True.

Lead poisoning is actually a more likely factor.

Nope sorry Lead is bad for chidren but adults not so it effects your nerves .

And the offical WHO lead poisoning level is 60 ppm but as anybody who has worked in the lead industry knows anything over 4 ppm is poisoning just don't try and sue anybody or your going to have a fight on your hands .

Umm maybe your onto something there Es my last blood test was 24 ppm before i quit and i used to get the shakes and get upset and start crying for no reason still occasionally get the mild shakes but not the emotional crying thank gowd mmm maybe it explains a few things ..........:)

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Oh look we got two non British people telling British people what their culture is like.

And Non-Americans telling Americans, what American Culture is like?

Can't stop laughing at your Post.

To some degree yes. But thanks to the Americanization of Western culture, American culture is no longer strictly American. I am in a better position to comment on certain, extremely visible, aspects of American culture than you are to comment in a very generalized manner about very specific aspects of British culture.

Oh, and as for American culture being all about telling authority to piss off, you clearly haven't visited the bible belt have you? Never heard the stories of school boards trying to rewrite history class so it teaches children 'respect and obedience for authority' or the incessant hammering from Christian fundamentalist on respecting authority? Or Hollywood who in the past few years has been churning out army propaganda like crazy? And how about Edward Snowden, possibly the ultimate rebel against authority, who most Americans want to see jailed because of what he did?

Glass houses Clyde. Don't comment on other nations supposed respect for authority when your own nation isn't doing exactly that well either. And unlike your suggestions about the UK, I got proof to back up mine about the US.

it does take all kinds doesn't it? sigh .........

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Still don't see where your difficulty with it is.
They drove CAMPERS within the district. CAMPERS.
Now, you mention ordinary; ordinary people TEND to take CAMPERS on further trips than that. Not on in-town/in-district trips.
SO, either, they are non-ordinary for their short distance use of campers or they weren't from the area making it infiltration and not grass-roots.

Campers? Like gypsies? Sorry should be the Romani/roaming people

No, "campers" as in the type of vehicle of which I showed a picture yesterday. My family used tents and campers for several summers for our vacations. (To "rough it" rather than stay in hotels.) We would stay in campgrounds both of well known management ("KOA") and less know ones. The trips were more than 40 miles. More like hundreds of miles from home. Not within a home political district.

My pic is actually real "campers" and they live like that even today.
Now they come from Romania and Bulgaria.
Not from Finland as a couple next door.
I like her traditional dress though...

That's it? The Camper?

I thought you had spotted Wayne La Pierre in the background or something. Wow. I can't believe that's your proof of outlander control or coercion. I can think of 2 reasons off the top of my head for the camp TRAILER.

1) It was used throughout the campaign as a mobile office and was taken to whichever location was being used each day.

2) A camp TRAILER provides some of the comforts basic to a volunteer effort such as a toilet, a refrigerator, a stove and a table for paperwork.

And as far as the distance driven, I know people who spend $20 in gas and another $20 in parking to drive 12 blocks in their motor home to tailgate at a Bronco's game. To drive 5 or 10 miles towing a trailer for a cause you feel is important is insignificant.

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Sarge I guess I'm missing your meaning with regards to the camper and the Giron recall. I didn't see anything significant in the photo.

Why is it difficult to understand? If it was, as claimed, grassroots from that side, that would mean it was free of outsiders on that side. Is it normal for someone to travel 5 miles ... yes, 5 ... 10 at best ... to set up a location for signing petitions in a WalMart parking lot ... drive that 5 to 10 miles in a camper?

The restrooms are for customers only!

To my knowledge, they were not unwelcome by WalMart or other places they set up to have petitions signed.

Still don't see where your difficulty with it is.
They drove CAMPERS within the district. CAMPERS.
Now, you mention ordinary; ordinary people TEND to take CAMPERS on further trips than that. Not on in-town/in-district trips.
SO, either, they are non-ordinary for their short distance use of campers or they weren't from the area making it infiltration and not grass-roots.

Campers? Like gypsies? Sorry should be the Romani/roaming people

No, "campers" as in the type of vehicle of which I showed a picture yesterday. My family used tents and campers for several summers for our vacations. (To "rough it" rather than stay in hotels.) We would stay in campgrounds both of well known management ("KOA") and less know ones. The trips were more than 40 miles. More like hundreds of miles from home. Not within a home political district.

Still don't see where your difficulty with it is.
They drove CAMPERS within the district. CAMPERS.
Now, you mention ordinary; ordinary people TEND to take CAMPERS on further trips than that. Not on in-town/in-district trips.
SO, either, they are non-ordinary for their short distance use of campers or they weren't from the area making it infiltration and not grass-roots.

Campers? Like gypsies? Sorry should be the Romani/roaming people

Still don't see where your difficulty with it is.
They drove CAMPERS within the district. CAMPERS.
Now, you mention ordinary; ordinary people TEND to take CAMPERS on further trips than that. Not on in-town/in-district trips.
SO, either, they are non-ordinary for their short distance use of campers or they weren't from the area making it infiltration and not grass-roots.

