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Message 1824113 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 2:30:18 UTC - in response to Message 1824104.  
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Uh huh. That'll be nice if true.
... but I'm betting not true.


The subject was supposed to be: "Donald Trump for President?"

In my opinion, it's not going to happen.
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Message 1824120 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 3:22:24 UTC

I am a white, union member, working class male.
I support women.
I do not pretend to have greater understanding of the pressures women face in life. I do not belittle women because their experiences are different than mine.
What I do is extend my support to women with the belief that they know more about the experience of being a woman than I do.
If women say the playing field is tilted against them, my reaction is not to argue, rather, I seek ways to level the field.

Some of you fellow SETI members should take a time out from your attacks and actually consider what women are facing in our society.

Trump is a pig. Those who justify his behaviours are pigs.
Pull your heads out of your arses and take a look around. The times, they are a changin'.
I do not fight fascists because I think I can win.
I fight them because they are fascists.
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Message 1824127 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 3:33:18 UTC - in response to Message 1824104.  

This is my last post under any Username.

It's been a Slice.

If true you will be missed by some.
As an aside I don't understand the practice of mobile user names, why?
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Message 1824142 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 5:00:02 UTC - in response to Message 1824102.  

Gary, the truth about BLM is that it's a separatist movement. And yes, I'm sick of BLM also. If we give BLM what they want, well, just look at the areas of Paris that no longer have police protection because the separatists there have been successful.

Thats probably not true either, is it?

Don't interrupt his delusion. That would be sexist. Besides he paid a lot for the chemical soup his brain swims in. :)
http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/nogozones.asp

I wonder how so many people can be taken in by bald faced lies. Or maybe I shouldn't considering the number of people who claim their religion is correct and all others are false.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religiosity_and_intelligence#Studies_comparing_religious_belief_and_IQ wrote:
In a 2013 meta-analysis, led by Professor Miron Zuckerman, of 63 scientific studies about IQ and religiosity, a negative relation between intelligence and religiosity was found in 53, and a positive relation in the remaining ten. Controlling for other factors, they can only confidently show strong negative correlation between intelligence and religiosity among American Protestants.[1] The meta-analysis discussed three possible explanations:

    *First, intelligent people are less likely to conform and, thus, are more likely to resist religious dogma.
    *Second, intelligent people tend to adopt an analytic (as opposed to intuitive) thinking style, which has been shown to undermine religious beliefs.
    *Third, Intelligent people may have less need for religious beliefs and practices, as some of the functions of religiosity can be given by intelligence instead. Such functions include the presentation of a sense that the world is orderly and predictable, a sense of personal control and self-regulation and a sense of enhancing self esteem and belongingness.

Controversial researcher Helmuth Nyborg and Richard Lynn, emeritus professor of psychology at the University of Ulster, compared belief in God and IQs.[3] Using data from a U.S. study of 6,825 adolescents, the authors found that the average IQ of atheists was 6 points higher than the average IQ of non-atheists.


Now where do sex perverts, like drumpf and his minions fit in?
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Message 1824159 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 8:07:37 UTC

Have at it Es. This second wave socialist feminist is keeping a beady eye on this thread but have to watch my blood pressure.
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Message 1824181 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 11:21:39 UTC - in response to Message 1824092.  
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What bothers me more than anything is the fact that the Politics Forum is
little more than a Sausage Fest.
The male perspective is voiced in Technicolor, but the Female perspective
is nearly non-existent, except for a few brilliant women, like Es99,
who when they bare their souls are ridiculed, beyond belief.

Exactly, which is why women don't report these things. It's why I've never reported any of the times I've been harassed, groped and verbally abused. Can you imagine going into a police station and having to tell your story to someone like Clyde and to have to convince them that, yes, what happened is actually a big traumatic deal and not a complement? Not just men being men, but a vile, frightening invasion of your person?


If they won't hear it from me, perhaps they will listen to Michelle:

Michelle Obama Denounces Trump’s Words

Es99 just loves to attack innocents.

Yes... Have arrested many males for either sexually abusing or raping females.

Yes... I have consoled many females after a brutal rape.

Es99... Your post is not only factually incorrect about me. But disgusting to anyone who has had to deal many times, with the aftermath of these crimes.

It has to be actual rape before it a problem? I see.

If you minimise what Trump has done you make sure it keeps on happening. If you defend him, you are not innocent. If you attack and belittle me when I tell you what he has bragged about doing is wrong, you are not innocent. You are very much part of the problem. You may well help pick up the pieces after its happened, but if you don't stand by me when I decry the culture that creates and supports rapists, then you are not innocent.

Es99...

Again a 'Straw Dog' argument. In order to 'cover up' your real beliefs.

Initially, it was just Trump's Speech, and I responded.

