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Message 1674283 - Posted: 6 May 2015, 3:38:06 UTC - in response to Message 1674264.  

Regarding point 1.
Who judges women on their appearance most? Is it men, or other women?
Quick straw poll of the occupants of the room i'm sat drinking coffee in (8 women, 6 men), unanimously returned a verdict of other women.

Does it matter? No, it does not matter. Whether it are guys that are upholding some cultural standard that dictates women must spend hours on their appearance or women who uphold that standard, the fact remains that it negatively impacts women and not men. Hence its male privilege as males are held to a more relaxed standard.

Patriarchy is not something that is only upheld by men. Its interwoven into the very fabric of our society, it affects everyone, and unless you are aware of how far it extends and actively seek to counter it, you are an agent of the patriarchy, regardless of your gender.

Thank you, Мишель. That explains it very well.

I agree. Thank you, Мишель.

Women don't think for themselves? Or have their culture?

Women are children, and are pawns to men?

I believe women are mature and responsible adults.

Many here disagree.
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Message 1674299 - Posted: 6 May 2015, 5:14:28 UTC - in response to Message 1674283.  

Women don't think for themselves? Or have their culture?

Women are children, and are pawns to men?

No, Clyde. That is not what we are saying.

I believe women are mature and responsible adults.

Many here disagree.

Yes, they do.
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Message 1674305 - Posted: 6 May 2015, 5:37:16 UTC - in response to Message 1674299.  
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Women don't think for themselves? Or have their culture?

Women are children, and are pawns to men?

No, Clyde. That is not what we are saying.

I believe women are mature and responsible adults.

Many here disagree.

Yes, they do.

Just responding to, who judges who, and why.

Yes. Women, judge women. Not in response to male culture.

And yes. Males, judge males. Not in response to female culture.
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Message 1674393 - Posted: 6 May 2015, 16:19:21 UTC - in response to Message 1674391.  

Most of the Girls Rescued From Boko Haram Are Now Pregnant

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Make babies faster than the enemy. Obviously they are in a war for the long term. Isn't religion grand?
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Message 1674398 - Posted: 6 May 2015, 16:28:11 UTC - in response to Message 1674393.  

Most of the Girls Rescued From Boko Haram Are Now Pregnant

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Make babies faster than the enemy. Obviously they are in a war for the long term. Isn't religion grand?

Rape has been used as a tool of war for a long time.
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Message 1674400 - Posted: 6 May 2015, 16:32:18 UTC - in response to Message 1674391.  

Most of the Girls Rescued From Boko Haram Are Now Pregnant

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Yesterday, had a lengthy discussion, at The VA, regarding their rescue. Didn't have information regarding any pregnancy. But believed it was probable (Rape).

Even those who believed Abortion was a 'Sin', stated they would understand.

One even gave the analogy of a Jewish girl, raped by an SS Man, at a Concentration/Slave Labor Camp.

This Religious Man said, "I would not judge, and leave it up to God to decide".
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Message 1674409 - Posted: 6 May 2015, 16:51:04 UTC - in response to Message 1674400.  

Even those who believed Abortion was a 'Sin', stated they would understand.

This Religious Man said, "I would not judge, and leave it up to God to decide".


They should take this approach always.
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Message 1674410 - Posted: 6 May 2015, 16:52:19 UTC - in response to Message 1674398.  
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Most of the Girls Rescued From Boko Haram Are Now Pregnant
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Make babies faster than the enemy. Obviously they are in a war for the long term. Isn't religion grand?

Rape has been used as a tool of war for a long time.

Rape?
Women from Gothenburg travel to Syria and Iraq to join the Islamist groups. They are encouraged to marry jihadi warriors and support the fight. The phenomenon is well known internationally but is now for the first time also in Gothenburg.
- We have received signals from other Swedish cities and from colleagues around Europe that young women and girls from the West have been quite frequent in the conflict areas. Mostly it has been about women from France and Britain. But in Gothenburg, we have not heard about it before, says Zan Jankovski, Head of the district administration Angered.
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Message 1674412 - Posted: 6 May 2015, 16:54:47 UTC - in response to Message 1674410.  

Most of the Girls Rescued From Boko Haram Are Now Pregnant
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Make babies faster than the enemy. Obviously they are in a war for the long term. Isn't religion grand?

Rape has been used as a tool of war for a long time.

Rape?
Women from Gothenburg travel to Syria and Iraq to join the Islamist groups. They are encouraged to marry jihadi warriors and support the fight. The phenomenon is well known internationally but is now for the first time also coated in Gothenburg.
- We have received signals from other Swedish cities and from colleagues around Europe that young women and girls from the West have been quite frequent in the conflict areas. Mostly it has been about women from France and Britain. But in Gothenburg, we have not heard about it before, says Zan Jankovski, Head of the district administration Angered.

