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Message 1693471 - Posted: 19 Jun 2015, 8:23:48 UTC

I'm with Mark.


I can't remember the exact figure, but I think SETI@Home has barely got one full-time-equivalent paid staff member, spread across half a dozen bodies. I would far rather they were doing work to get science done than spending part of that rare and valuable resource posting here. Matt's post were Matt doing it when he was taking a break, not Matt doing it as part of his job.

Just now they are working on getting the data stream from one of the other telescopes into something for us to work on. For years S@H has been dependent on one equatorial source of data, a source that can broadly, only look straight up in the sky, whereas the new source is pretty well horizon to horizon in it scope.

As a very personal aside, I would love to see a data stream from Jodrell Bank, but I doubt that will happen any day soon.
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Message 1693495 - Posted: 19 Jun 2015, 9:37:33 UTC - in response to Message 1693310.  


https://youtu.be/jY5cQTKlYSs


Interesting who provided subs for that video?
SETI called "city","said" and number of over words... Looks like ET did subs themselves :P

I think that would be the automatic google subtitles. Some places it is really bad.
When he says: "The question of extraterrestrial life and intelligent life"
It comes out as: "the questioner affects our trust your life and intelligent life"
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Message 1693504 - Posted: 19 Jun 2015, 10:31:37 UTC - in response to Message 1693471.  
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I'm with Mark.


I can't remember the exact figure, but I think SETI@Home has barely got one full-time-equivalent paid staff member, spread across half a dozen bodies. I would far rather they were doing work to get science done than spending part of that rare and valuable resource posting here. Matt's post were Matt doing it when he was taking a break, not Matt doing it as part of his job.

Just now they are working on getting the data stream from one of the other telescopes into something for us to work on. For years S@H has been dependent on one equatorial source of data, a source that can broadly, only look straight up in the sky, whereas the new source is pretty well horizon to horizon in it scope.

As a very personal aside, I would love to see a data stream from Jodrell Bank, but I doubt that will happen any day soon.


Maybe even the SKA when it's operational ;-)

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Message 1693525 - Posted: 19 Jun 2015, 12:30:47 UTC

Maybe even the SKA when it's operational ;-)


Or the ATA, I haven't heard or read much lately about progress there.

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Message 1693614 - Posted: 19 Jun 2015, 17:55:44 UTC

Are we almost done with the 2012 data?
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Message 1693619 - Posted: 19 Jun 2015, 18:09:28 UTC

Who knows.
Don't get hung up on the date of the data, its been traveling for a very long time before it got here, so another few years before week get it screened won't make that much of a difference.
One thing to know is that there were quite a few "tapes" that were all but un-usable with the old splitters and applications that, thanks to progress, have become useable, so we need to screen them.
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Message 1693623 - Posted: 19 Jun 2015, 18:16:26 UTC

And the kitties shall be here to crunch 'em up.
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Message 1693831 - Posted: 20 Jun 2015, 9:09:19 UTC

Getting a few resends. One has been around the block a few times. Has _4 at the end.

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Message 1693874 - Posted: 20 Jun 2015, 13:23:42 UTC - in response to Message 1693471.  

I can't remember the exact figure, but I think SETI@Home has barely got one full-time-equivalent paid staff member, spread across half a dozen bodies. I would far rather they were doing work to get science done than spending part of that rare and valuable resource posting here.


Please pardon the potential blasphemy, but from that, I had to ask what exact "science" is being done here?


I know we're trying to find similar persistent signals from space and to that end there is ntpckr. However, due to the lack of various resources, ntpckr is relegated to have about the same priority as project communications with the minions here in the fora.

Resources toward more data streams only allow us to add more data points to a database that is unmanageable (to ntpckr & staffing). More data only feeds into a vicious circle, which may have social science values, perhaps?
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Message 1693878 - Posted: 20 Jun 2015, 13:46:31 UTC

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Message 1693879 - Posted: 20 Jun 2015, 13:48:15 UTC - in response to Message 1693874.  
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I can't remember the exact figure, but I think SETI@Home has barely got one full-time-equivalent paid staff member, spread across half a dozen bodies. I would far rather they were doing work to get science done than spending part of that rare and valuable resource posting here.


