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Message 1702982 - Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 5:09:18 UTC - in response to Message 1702972.  
Last modified: 19 Jul 2015, 5:18:46 UTC

Until you fill your GPU cache with what ever is available APs or the alternate MBs nothing will be sent to your CPU, your log states that you are not asking for MBs.
Emphasis by me.
That is exactly the problem, i'm asking for MB also, it is also tagged in the preferences, but the server simply ignores it!!!
Got me?

I'm currently having a similar problem with GPU MBs. I'm down to my last few GPU APs and the Server is determined not to send any GPU MBs. After trying every trick for the last hour, I managed to have it send 2 (two) GPU MBs. Now with the same settings that netted those two (2) GPU MBs it is again refusing to send any MBs.

Sun Jul 19 00:41:59 2015 | SETI@home | Computation for task ap_05fe15ad_B5_P1_00360_20150711_17236.wu_2 finished
Sun Jul 19 00:41:59 2015 | SETI@home | Starting task ap_09mr15aa_B6_P0_00239_20150716_12282.wu_3 using astropulse_v7 version 707 (opencl_ati_mac) in slot 0
Sun Jul 19 00:42:01 2015 | SETI@home | Started upload of ap_05fe15ad_B5_P1_00360_20150711_17236.wu_2_0
Sun Jul 19 00:42:03 2015 | SETI@home | Finished upload of ap_05fe15ad_B5_P1_00360_20150711_17236.wu_2_0
Sun Jul 19 00:44:55 2015 | SETI@home | Computation for task ap_07jn15aa_B3_P0_00133_20150712_11260.wu_2 finished
Sun Jul 19 00:44:55 2015 | SETI@home | Starting task ap_04jn15ad_B6_P0_00065_20150711_20469.wu_2 using astropulse_v7 version 707 (opencl_ati_mac) in slot 1
Sun Jul 19 00:44:57 2015 | SETI@home | Started upload of ap_07jn15aa_B3_P0_00133_20150712_11260.wu_2_0
Sun Jul 19 00:44:59 2015 | SETI@home | Finished upload of ap_07jn15aa_B3_P0_00133_20150712_11260.wu_2_0
Sun Jul 19 00:45:00 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Starting scheduler request
Sun Jul 19 00:45:00 2015 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To report completed tasks.
Sun Jul 19 00:45:00 2015 | SETI@home | Reporting 2 completed tasks
Sun Jul 19 00:45:00 2015 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for ATI
Sun Jul 19 00:45:00 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices
Sun Jul 19 00:45:00 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] ATI work request: 76690.78 seconds; 1.00 devices
Sun Jul 19 00:45:01 2015 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 2 new tasks
Sun Jul 19 00:45:01 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Server version 707
Sun Jul 19 00:45:01 2015 | SETI@home | Project requested delay of 303 seconds
Sun Jul 19 00:45:01 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] estimated total CPU task duration: 0 seconds
Sun Jul 19 00:45:01 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] estimated total ATI task duration: 2802 seconds
Sun Jul 19 00:45:01 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] handle_scheduler_reply(): got ack for task ap_07jn15aa_B3_P0_00133_20150712_11260.wu_2
Sun Jul 19 00:45:01 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] handle_scheduler_reply(): got ack for task ap_05fe15ad_B5_P1_00360_20150711_17236.wu_2
Sun Jul 19 00:45:01 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Deferring communication for 00:05:03
Sun Jul 19 00:45:01 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Reason: requested by project
Sun Jul 19 00:45:03 2015 | SETI@home | Started download of 05jn15ae.19365.73804.438086664197.12.45
Sun Jul 19 00:45:03 2015 | SETI@home | Started download of 05jn15ae.19365.73804.438086664197.12.43
Sun Jul 19 00:45:05 2015 | SETI@home | Finished download of 05jn15ae.19365.73804.438086664197.12.45
Sun Jul 19 00:45:05 2015 | SETI@home | Finished download of 05jn15ae.19365.73804.438086664197.12.43
Sun Jul 19 00:50:07 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Starting scheduler request
Sun Jul 19 00:50:07 2015 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