Why is it difficult to understand? If it was, as claimed, grassroots from that side, that would mean it was free of outsiders on that side. Is it normal for someone to travel 5 miles ... yes, 5 ... 10 at best ... to set up a location for signing petitions in a WalMart parking lot ... drive that 5 to 10 miles in a camper?

grassroots
[gras-roots, -roo ts, grahs-]

Examples
Word Origin

noun, (used with a singular or plural verb). Also, grass roots
1.the common or ordinary people, especially as contrasted with the leadership or elite of a political party, social organization, etc.; the rank and file.
2.the agricultural and rural areas of a country.
3.the people inhabiting these areas, especially as a political, social, or economic group.
4.the origin or basis of something; the basic or primary concept, rule, part, or the like.
adjective, Also, grass-roots
5.of, relating to, or involving the common people, especially as contrasted with or separable from an elite: a grassroots movement for nuclear disarmament. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Grassroots

Are we discussing the same word? The above I think would apply to the volunteers who drove the 5 or 10 miles to assist the effort. You don't have congressional districts that large in your area?

I still don't see where you're going with this.

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Sarge I guess I'm missing your meaning with regards to the camper and the Giron recall. I didn't see anything significant in the photo.

Why is it difficult to understand? If it was, as claimed, grassroots from that side, that would mean it was free of outsiders on that side. Is it normal for someone to travel 5 miles ... yes, 5 ... 10 at best ... to set up a location for signing petitions in a WalMart parking lot ... drive that 5 to 10 miles in a camper?

The restrooms are for customers only!

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Sarge I guess I'm missing your meaning with regards to the camper and the Giron recall. I didn't see anything significant in the photo.

Why is it difficult to understand? If it was, as claimed, grassroots from that side, that would mean it was free of outsiders on that side. Is it normal for someone to travel 5 miles ... yes, 5 ... 10 at best ... to set up a location for signing petitions in a WalMart parking lot ... drive that 5 to 10 miles in a camper?

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The end result is that the remaining British in the UK have a higher than normal respect for authority, Australia has a somewhat lower respect for authority, and here in the USA we tend to say 'Eff you!' to authority, like we did to Britain back in 1776...

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As a British person I can tell you this is a load of total codswallop. The British people are very capable of saying 'eff you! to authority and do so regularly.

Maybe Es with us Brit's respect has got to be "earned" , im 41 and I don't know anybody that will call a policeman "sir" just coz they wear a uniform . Ive told em to f-off plenty of times , and ive punched a policeman to the ground when he grabbed me from behind when I was at a cashpoint and he didn't say . Just grabbed me so I swung . No Charges pressed and no F-ing apology from him either !!

So just because we don't need to carry guns to make ourselves heard, doesn't mean we don't know when to say "Eff you" to authority. In fact unlike petulant children, we know when it is actually appropriate to do so.

Sounds very much like Scandinavian behaviour.
Lots of guns but not used to kill persons and "Effing you" to authorities when its appropriate.

Oh look we got two non British people telling British people what their culture is like.

Hmmm.
I have as a non Briton been in England.
Maybe its different in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
I'm not telling British people what their culture is like.
They are telling me.
Even in my home country!
Behave!

I'm British, Jannesti.

I come from a country where people do things like take a chainsaw to parking metres every night to stop the local government installing them in area's where parking used to be free.

I come from a country where too many speed cameras were installed so people used to go out at night and take them down.

I come from a country where if the police are seen to be publicly abusing someone, random passers by will stop and tell them off.

I come from a county where if an unfair law is passed, people of all ages will go out and protest.

I come from a country where if a politician is behaving badly no matter how senior they are, members of the public will go up and give them a dressing down.

So just because we don't need to carry guns to make ourselves heard, doesn't mean we don't know when to say "Eff you" to authority. In fact unlike petulant children, we know when it is actually appropriate to do so.

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Oh look we got two non British people telling British people what their culture is like.

Hmmm.
I have as a non Briton been in England.
Maybe its different in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
I'm not telling British people what their culture is like.
They are telling me.
Even in my home country!
Behave!

@ES99 "And British Culture is nothing like Swedish culture in that respect".
How do you know that?
British Culture is very much like Swedish Culture.
For good and worse.
We share a lot of common things.
Language, alcohol, silly jokes, Not beeing in the EMU, BBC, UKIP, Svennis, Glen Hysen, Henke Larsson...
More than the brits want to know:)

As a British person I can tell you this is a load of total codswallop. The British people are very capable of saying 'eff you! to authority and do so regularly.

As a non Briton but have stayed in Britain some time and have relatives there I can say that they are not.
They are very much like us Scandinavias not to 'eff you! to an authority.
Behave:)

British people behave when they think it is necessary for a peaceful life...but we take the streets when authority oversteps its mark.

It is not about a respect for authority, it is about an understanding that we have to do certain things to respect other people. If you want to compare that to Americans who appear to us to be very "me..me...me". If you want to interpret that is telling Authority to "eff" off go ahead. The two are not the same.

And British Culture is nothing like Swedish culture in that respect.

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Oh look we got two non British people telling British people what their culture is like.

As a British person I can tell you this is a load of total codswallop. The British people are very capable of saying 'eff you! to authority and do so regularly.

As a non Briton but have stayed in Britain some time and have relatives there I can say that they are not.
They are very much like us Scandinavias not to 'eff you! to an authority.
Behave:)

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The end result is that the remaining British in the UK have a higher than normal respect for authority, Australia has a somewhat lower respect for authority, and here in the USA we tend to say 'Eff you!' to authority, like we did to Britain back in 1776...

...

As a British person I can tell you this is a load of total codswallop. The British people are very capable of saying 'eff you! to authority and do so regularly.

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Reality Internet Personality