Please pardon the potential blasphemy, but from that, I had to ask what exact "science" is being done here?


I know we're trying to find similar persistent signals from space and to that end there is ntpckr. However, due to the lack of various resources, ntpckr is relegated to have about the same priority as project communications with the minions here in the fora.

Resources toward more data streams only allow us to add more data points to a database that is unmanageable (to ntpckr & staffing). More data only feeds into a vicious circle, which may have social science values, perhaps?

There was a show I was watching that featured Geoffrey W. Marcy. I think it was the show the The Universe. Where he said that when he started his search for exoplanets in the 80's. That he was considered a joke & had basically given up. Planning to finish out his career being laughed at by his peers. After about 10 years of collecting data & finding nothing. The some Swiss scientists found the first exoplanet, which he helped confirm. Then using what the Swiss scientists had found. They were able to go over all of the data he had collected in the decade previously to find lots of planets. So science doesn't always work on a linear path towards its goals.

Arecibo is often in danger of being shut down due to lack of funding. So the SETI@home team started taking steps to secure data from other sources. The data we look at right now is only one part in a process.
When they added NTPCkr it showed the current db hardware wasn't up to that task to run it at the same time as everything else. They are also working towards sorting out some of the many issues with the various databases. The Technical News posts are where most of those things are discussed. Such as looking for new db software that is more manageable.
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Message 1693881 - Posted: 20 Jun 2015, 13:50:44 UTC - in response to Message 1693879.  

Thank you, HAL9000.
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Message 1693894 - Posted: 20 Jun 2015, 14:27:14 UTC

Those who don't feel the project is worthwhile should probably find another project more 'worthy' of their computing time. (More work units for the rest of us).

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Message 1693903 - Posted: 20 Jun 2015, 14:35:12 UTC - in response to Message 1693894.  

Those who don't feel the project is worthwhile should probably find another project more 'worthy' of their computing time. (More work units for the rest of us).



Big +1 if you don't belive in the project what the F##k you doing here in the 1st place ??
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Message 1693906 - Posted: 20 Jun 2015, 14:44:15 UTC - in response to Message 1693903.  

Those who don't feel the project is worthwhile should probably find another project more 'worthy' of their computing time. (More work units for the rest of us).



Big +1 if you don't belive in the project what the F##k you doing here in the 1st place ??

I'm just here for the free toaster. I've been saving up my bread for the past 16 years and everything!
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Message 1693911 - Posted: 20 Jun 2015, 14:51:33 UTC - in response to Message 1693903.  

Those who don't feel the project is worthwhile should probably find another project more 'worthy' of their computing time. (More work units for the rest of us).



Big +1 if you don't belive in the project what the F##k you doing here in the 1st place ??

Don't get me wrong, I love the project, otherwise I wouldn't be here. But I would rather KNOW then have to BELIEVE. It's science, not a religion.

And BTW: Did it ever occur to anybody that there may be a link between the lack of fundings/donations and the lack of information/communication?
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Message 1693913 - Posted: 20 Jun 2015, 14:53:01 UTC

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Message 1693918 - Posted: 20 Jun 2015, 14:59:46 UTC

And BTW: Did it ever occur to anybody that there may be a link between the lack of fundings/donations and the lack of information/communication?


That point has been made repeatedly in this thread and others.

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Message 1693927 - Posted: 20 Jun 2015, 15:09:54 UTC - in response to Message 1693903.  

Those who don't feel the project is worthwhile should probably find another project more 'worthy' of their computing time. (More work units for the rest of us).



Big +1 if you don't belive in the project what the F##k you doing here in the 1st place ??


While I did ask to be pardoned for the potential blasphemy, do y'all really not like the question because of the potential answer?


(I had just watched Matt's recent video on the status of the NTPCkr, so it is a relevant question.)
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Message 1693934 - Posted: 20 Jun 2015, 15:24:08 UTC - in response to Message 1693881.  

Thank you, HAL9000.


Yes, thank you HAL.


From your reasonable answer, will the data from those new streams be merged into the unmanageable database or will they (hopefully) start another?


BTW, I do actively read the Technical News section, but sans Matt's or Eric's participation, activity is rather sparse.
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