Sun Jul 19 00:50:07 2015 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for ATI
Sun Jul 19 00:50:07 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices
Sun Jul 19 00:50:07 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] ATI work request: 75369.17 seconds; 1.00 devices
Sun Jul 19 00:50:08 2015 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
Sun Jul 19 00:50:08 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Server version 707
Sun Jul 19 00:50:08 2015 | SETI@home | No tasks sent
Sun Jul 19 00:50:08 2015 | SETI@home | Project requested delay of 303 seconds
Sun Jul 19 00:50:08 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Deferring communication for 00:05:03
Sun Jul 19 00:50:08 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Reason: requested by project
Sun Jul 19 00:59:05 2015 | SETI@home | Computation for task 04jn15ad.26936.83357.438086664199.12.209.vlar_1 finished
Sun Jul 19 00:59:05 2015 | SETI@home | Starting task 05jn15ae.19365.73804.438086664197.12.45_1 using setiathome_v7 version 708 (opencl_ati5_sah) in slot 3
Sun Jul 19 00:59:07 2015 | SETI@home | Started upload of 04jn15ad.26936.83357.438086664199.12.209.vlar_1_0
Sun Jul 19 00:59:09 2015 | SETI@home | Finished upload of 04jn15ad.26936.83357.438086664199.12.209.vlar_1_0
Sun Jul 19 00:59:10 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Starting scheduler request
Sun Jul 19 00:59:10 2015 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To report completed tasks.
Sun Jul 19 00:59:10 2015 | SETI@home | Reporting 1 completed tasks
Sun Jul 19 00:59:10 2015 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for ATI
Sun Jul 19 00:59:10 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices
Sun Jul 19 00:59:10 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] ATI work request: 76498.19 seconds; 1.00 devices
Sun Jul 19 00:59:12 2015 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
Sun Jul 19 00:59:12 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Server version 707
Sun Jul 19 00:59:12 2015 | SETI@home | No tasks sent
Sun Jul 19 00:59:12 2015 | SETI@home | Project requested delay of 303 seconds
Sun Jul 19 00:59:12 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] handle_scheduler_reply(): got ack for task 04jn15ad.26936.83357.438086664199.12.209.vlar_1
Sun Jul 19 00:59:12 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Deferring communication for 00:05:03
Sun Jul 19 00:59:12 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Reason: requested by project
Sun Jul 19 01:04:18 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Starting scheduler request
Sun Jul 19 01:04:18 2015 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
Sun Jul 19 01:04:18 2015 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for ATI
Sun Jul 19 01:04:18 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices
Sun Jul 19 01:04:18 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] ATI work request: 77242.06 seconds; 1.00 devices
Sun Jul 19 01:04:19 2015 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
Sun Jul 19 01:04:19 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Server version 707
Sun Jul 19 01:04:19 2015 | SETI@home | Project requested delay of 303 seconds
Sun Jul 19 01:04:19 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] estimated total CPU task duration: 0 seconds
Sun Jul 19 01:04:19 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] estimated total ATI task duration: 1401 seconds
Sun Jul 19 01:04:19 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Deferring communication for 00:05:03
Sun Jul 19 01:04:19 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Reason: requested by project
Sun Jul 19 01:04:21 2015 | SETI@home | Started download of 05jn15ae.19365.75849.438086664197.12.80
Sun Jul 19 01:04:23 2015 | SETI@home | Finished download of 05jn15ae.19365.75849.438086664197.12.80

Oh, look. It sent me One (1) more just now.
I have 3 (three) hungry GPUs, I need Many More.


