements to our daily lives have happened largely without interference from the government.

Environment
The environment is a precious gift and must be protected. Governors Johnson and Weld believe strongly that the first responsibility of government is to protect citizens from those who would do them harm, whether it be a foreign aggressor, a criminal — or a bad actor.

Education
Governors Gary Johnson and Bill Weld believe nothing is more important to our future as a country than educating our next generations.

Abortion
Governor Johnson’s approach to governing is based on a belief that individuals should be allowed to make their own choices in their personal lives. Abortion is a deeply personal choice.

War on Drugs
We can save thousands of lives and billions of dollars by simply changing our approach to drug abuse.
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Message 1824286 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 20:57:36 UTC - in response to Message 1824283.  
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Jobs, or rather unemployment.

Logic says that full 100% employment can never be achieved, and therefore depending on where you look, the minimum number of unemployed, those unemployed and looking for jobs, possible is between 4% and 6.5%. The US rate can be found here. Bureau of Labor Statistics - Employment Situation Summary, 8:30 a.m. (EDT) Friday, October 7, 2016

Obviously there will be pockets in the US where it is much higher, but is unemployment a real or perceived problem, considering that the GDP is growing, albeit slowly. Bureau of Economic Analysis, 8:30 A.M. EDT, Thursday, September 29, 2016

Jobs are not usually threatened when the economy is growing.
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Message 1824290 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 21:12:07 UTC - in response to Message 1824286.  

I think that Jobs are a real issue.
1. Continued job creation by the private sector is essential to maintaining economic growth, not the other way around. We are a consumer society.
2. "Unemployment" figures are little or no longer an actual measure of jobs. Those figures do NOT include huge segments of the population that are no longer recieving unemployment benefits, forced to work jobs "under the table" and people who never qualified for unemployment benefits in the first place.

So I think it is a real issue for most people. Don't confuse Jobs with Unemployment. The government numbers for unemployment do not have much meaning.
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Message 1824292 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 21:22:08 UTC - in response to Message 1824290.  
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I think that Jobs are a real issue.
1. Continued job creation by the private sector is essential to maintaining economic growth, not the other way around. We are a consumer society.
2. "Unemployment" figures are little or no longer an actual measure of jobs. Those figures do NOT include huge segments of the population that are no longer recieving unemployment benefits, forced to work jobs "under the table" and people who never qualified for unemployment benefits in the first place.

So I think it is a real issue for most people. Don't confuse Jobs with Unemployment. The government numbers for unemployment do not have much meaning.

What you say is true, but it has always been true, in nearly all countries. Before I retired, in periods when out of work, they being relatively few and all short, I never signed up. Because I knew, with my financial situation, Military Pension etc, I would not get any benefits and didn't want the hassle the government officials always hand out.
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Message 1824300 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 21:43:30 UTC - in response to Message 1824292.  

Thanks for the links. There is more info than I can digest on those two government bureaus websites. I'll leave that to the Business Programs on TV to interpret for me.

One other note however. I have always felt uneasy about including local, state and federal spending as a part of GDP. It's like saying, "Look at how productive we are making you by giving back your own money."
Somehow GDP should probably not include money spent by government.
Not sure what that number would be called but it would stop the foolish confusion people have over taxation being good for the economy.
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Message 1824313 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 22:09:10 UTC

Well, it's suppertime. Let's make meatloaf with the Trumps:

http://www.marthastewart.com/996892/meatloaf-donald
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Message 1824317 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 22:17:30 UTC

In the vein of my earlier post re: hunkering down, the following from the Nobel Laureate ..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9EKqQWPjyo

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Message 1824338 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 23:36:48 UTC - in response to Message 1823941.  

Australia must be proud of the important legislative work done by the Upper House of the NSW parliament.


"Donald Trump for President"? Australia?
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Message 1824339 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 23:40:03 UTC - in response to Message 1823956.  

Interesting that these charges of unsolicited touching, kissing, groping, etc., etc., come YEARS after the alleged offense instead of being filed against the 'perpetrator' at the time they occurred.

Me thinks something smells of fish in the sun on the fourth of July.....


Yes, why did they wait so long to accuse Cosby?
Oh, that allegation that Trump raped a teen? That the mainstream didn't quite say much about? The trial's been scheduled.
YAP!
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Message 1824340 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 23:42:15 UTC - in response to Message 1823988.  

