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![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11096 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 ![]() ![]() |
Blirf, well stated. |
Rasputin42 Send message Joined: 25 Jul 08 Posts: 412 Credit: 5,834,661 RAC: 0 ![]() |
So what is the paid staff doing? |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 ![]() |
So what is the paid staff doing? (sigh) https://youtu.be/jY5cQTKlYSs ![]() "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
![]() Send message Joined: 6 Jun 02 Posts: 1668 Credit: 623,086,772 RAC: 156 ![]() ![]() |
I think they do pretty darn well To overcome Heisenbergs: "You can't always get what you want / but if you try sometimes you just might find / you get what you need." -- Rolling Stones |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 2786 Credit: 685,657,289 RAC: 835 ![]() ![]() |
So what is the paid staff doing? They sit on the lawn waiting for ET to land and say "Hello" ;)) ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6324 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 ![]() ![]() |
Interesting who provided subs for that video? SETI called "city","said" and number of over words... Looks like ET did subs themselves :P |
![]() Send message Joined: 2 Sep 06 Posts: 8958 Credit: 12,678,685 RAC: 0 ![]() |
So what is the paid staff doing? I don't have the exact details. I am sure you can contact any of these people directly and maybe they'll step away from their duties to answer any specific inquiries you may have. It will be up to them in any spare time they may or may not have. I would make a personal request that you give them some time to address your inquiries. ![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 11 Feb 00 Posts: 1441 Credit: 148,764,870 RAC: 0 ![]() |
We know they are busy. I guess most of us is busy also. Still, if you deceide to do a project like this, you should at least keep a basic level of communication with the ppl that "work" for you. At least thats my opinion. I don't expect them to post on the forums every day (although it would be nice) but honestly, how long does it take to post a quick message on the homepage or the boards or send a tweet when somethings wrong? Not much longer then the reply to your PM. +1 If there's one area where this project could really, really use some improvement, it's not the servers, it's not the apps, it's not the silly credits, it's not the availability of APs, it's the communication. It was quite refreshing for a while this spring when Matt was keeping everybody posted (going above and beyond, really) about the database issues that they were running into and trying to address. A little daylight for us mushrooms! It shouldn't be such a rare and difficult task to periodically communicate with the community. (That's what we belong to, isn't it? Or is this actually just a cult?) It certainly doesn't have to be voluminous, but greater frequency would sure be nice. I seem to remember at the beginning of the year there was talk of a commitment by the project administration to do a better job of communicating, sort of a New Year's resolution. Other than Matt's very welcome updates on the database issues, I can't say that I've actually seen any improvement. |
kittyman ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51445 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 ![]() ![]() |
All I can tell ya, friends, is this......... Don't hold your breath waiting for better comms from the crew. It just ain't their thingy. Be happy that they are spending their time pursuing what really matters...the science. I am on this project because that is what matters to me, not daily news bulletins. And please don't take that wrong. I appreciate news from the battlefront as much as anybody. Matt's informative posts are especially enjoyable when he takes the time to make them. But I am not about to sit here and complain if there is not a steady stream of such informative posts to read all the time. Meow. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster ![]() |
rob smith ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 20801 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 ![]() ![]() |
I'm with Mark. I can't remember the exact figure, but I think SETI@Home has barely got one full-time-equivalent paid staff member, spread across half a dozen bodies. I would far rather they were doing work to get science done than spending part of that rare and valuable resource posting here. Matt's post were Matt doing it when he was taking a break, not Matt doing it as part of his job. Just now they are working on getting the data stream from one of the other telescopes into something for us to work on. For years S@H has been dependent on one equatorial source of data, a source that can broadly, only look straight up in the sky, whereas the new source is pretty well horizon to horizon in it scope. As a very personal aside, I would love to see a data stream from Jodrell Bank, but I doubt that will happen any day soon. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6533 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 ![]() ![]() |
I think that would be the automatic google subtitles. Some places it is really bad. When he says: "The question of extraterrestrial life and intelligent life" It comes out as: "the questioner affects our trust your life and intelligent life" SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours |
Phil Burden Send message Joined: 26 Oct 00 Posts: 264 Credit: 22,303,899 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I'm with Mark. Maybe even the SKA when it's operational ;-) P. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 ![]() |
Maybe even the SKA when it's operational ;-) Or the ATA, I haven't heard or read much lately about progress there. ![]() "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Filipe Send message Joined: 12 Aug 00 Posts: 214 Credit: 21,281,677 RAC: 20 ![]() ![]() |
Are we almost done with the 2012 data? |
rob smith ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 20801 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 ![]() ![]() |
Who knows. Don't get hung up on the date of the data, its been traveling for a very long time before it got here, so another few years before week get it screened won't make that much of a difference. One thing to know is that there were quite a few "tapes" that were all but un-usable with the old splitters and applications that, thanks to progress, have become useable, so we need to screen them. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
kittyman ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51445 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 ![]() ![]() |
And the kitties shall be here to crunch 'em up. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster ![]() |
Admiral Gloval ![]() Send message Joined: 31 Mar 13 Posts: 17468 Credit: 5,308,449 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Getting a few resends. One has been around the block a few times. Has _4 at the end. ![]() ![]() |
![]() Send message Joined: 17 May 00 Posts: 139 Credit: 47,299,948 RAC: 2 ![]() |
I can't remember the exact figure, but I think SETI@Home has barely got one full-time-equivalent paid staff member, spread across half a dozen bodies. I would far rather they were doing work to get science done than spending part of that rare and valuable resource posting here. Please pardon the potential blasphemy, but from that, I had to ask what exact "science" is being done here? I know we're trying to find similar persistent signals from space and to that end there is ntpckr. However, due to the lack of various resources, ntpckr is relegated to have about the same priority as project communications with the minions here in the fora. Resources toward more data streams only allow us to add more data points to a database that is unmanageable (to ntpckr & staffing). More data only feeds into a vicious circle, which may have social science values, perhaps? |
Rasputin42 Send message Joined: 25 Jul 08 Posts: 412 Credit: 5,834,661 RAC: 0 ![]() |
+1 |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6533 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 ![]() ![]() |
I can't remember the exact figure, but I think SETI@Home has barely got one full-time-equivalent paid staff member, spread across half a dozen bodies. I would far rather they were doing work to get science done than spending part of that rare and valuable resource posting here. There was a show I was watching that featured Geoffrey W. Marcy. I think it was the show the The Universe. Where he said that when he started his search for exoplanets in the 80's. That he was considered a joke & had basically given up. Planning to finish out his career being laughed at by his peers. After about 10 years of collecting data & finding nothing. The some Swiss scientists found the first exoplanet, which he helped confirm. Then using what the Swiss scientists had found. They were able to go over all of the data he had collected in the decade previously to find lots of planets. So science doesn't always work on a linear path towards its goals. Arecibo is often in danger of being shut down due to lack of funding. So the SETI@home team started taking steps to secure data from other sources. The data we look at right now is only one part in a process. When they added NTPCkr it showed the current db hardware wasn't up to that task to run it at the same time as everything else. They are also working towards sorting out some of the many issues with the various databases. The Technical News posts are where most of those things are discussed. Such as looking for new db software that is more manageable. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours |
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