Later, a number of women came forwarded. Did I excuse Trump after that?

No, I did not. Despite your, and others of your type, repeating that lie about me.

It is your and others dismissal of those women accusing an Enabler of a Rapist and Sexual Assaulter. In addition to Hillary Threatening a Rape Victim! That I find 'true to type' and disgusting.

Es99...

I am treating all these women victims of Trump and Hillary with the necessary sympathy and respect they deserve.

Why are you, by your silence, dismissing and diminishing the women victims of Hillary and Bill?

Do you have an answer?
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Message 1824184 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 11:36:16 UTC

Former nuclear launch officers sign letter: Trump ‘should not have his finger on the button’
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/10-former-nuclear-launch-officers-sign-letter-trump-should-not-have-his-finger-on-the-button/2016/10/13/eef68fde-2468-4305-84d4-86033df53b3f_story.html

The letter, issued Thursday, says the decision to use nuclear weapons requires “composure, judgment, restraint and diplomatic skill” — all qualities that the former Air Force officers who signed it said Trump lacks.

“On the contrary, he has shown himself time and again to be easily baited and quick to lash out, dismissive of expert consultation and ill-informed of even basic military and international affairs — including, most especially, nuclear weapons,” the letter says. “Donald Trump should not be the nation’s commander-in-chief. He should not be entrusted with the nuclear launch codes. He should not have his finger on the button.”
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Message 1824186 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 11:47:38 UTC - in response to Message 1824181.  

In addition to Hillary Threatening a Rape Victim!


Any proof?
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Message 1824189 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 12:08:55 UTC - in response to Message 1824186.  
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In addition to Hillary Threatening a Rape Victim!


Any proof?

WinterKnight...

Proof?

Against Sexual Assaulter Trump?

No. Just allegations.

Against a Sexual Assaulter/Rape Enabler, and Threatening a Rape Victim Hillary?

No. Just allegations.

Why the silence and/or dismissal against some of the female victims?

Political?

Only a totally unethical and disgusting human being would dismiss one, and not the other. Because of who they wish to be the next President.
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Message 1824195 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 13:05:00 UTC

I am inspired by the posts in this thread, "Donald Trump for President?",
and reminded of my own correctness in not voting for either Trump or Clinton.

The big questions seem to be:
1. Who is a worse criminal?
2. Who is more morally deficient?

This thread has degenerated to the point that supporters of these two unfit candidates are slandering each other with words like Sexist and Stupid.

All indications are that most of you are correct. You are both sexist and stupid.
Return my faith in humanity. Discuss why you support the least criminal and lesser morally defecient candidate.

Sorry but I will be breaking the spam rule by sor of double-posting this.
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Message 1824202 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 13:30:03 UTC - in response to Message 1824195.  
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I am inspired by the posts in this thread, "Donald Trump for President?",
and reminded of my own correctness in not voting for either Trump or Clinton.

The big questions seem to be:
1. Who is a worse criminal?
2. Who is more morally deficient?

This thread has degenerated to the point that supporters of these two unfit candidates are slandering each other with words like Sexist and Stupid.

All indications are that most of you are correct. You are both sexist and stupid.
Return my faith in humanity. Discuss why you support the least criminal and lesser morally defecient candidate.

Sorry but I will be breaking the spam rule by sor of double-posting this.

Perhaps the two Threads should be combined into:

NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES?
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Message 1824204 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 13:45:16 UTC

If Trump is willing to force himself onto women as god's gift to women

Is he going to force himself onto citizens as god's gift to ...

Repent before it is too late.
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Message 1824207 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 13:59:24 UTC - in response to Message 1824204.  
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If Trump is willing to force himself onto women as god's gift to women

Is he going to force himself onto citizens as god's gift to ...

Repent before it is too late.

Gary...

And of course adding:

If Hillary is willing to Enable a Rapist/Sexual Assaulter, in addition to Threatening a Rape Victim. And she going to force herself onto citizens as god's gift to ...

Repent before it is too late.
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Message 1824243 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 17:47:16 UTC - in response to Message 1824189.  

Against a Sexual Assaulter/Rape Enabler, and Threatening a Rape Victim Hillary?

No. Just allegations.


Well I think if you do a little searching you will find, like I did earlier, that all the allegatios against Hillary are fairly easily dismissed.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/11/hillary-clinton-bill-accusers-jones-willey-broaddrick
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Message 1824244 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 17:47:39 UTC - in response to Message 1824189.  
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Against a Sexual Assaulter/Rape Enabler, and Threatening a Rape Victim Hillary?

No. Just allegations.


