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Message 1823379 - Posted: 10 Oct 2016, 19:50:33 UTC

"sorry I'm behind schedule boss, was reading your e-mails. Took time to read all the comments"

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Message 1826128 - Posted: 22 Oct 2016, 16:18:25 UTC

"Jeff Jarmoc, head of security for global business service Salesforce, pointed out that internet infrastructure is supposed to be more robust.

"In a relatively short time we've taken a system built to resist destruction by nuclear weapons and made it vulnerable to toasters," he tweeted."

Would that be Seti toasters by chance? :-)
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Message 1826164 - Posted: 22 Oct 2016, 20:30:55 UTC - in response to Message 1826128.  

"Jeff Jarmoc, head of security for global business service Salesforce, pointed out that internet infrastructure is supposed to be more robust.

"In a relatively short time we've taken a system built to resist destruction by nuclear weapons and made it vulnerable to toasters," he tweeted."

Would that be Seti toasters by chance? :-)

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Message 1826181 - Posted: 22 Oct 2016, 21:42:24 UTC
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A 9 year old Linux bug? Must be all those eyes on the code pushing out fixes faster than that other OS.
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Message 1826186 - Posted: 22 Oct 2016, 22:43:56 UTC - in response to Message 1826181.  

Dirty COW's have been around much longer than 9 years :-)
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Message 1826314 - Posted: 23 Oct 2016, 15:21:46 UTC - in response to Message 1826181.  

A 9 year old Linux bug? Must be all those eyes on the code pushing out fixes faster than that other OS.

It is a funny one, Linus had a fix for it years ago, though had to pull it back because of a deficiency in the implementation of Linux on a supported CPU architecture.

This is an ancient bug that was actually attempted to be fixed once (badly) by me eleven years ago in commit 4ceb5db9757a ("Fix get_user_pages() race for write access") but that was then undone due to problems on s390 by commit f33ea7f404e5 ("fix get_user_pages bug").

In the meantime, the s390 situation has long been fixed, and we can now fix it by checking the pte_dirty() bit properly (and do it better). The s390 dirty bit was implemented in abf09bed3cce ("s390/mm: implement software dirty bits") which made it into v3.9. Earlier kernels will have to look at the page state itself.

Also, the VM has become more scalable, and what used a purely theoretical race back then has become easier to trigger.

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1826325 - Posted: 23 Oct 2016, 16:12:28 UTC - in response to Message 1826314.  

So they have known for 11 years about a bug and done nothing to fix it. Is that actionable gross negligence?
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Message 1826331 - Posted: 23 Oct 2016, 16:42:32 UTC - in response to Message 1826325.  

gross negligence?

By whom?
Linux is open source.
Which means that anybody can correct bugs if found!
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Message 1826341 - Posted: 23 Oct 2016, 18:24:02 UTC - in response to Message 1826331.  

gross negligence?

By whom?
Linux is open source.
Which means that anybody can correct bugs if found!

HA! Try getting anything committed if it isn't written by Mr. Linux!
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Message 1826353 - Posted: 23 Oct 2016, 20:27:55 UTC - in response to Message 1826341.  

gross negligence?

By whom?
Linux is open source.
Which means that anybody can correct bugs if found!

HA! Try getting anything committed if it isn't written by Mr. Linux!

HA! I didn't asked "Mr. Linux" to commit my corrections in the kernel code.
I just did IT:)
A silly bug that caused my CD reader/writer not to work.
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Message 1830360 - Posted: 13 Nov 2016, 19:24:27 UTC - in response to Message 1830356.  

Oh, my. Free was too expensive.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/brazil-to-replace-open-source-software-with-microsoft-products-510140.shtml

& off your link, Munich considering returning to Microsoft :-)

"One of the agencies that are supporting the transition back to Windows is the human resources department (known as POR), who explains that productivity dropped dramatically because of crashes and bugs that engineers had to fix. The department cites old software and issues such as errors in how PDFs are displayed as some of the problems that employees have to deal with every day.

"The POR strongly supports a swift and structured transition to Windows, Microsoft Office products and standard applications," the organization explains."
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Message 1830405 - Posted: 13 Nov 2016, 22:12:17 UTC - in response to Message 1830356.  

Is there any real competitive computer software to Microsoft Office products?
Please let me know.
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Message 1830406 - Posted: 13 Nov 2016, 22:24:02 UTC - in response to Message 1830405.  
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Is there any real competitive computer software to Microsoft Office products?
Please let me know.

Here is one article I found for you with some choices.
MS Office alternatives.
And these are apparently free or shareware.
And a few more.
"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

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Message 1830407 - Posted: 13 Nov 2016, 22:29:09 UTC - in response to Message 1830405.  

Is there any real competitive computer software to Microsoft Office products?
Please let me know.

Everyone has been looking for it. No one has found it yet. For a small walled garden of part of the Office suite you can find competition, but not for the entire Office suite. Nothing offers the seamless inter-connectivity. Nothing allows user A in building B to publish his office suite project address (calendar, word processing, spread sheet, database all hot linked to OBDC local and internet data sources) and collaborate in real time with user X in building Y. All the competition requires file upload/download for every change. The competition isn't multi-tasking multi-threaded sharing. AFIK
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Message 1830410 - Posted: 13 Nov 2016, 22:33:04 UTC - in response to Message 1830407.  

I have never used Office, so I am not familiar with it.
The programs in the articles I linked may not be 100% replacements.
It would depend on what degree of compatibility the user requires.
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Message 1830413 - Posted: 13 Nov 2016, 22:40:11 UTC - in response to Message 1830410.  

I have never used Office, so I am not familiar with it.
The programs in the articles I linked may not be 100% replacements.
It would depend on what degree of compatibility the user requires.

If all you do is Word and Excel in a single user environment, there are alternatives. If you are a big corporation and have a teamwork requirement, Google docs will do if word processing is all you need. However if you want all the functions of Office, nothing I'm aware of has been that fully integrated, including running your own cloud.
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Message 1830420 - Posted: 13 Nov 2016, 22:51:51 UTC - in response to Message 1830406.  
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Is there any real competitive computer software to Microsoft Office products?
Please let me know.

Here is one article I found for you with some choices.
MS Office alternatives.
And these are apparently free or shareware.
And a few more.

Thanks.
But free or shareware software is not an option here in our country.
I would glady develop my system http://www.tribologen.se/ using other companies than MS.
But most companies denies free or shareware software.
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tribologen.se%2F&edit-text=
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Message 1830421 - Posted: 13 Nov 2016, 22:53:50 UTC - in response to Message 1830420.  

Ahhhh....
I was thinking along the lines that it was for personal use.
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Message 1830424 - Posted: 13 Nov 2016, 22:56:02 UTC - in response to Message 1830360.  

Oh, my. Free was too expensive.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/brazil-to-replace-open-source-software-with-microsoft-products-510140.shtml

& off your link, Munich considering returning to Microsoft :-)

"One of the agencies that are supporting the transition back to Windows is the human resources department (known as POR), who explains that productivity dropped dramatically because of crashes and bugs that engineers had to fix. The department cites old software and issues such as errors in how PDFs are displayed as some of the problems that employees have to deal with every day.

"The POR strongly supports a swift and structured transition to Windows, Microsoft Office products and standard applications," the organization explains."

Quite a giggle...

Now... Try a simple web search for the two prominent names behind the 'report' and the 'recommendations'... Also note the one department named that looks to be still suffering from some very expensive proprietary lock-in...

To me, that looks very much like proprietary corruption in action and some very clever manipulation of the press to make a story out of a biased sales-shoot.


Such is the game of getting very expensively locked into proprietary software...

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