Maybe I struck a nerve, I just got 6 more;
Sun Jul 19 01:06:01 2015 | SETI@home | Computation for task ap_09mr15aa_B6_P0_00239_20150716_12282.wu_3 finished
Sun Jul 19 01:06:01 2015 | SETI@home | Starting task ap_12fe15ac_B2_P1_00213_20150712_04935.wu_2 using astropulse_v7 version 707 (opencl_ati_mac) in slot 0
Sun Jul 19 01:06:03 2015 | SETI@home | Started upload of ap_09mr15aa_B6_P0_00239_20150716_12282.wu_3_0
Sun Jul 19 01:06:07 2015 | SETI@home | Finished upload of ap_09mr15aa_B6_P0_00239_20150716_12282.wu_3_0
Sun Jul 19 01:09:25 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Starting scheduler request
Sun Jul 19 01:09:25 2015 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To report completed tasks.
Sun Jul 19 01:09:25 2015 | SETI@home | Reporting 1 completed tasks
Sun Jul 19 01:09:25 2015 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for ATI
Sun Jul 19 01:09:25 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices
Sun Jul 19 01:09:25 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] ATI work request: 76969.75 seconds; 1.00 devices
Sun Jul 19 01:09:27 2015 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
Sun Jul 19 01:09:27 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Server version 707
Sun Jul 19 01:09:27 2015 | SETI@home | No tasks sent
Sun Jul 19 01:09:27 2015 | SETI@home | Project requested delay of 303 seconds
Sun Jul 19 01:09:27 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] handle_scheduler_reply(): got ack for task ap_09mr15aa_B6_P0_00239_20150716_12282.wu_3
Sun Jul 19 01:09:27 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Deferring communication for 00:05:03
Sun Jul 19 01:09:27 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Reason: requested by project
Sun Jul 19 01:14:33 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Starting scheduler request
Sun Jul 19 01:14:33 2015 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
Sun Jul 19 01:14:33 2015 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for ATI
Sun Jul 19 01:14:33 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices
Sun Jul 19 01:14:33 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] ATI work request: 77583.29 seconds; 1.00 devices
Sun Jul 19 01:14:34 2015 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 6 new tasks
Sun Jul 19 01:14:34 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Server version 707
Sun Jul 19 01:14:34 2015 | SETI@home | Project requested delay of 303 seconds
Sun Jul 19 01:14:34 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] estimated total CPU task duration: 0 seconds
Sun Jul 19 01:14:34 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] estimated total ATI task duration: 6683 seconds

How about 60 more...
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Message 1702986 - Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 5:27:41 UTC

I kept my machine requesting APs until my cache was very low to pick up any straggler APs. Since I have started taking MBs this evening I have been only receiving or two at a time when I able to receive any. Normally when my cache is very low I receive slugs of 20 or more WUs. Perhaps it is only that the SETI servers are not up to par and everyone is feeling the pinch.
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Message 1702987 - Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 5:40:43 UTC - in response to Message 1702986.  
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I kept my machine requesting APs until my cache was very low to pick up any straggler APs. Since I have started taking MBs this evening I have been only receiving or two at a time when I able to receive any. Normally when my cache is very low I receive slugs of 20 or more WUs. Perhaps it is only that the SETI servers are not up to par and everyone is feeling the pinch.