Well I think if you do a little searching you will find for the rape victim, like I did earlier, that all the allegations against Hillary are fairly easily dismissed.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/11/hillary-clinton-bill-accusers-jones-willey-broaddrick
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Message 1824250 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 18:08:51 UTC

I am a white, union member, working class male.
I support women.
I do not pretend to have greater understanding of the pressures women face in life. I do not belittle women because their experiences are different than mine.
What I do is extend my support to women with the belief that they know more about the experience of being a woman than I do.
If women say the playing field is tilted against them, my reaction is not to argue, rather, I seek ways to level the field.

Some of you fellow SETI members should take a time out from your attacks and actually consider what women are facing in our society.

Trump is a pig. Those who justify his behaviours are pigs.
Pull your heads out of your arses and take a look around. The times, they are a changin'.


As A White, Non-Union Member, Non-Working Class Male-Living In An Internet Enabled Box on Skid Row-

May I Have Your Permission to feel about or search blindly or uncertainly with the hands aka GROPE You in MY MIND or In Person?

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Message 1824276 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 20:21:30 UTC

Everybody JUMP on the Bandwagon! Trump groped me! Get your name up in lights! Your 15 minutes of fame awaits!

Maybe we should trot out all the time honored Democratic tradition of sexual predation, we could start with FDR, move on to JFK, RFK and Teddy, then there's even Jimmy Carter who 'lusted in his heart'. Then on to Gary Hart and the 'Monkey Business'. We could go on and on for both sides but we're still deflecting from the issue.

NAMELY: Do you really want to live, and your children and grandchildren to pay for the fiscal irresponsibility, and live under the 'Justice' that will be brought into being by a Supreme Court molded by Hiliary Clinton?

That's the only question that you should really consider when you cast your ballot.

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Message 1824282 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 20:32:23 UTC - in response to Message 1824276.  

What about these, cannot see a Democrat tag on these Presidents.

George H. W. Bush And Jennifer Fitzgerald
Dwight D. Eisenhower And Kay Summersby
Thomas Jefferson And Sally Hemings
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Message 1824283 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 20:39:02 UTC

Just in case there is a need to be reminded what the ISSUES are:

Wasteful Spending
By 2017, the national debt will be $20 TRILLION. That is not just obscene, it is unsustainable — and arguably the single greatest threat to our national security.

Taxes
Today’s federal tax code does all the wrong things. It penalizes productivity, savings and investment, while rewarding inefficiency and designating winners and losers according to political whim.

Term Limits
We need term limits to bring back democratic representation. We need to balance the advantages of institutional knowledge with the dangers of institutional representation.

Jobs
As governors, both Gary Johnson and Bill Weld supported policies that incentivized job growth. In 2012, Gov. Johnson was praised as having the best “job creation” record of all presidential candidates. And Weld transformed Massachusetts from having the highest to the lowest unemployment rate.

Civil Liberties
Whether it’s a Republican who wants the government to tell you who to love, or a Democrat who wants the government to look through your cell phone, the threat to our civil liberties needs to be stopped by a renewed appreciation for what it means.

Foreign Policy and National Defense
The objective of both our foreign policy and our military should be straightforward: To protect us from harm and to allow us to exercise our freedoms.

Religious Freedom and Non-Discrimination Laws
Gov. Gary Johnson will zealously defend the Constitution of the United States and all of its amendments, including religious freedom. The right to practice one's religion is a fundamental part of being an American and must be preserved. Johnson personally credits his own religious upbringing.

Support Our Veterans
Gary Johnson believes strongly that we have a solemn obligation to honor those who have fought for us, sacrificed for us, and put their lives on the line to defend our great nation. When it comes to fulfilling that obligation, there can be no equivocation.

Immigration
Having served as Governor of a border state, Gary Johnson knows the complex issues associated with immigration reform first hand. Solving immigration problems is not as easy as building a wall or simply offering amnesty.


Criminal Justice Reform
How is it that the United States, the land of the free, has one of the highest incarceration rates in the world? The answer is simple: Over time, the politicians have “criminalized” far too many aspects of people’s personal lives.

Internet Freedom
It is no coincidence that the unprecedented innovation and entrepreneurship the Internet has allowed and the resulting improvements to our daily lives have happened largely without interference from the government.

Environment
The environment is a precious gift and must be protected. Governors Johnson and Weld believe strongly that the first responsibility of government is to protect citizens from those who would do them harm, whether it be a foreign aggressor, a criminal — or a bad actor.

Education
Governors Gary Johnson and Bill Weld believe nothing is more important to our future as a country than educating our next generations.

Abortion
Governor Johnson’s approach to governing is based on a belief that individuals should be allowed to make their own choices in their personal lives. Abortion is a deeply personal choice.

War on Drugs
We can save thousands of lives and billions of dollars by simply changing our approach to drug abuse.
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