Interesting that these charges of unsolicited touching, kissing, groping, etc., etc., come YEARS after the alleged offense instead of being filed against the 'perpetrator' at the time they occurred.

Me thinks something smells of fish in the sun on the fourth of July.....

The excuse of 'years after...' cannot be used as Trump himself said of his Bill Clinton allegations, by saying accusers should be believed and that decades-old misdeeds matter.


In 1998, didn't Trump call Paula Jones a fat looser? Er, loser?
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Message 1824341 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 23:46:50 UTC - in response to Message 1824005.  
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Children...
You, and The Capitalist Ruling Class incorrect belief, that they are more intelligent than The Proletariat. Will ensure a Trump victory.
Question: Where is the vaunted intelligence of those who cannot understand this?
Answer: I have looked and looked, and haven't found it. It must be very well hidden :) :) :)

CLYDE.
As in all your posts you make sure that you get a litany of insults in before you say anything.
Insults about the last poster, against female posters, and claims that you, an old man know better.
Well I'm an old man, and call your BS.

You say that you'd like to see Joe Biden on the ticket.
As if Joe Biden would even agree with you on anything.
Joe Biden does a have a "Moral Compass", has fought for Women's Rights, and supports Hillary Clinton.
What is your "Moral Compass", and have you ever fought for the rights of Women?
Your attacks against Es99 are pathetic at best.


There is a difference between feminism, and 2nd-wave radical feminism.

The first fought for women's civil rights under the law, and was successful (in the USA) with the ratification of the 19th Amendment to the US Constitution on Aug. 18, 1920.

The first fought sexism.

The 2nd... fights sexism by being sexist.

Case in point: the Candidacy of H. Clinton for President of the USA in 2016.

No matter how much voters that happen to be men lay out a case for not supporting H. Clinton's candidacy on grounds of not liking H. Clinton's political stances, or disapproving of H. Clinton's behavior (violating laws all over the place) a 2nd-wave radical feminist will tend to accuse (at least in my experience both here and elsewhere) the man of being sexist... not supporting H. Clinton's candidacy solely because H. Clinton is female.

It does not matter how willing the man would be to vote for a woman for President that they thought would do a good job. Personally, I can think of several this election cycle (Condoleezza Rice, where were you?). Sadly, either they did not run, or they got defeated in the primaries.

But noooo... not supporting H. Clinton's candidacy gets men branded a sexist by the 2nd-wave radical feminists. sigh...

No... I call BS on the 2nd-wave radical feminists.


Jaclyn Glenn for President, 2036!
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Message 1824342 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 23:49:03 UTC - in response to Message 1824006.  

Fact of the matter is all of the sniping is just cover for lack of honest, workable plan to correct past mistakes.

60% of the voters are wrong to blindly support the Authoritarian Liberals and Authoritarian Conservatives.

40% are bright enough or honest enough to realize the other 60% are full of crap and are willing to lie and believe lies in order to gain the power to tell everyone else how to live and what to do.
Further the 60% are blithely willing to destroy their own country and their children's future for their own selfish satisfaction of wielding political power.

100% of us loose thanks to the unending sniping and bickering of the 60%.


Sorry, I'm lose-ing track as to where you came up with those percents.
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Message 1824343 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 23:52:08 UTC - in response to Message 1824027.  

There is a difference between feminism, and 2nd-wave radical feminism.

The first fought for women's civil rights under the law, and was successful (in the USA) with the ratification of the 19th Amendment to the US Constitution on Aug. 18, 1920.

The first fought sexism.

The 2nd... fights sexism by being sexist.

[...]
No... I call BS on the 2nd-wave radical feminists.

In other words, good feminists only fought for equality with men one or two times a year (at most). bad feminists want equality the rest of the time. Outrageous.


Check out Jaclyn Glenn (liberal, atheist, pro-LGBTQ) as she goes against Anita Sarkeesian, then.
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Message 1824344 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 23:56:12 UTC - in response to Message 1824055.  

Donald Trump caught saying he will date 10-year-old girl 'in ten years' in new video

I think I threw up in my mouth a little..


Daaang, almost as good as when I referred to "The Waterboy" when talking with Chuck 10 years ago. OK, maybe better. :)
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