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kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51478 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
I sent Matt and Eric a message about the splitters being down this morning before I went to work. You're quite welcome... I do get a bit irked at some of the comments regarding the Seti staff and comms with us, or lack of same, made by some here. They are quite a busy lot, you see. I wish some would try to respect that a bit more. I certainly do. I have learned that their busy schedules do not always allow somebody to be on tap 24/7, and don't always get a ready response to my comms with them either. Meow. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." |
Speedy Send message Joined: 26 Jun 04 Posts: 1643 Credit: 12,921,799 RAC: 89 |
I sent Matt and Eric a message about the splitters being down this morning before I went to work. I I understand where you are coming from. If something is not working right I just move on to another project or wait for this one to back up |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51478 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
I sent Matt and Eric a message about the splitters being down this morning before I went to work. It's the old caveat.... This is a volunteer project, and the project does not guarantee anybody that they shall have work all the time. Given their resources, and the fact that Seti remains the most popular distributed computing project under the Boinc umbrella, I think they do pretty darn well under most circumstances. Granted, us die-hard Seti crunchers would like to see zero downtime ever. But that is not a realistic wish, as much as we may hope for it. For myself, I am satisfied that Eric and Matt do as much as possible to keep the project on an even keel, and at the same time moving forward with their other associated projects. And the advancement of the Seti project in general. If I were not, I would not continue to do what I do here. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
Personally I would MUCH rather be busy with the Green Bank telescope than an ancient balky server..... ":D "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
qbit Send message Joined: 19 Sep 04 Posts: 630 Credit: 6,868,528 RAC: 0 |
[quote][quote]I do get a bit irked at some of the comments regarding the Seti staff and comms with us, or lack of same, made by some here. We know they are busy. I guess most of us is busy also. Still, if you deceide to do a project like this, you should at least keep a basic level of communication with the ppl that "work" for you. At least thats my opinion. I don't expect them to post on the forums every day (although it would be nice) but honestly, how long does it take to post a quick message on the homepage or the boards or send a tweet when somethings wrong? Not much longer then the reply to your PM. And its not just that. Overall, I find it hard to get informations about the project. A few examples? I don't know if all the data is processed and checked for persistant signals without the ntpkr. I don't know if the work done at beta is just for testing or has scientific value also. I asked all this here on the forums, multiple times. And I got answers from the users here (thx for that folks!), but they don't know for sure either. I'm pretty sure that the officials read the boards, so it would really be nice, if they could drop a quick answer from time to time. In many cases a simple yes or no would be enough. Again: I don't expect long answers. |
Rasputin42 Send message Joined: 25 Jul 08 Posts: 412 Credit: 5,834,661 RAC: 0 |
I have to agree with nx-01. Think of the thousands of users, who put a lot of time in optimizing their rigs, buying expensive equipment, using a lot of electricity. All they want is to know, that this is not totally wasted, because the results are not processed and nobody is really getting any "real" results. A little feedback is not too much to ask. The "we do not have enough funding" is not an excuse for everything. Ask for funding from nvidia,intel, amd or the electricity companies, who seem to benefit the most out of this. |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
I have to agree with nx-01. Part of that time they don't have to check to make sure you are happy 24/7 is spent asking for money. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
The Jedi Alliance - Ranger Send message Joined: 27 Dec 00 Posts: 72 Credit: 60,982,863 RAC: 0 |
Perhaps you did not read msattler's comment that the outage went unnoticed. How would you expect the team to post a comment on something they did not know about? Under the circumstances I think they did a bang-up job...they noticed...they fixed. |
Dad Send message Joined: 21 May 99 Posts: 44 Credit: 35,266,844 RAC: 10 |
Perhaps you did not read msattler's comment that the outage went unnoticed. How would you expect the team to post a comment on something they did not know about? Under the circumstances I think they did a bang-up job...they noticed...they fixed. +1 |
Rasputin42 Send message Joined: 25 Jul 08 Posts: 412 Credit: 5,834,661 RAC: 0 |
It is not about the outage, but in general. |
Blurf Send message Joined: 2 Sep 06 Posts: 8964 Credit: 12,678,685 RAC: 0 |
It is not about the outage, but in general. Rasputin-they're understaffed and underfunded. The paid staff has many responsibilities. Posting in the forums is understandably not one of them and I don't blame them. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11416 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Blirf, well stated. |
Rasputin42 Send message Joined: 25 Jul 08 Posts: 412 Credit: 5,834,661 RAC: 0 |
So what is the paid staff doing? |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
So what is the paid staff doing? (sigh) https://youtu.be/jY5cQTKlYSs "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
petri33 Send message Joined: 6 Jun 02 Posts: 1668 Credit: 623,086,772 RAC: 156 |
I think they do pretty darn well To overcome Heisenbergs: "You can't always get what you want / but if you try sometimes you just might find / you get what you need." -- Rolling Stones |
Brent Norman Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 2786 Credit: 685,657,289 RAC: 835 |
So what is the paid staff doing? They sit on the lawn waiting for ET to land and say "Hello" ;)) |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
Interesting who provided subs for that video? SETI called "city","said" and number of over words... Looks like ET did subs themselves :P |
Blurf Send message Joined: 2 Sep 06 Posts: 8964 Credit: 12,678,685 RAC: 0 |
So what is the paid staff doing? I don't have the exact details. I am sure you can contact any of these people directly and maybe they'll step away from their duties to answer any specific inquiries you may have. It will be up to them in any spare time they may or may not have. I would make a personal request that you give them some time to address your inquiries. |
Jeff Buck Send message Joined: 11 Feb 00 Posts: 1441 Credit: 148,764,870 RAC: 0 |
We know they are busy. I guess most of us is busy also. Still, if you deceide to do a project like this, you should at least keep a basic level of communication with the ppl that "work" for you. At least thats my opinion. I don't expect them to post on the forums every day (although it would be nice) but honestly, how long does it take to post a quick message on the homepage or the boards or send a tweet when somethings wrong? Not much longer then the reply to your PM. +1 If there's one area where this project could really, really use some improvement, it's not the servers, it's not the apps, it's not the silly credits, it's not the availability of APs, it's the communication. It was quite refreshing for a while this spring when Matt was keeping everybody posted (going above and beyond, really) about the database issues that they were running into and trying to address. A little daylight for us mushrooms! It shouldn't be such a rare and difficult task to periodically communicate with the community. (That's what we belong to, isn't it? Or is this actually just a cult?) It certainly doesn't have to be voluminous, but greater frequency would sure be nice. I seem to remember at the beginning of the year there was talk of a commitment by the project administration to do a better job of communicating, sort of a New Year's resolution. Other than Matt's very welcome updates on the database issues, I can't say that I've actually seen any improvement. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51478 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
All I can tell ya, friends, is this......... Don't hold your breath waiting for better comms from the crew. It just ain't their thingy. Be happy that they are spending their time pursuing what really matters...the science. I am on this project because that is what matters to me, not daily news bulletins. And please don't take that wrong. I appreciate news from the battlefront as much as anybody. Matt's informative posts are especially enjoyable when he takes the time to make them. But I am not about to sit here and complain if there is not a steady stream of such informative posts to read all the time. Meow. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." |
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