Yes, it is the servers. Up to 19 Jul 2015, 2:23:42 UTC, I would get new tasks every time I asked for them, and my computer asks often. After that, it's mostly "No tasks available". In fact I have only managed to snag 4 MB tasks since 19 Jul 2015, 2:23:42 UTC.
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Message 1702988 - Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 5:41:27 UTC - in response to Message 1702986.  
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I usually receive slugs of a hundred if I set the cache much over 0.4 days. At that level I usually don't hold more than 100 unless there's lots of shorties. Which is what makes this so unusual. I'm still not getting any tasks even though it is asking for more;
Sun Jul 19 01:29:57 2015 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for ATI
Sun Jul 19 01:29:57 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices
Sun Jul 19 01:29:57 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] ATI work request: 99752.66 seconds; 0.00 devices
Sun Jul 19 01:29:58 2015 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
Sun Jul 19 01:29:58 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Server version 707
Sun Jul 19 01:29:58 2015 | SETI@home | No tasks sent
Sun Jul 19 01:29:58 2015 | SETI@home | Project requested delay of 303 seconds
Sun Jul 19 01:29:58 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Deferring communication for 00:05:03
Sun Jul 19 01:29:58 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Reason: requested by project
Sun Jul 19 01:36:50 2015 | SETI@home | Computation for task 05jn15ae.19365.73804.438086664197.12.43_1 finished
Sun Jul 19 01:36:50 2015 | SETI@home | Restarting task ap_12fe15ac_B2_P1_00213_20150712_04935.wu_2 using astropulse_v7 version 707 (opencl_ati_mac) in slot 0
Sun Jul 19 01:36:52 2015 | SETI@home | Started upload of 05jn15ae.19365.73804.438086664197.12.43_1_0
Sun Jul 19 01:36:56 2015 | SETI@home | Finished upload of 05jn15ae.19365.73804.438086664197.12.43_1_0
Sun Jul 19 01:37:00 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Starting scheduler request
Sun Jul 19 01:37:00 2015 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To report completed tasks.
Sun Jul 19 01:37:00 2015 | SETI@home | Reporting 1 completed tasks
Sun Jul 19 01:37:00 2015 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for ATI
Sun Jul 19 01:37:00 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices
Sun Jul 19 01:37:00 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] ATI work request: 101273.40 seconds; 0.00 devices
Sun Jul 19 01:37:01 2015 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
Sun Jul 19 01:37:01 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Server version 707
Sun Jul 19 01:37:01 2015 | SETI@home | No tasks sent
...
Sun Jul 19 01:52:23 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] Starting scheduler request
Sun Jul 19 01:52:23 2015 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To report completed tasks.
Sun Jul 19 01:52:23 2015 | SETI@home | Reporting 3 completed tasks
Sun Jul 19 01:52:23 2015 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for ATI
Sun Jul 19 01:52:23 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices
Sun Jul 19 01:52:23 2015 | SETI@home | [sched_op] ATI work request: 104413.35 seconds; 0.00 devices
Sun Jul 19 01:52:25 2015 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks

Nothing since those last 6.
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Message 1702991 - Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 6:06:43 UTC - in response to Message 1702949.  
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Hello?!

Nobody has the same problem? What have i done wrong?! :?
Dammit, this meanwhile sucks big time! :((

I only run Seti & only MB & are presently up to the limits for both CPU & GPU.


EDIT- they were presently up to the limits.
Now, often the response is "This computer has reached a limit on tasks in progress"

That is BOINC speak for we have nothing available for your GPU at this time.
Just had a look, and it appears there's another VLAR storm, hence lack of work for GPUs. Every so often 5-10 download at a time when reporting 1-3 tasks.


Further edit- if you don't already have GPU work, the odds of you getting any until the VLAR storm clears are closer to non-existent than slim, unless you keep clearing the GPU work request backoff manually to allow the system to keep trying for GPU work.
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Message 1703009 - Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 8:39:15 UTC

I also ran out of AP & MB GPU task. It would not give me any. I had to set my pref to ATI GPU's only and up my cache to 2 days & 2 days. it took a couple hours but I finally got 30 of them, that is only like 3 to 4 hours worth. Never had this happen, the server must be a little off.

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Message 1703026 - Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 10:39:58 UTC - in response to Message 1703009.  

Bob, change your settings to 2 days and .1 days. You will ask for WUs more often this way. (I have mine set to 0.01 actually)

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Message 1703046 - Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 12:46:11 UTC

The first number is the size of cache. The second is effectively how often your system will check to see if there is any work available.
So having "2+2" means you have a two day cache, and your system will only check every two days, and will then try and get two days worth of data. If you had say "2+0.1" your system would have a two day cache, but would check every 2.4hours to see if you need work, and, provided the servers have work would try to get enough work to fill your cache to 2 days worth of work. Obviously if you reduce the "0.2" to a smaller figure the check will be more frequent, and your cache will be more consistently topped up
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Message 1703058 - Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 13:53:37 UTC

No work coming through here...


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Message 1703062 - Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 14:24:17 UTC

I am like the rest of you. GPU running low. I have 14 VLAR wu though.

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Message 1703065 - Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 14:27:15 UTC

Now i have 128 tasks (just received 4 new) for the GPUs and not a single WU for the CPU. This has happened before and is definitely a server fault.

So Seti doesn't like my CPU anymore, ok, Milkyway (my backup project) appreciates my contribution.

Meanwhile this pile of bugs sucks big time...
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Message 1703072 - Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 15:41:17 UTC

It is getting weirder and weirder:

19/07/2015 17:38:07 | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To report completed tasks.
19/07/2015 17:38:07 | SETI@home | Reporting 1 completed tasks
19/07/2015 17:38:07 | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
19/07/2015 17:38:10 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
19/07/2015 17:38:10 | SETI@home | No tasks sent
19/07/2015 17:38:10 | SETI@home | No tasks are available for AstroPulse v7
19/07/2015 17:38:10 | SETI@home | Tasks for AMD/ATI GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them
19/07/2015 17:38:10 | SETI@home | Tasks for Intel GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them

Remember, i have selected both, AP and MB...
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Message 1703073 - Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 15:43:13 UTC - in response to Message 1703072.  

Ran out of GPU work about an hour ago, GPU crunching away on new back up project.

CPU still full with VLARs. Seems that is all they ever run now.

Will have to wait and see what happens with MB for GPUs
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Message 1703078 - Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 15:48:31 UTC - in response to Message 1703073.  

Ran out of GPU work about an hour ago, GPU crunching away on new back up project.

CPU still full with VLARs. Seems that is all they ever run now.

Will have to wait and see what happens with MB for GPUs

For me it is exactly the other way around:
The CPU is crunching on backup, because the server does not send any work.
The GPUs are happily crunching away MBs and getting new ones, but my CPU is ignored by the server.
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Message 1703085 - Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 16:12:02 UTC

Roll on the day when the Nvidia app that's been under test on Beta is rolled out on main.....
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Message 1703093 - Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 16:29:22 UTC - in response to Message 1703085.  

Roll on the day when the Nvidia app that's been under test on Beta is rolled out on main.....


I want that Nvidia app for VLARs. I can crunch those puppies in 20 minutes, 30 if I do 2 at a time.
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Message 1703095 - Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 16:33:34 UTC - in response to Message 1703093.  

Roll on the day when the Nvidia app that's been under test on Beta is rolled out on main.....


I want that Nvidia app for VLARs. I can crunch those puppies in 20 minutes, 30 if I do 2 at a time.


Yes, the OpenCL app gets some nice time improvement on those VLARs. It'll be a little while before X-Branch Cuda development can compete on those (Switching development methods), so any help the VLARs can get is well worth it IMO.
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Message 1703098 - Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 16:36:59 UTC

After a manual restart of BOINC on my computer, it started immediately to download MB VLARs for my CPU.

Magic... :?
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Message 1703100 - Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 16:38:41 UTC - in response to Message 1703095.  

There is a Mac CPU App just sitting at Beta that can complete these VLARs twice as fast as the current Mac CPU App. It's just sitting there...
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Message 1703103 - Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 16:41:36 UTC - in response to Message 1703046.  

The first number is the size of cache. The second is effectively how often your system will check to see if there is any work available.
So having "2+2" means you have a two day cache, and your system will only check every two days, and will then try and get two days worth of data. If you had say "2+0.1" your system would have a two day cache, but would check every 2.4hours to see if you need work, and, provided the servers have work would try to get enough work to fill your cache to 2 days worth of work. Obviously if you reduce the "0.2" to a smaller figure the check will be more frequent, and your cache will be more consistently topped up



Awesome ! I will make that change now. I thought I had the 2 preference pages all figured out but I am glad to be set straight on the additional cache setting.

Thanx,
Bob
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