Janneseti, are you suggesting that the kidnapped girls chose to go and were not raped?
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Message 1674413 - Posted: 6 May 2015, 16:56:32 UTC - in response to Message 1674412.  
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Janneseti, are you suggesting that the kidnapped girls chose to go and were not raped?

I hope not.
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Message 1674414 - Posted: 6 May 2015, 16:58:14 UTC - in response to Message 1674412.  
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Most of the Girls Rescued From Boko Haram Are Now Pregnant
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Make babies faster than the enemy. Obviously they are in a war for the long term. Isn't religion grand?

Rape has been used as a tool of war for a long time.

Rape?
Women from Gothenburg travel to Syria and Iraq to join the Islamist groups. They are encouraged to marry jihadi warriors and support the fight. The phenomenon is well known internationally but is now for the first time also coated in Gothenburg.
- We have received signals from other Swedish cities and from colleagues around Europe that young women and girls from the West have been quite frequent in the conflict areas. Mostly it has been about women from France and Britain. But in Gothenburg, we have not heard about it before, says Zan Jankovski, Head of the district administration Angered.

Janneseti, are you suggesting that the kidnapped girls chose to go and were not raped?

Of course not.
But there are many naive Young women who goes to extremist islamist for what they Think is a good cause.
Often they regret and wants to come home to their parents who didn't know what the Girls did...
I have seen too many stories of it here...

And of course kidnapped Girls.
https://translate.google.se/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dn.se%2Fnyheter%2Fvarlden%2Fhundratals-kvinnor-kidnappade-av-terrorgruppen-is%2F&edit-text=
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Message 1674418 - Posted: 6 May 2015, 17:08:28 UTC - in response to Message 1674414.  


Of course not.
But there many naive Young women who goes to extremist islamist for what they Think is a good cause.
Often they regret and wants to come home to their parents who didn't know what the Girls did...
I have seen too many stories of it here...

Of course they regret it. They are teenagers and their brains are not fully developed yet. They have no idea what they are getting in to. However, that has nothing to do with the girls that were forcibly kidnapped from schools and raped.

Although, I suspect the girls you talk about could end up in the same situation with no one to protect them.
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Message 1674421 - Posted: 6 May 2015, 17:21:09 UTC - in response to Message 1674418.  

Although, I suspect the girls you talk about could end up in the same situation with no one to protect them.

What's more weird is that their parents fled from those religious extremists to get a better life elsewhere.
The parents are mostly ashamed for what the Girls did.
And it's VERY difficult to bring them home...
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Message 1674424 - Posted: 6 May 2015, 17:33:35 UTC - in response to Message 1674421.  

Although, I suspect the girls you talk about could end up in the same situation with no one to protect them.

What's more weird is that their parents fled from those religious extremists to get a better life elsewhere.
The parents are mostly ashamed for what the Girls did.
And it's VERY difficult to bring them home...

If you'd spend any time around teenagers, you wouldn't think it was weird at all. Sad: but not weird.
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Message 1674429 - Posted: 6 May 2015, 18:07:02 UTC - in response to Message 1674424.  
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Although, I suspect the girls you talk about could end up in the same situation with no one to protect them.

What's more weird is that their parents fled from those religious extremists to get a better life elsewhere.
The parents are mostly ashamed for what the Girls did.
And it's VERY difficult to bring them home...

If you'd spend any time around teenagers, you wouldn't think it was weird at all. Sad: but not weird.

I forgot. I was once a teenager.
Teenage revolution that has been going on for milleniums.

I just saw this.
Shocking pictures show Chinese baby factory where mothers are paid £10,000 for their newborns .
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/shocking-pictures-show-chinese-baby-4971128
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Message 1674620 - Posted: 7 May 2015, 7:18:08 UTC

Young people in their late teens and early twenties go through what is generally called their "angry young man" phase. It affects men as well as women. It is at that time that they will be most likely to join extreme factions and demonstrate in the streets, against what they perceive as the world injustices. Each generation has their own particular leaning and cause. It usually happens that by the time that they are 30'ish and parents, they have calmed down a bit and start putting something back into the world, rather than denigrating what is there caused by others before them.

It will be the same in generations to come as it has been in the past.
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Message 1674647 - Posted: 7 May 2015, 10:51:20 UTC - in response to Message 1674393.  

Make babies faster than the enemy. Obviously they are in a war for the long term. Isn't religion grand?

Or perhaps babies are the natural result of repeatedly raping a women over the course of several months. I very much doubt those Boko Haram fighters have access to condoms, nor do I think that they gave a damn about the consequences for the women.

What I doubt even more is that this is some long term strategy to produce more fighters for their cause. I honestly don't think a group like Boko Haram has the intellectual capacity to think that far ahead.
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Message 1674684 - Posted: 7 May 2015, 13:48:42 UTC - in response to Message 1674647.  

I honestly don't think a group like Boko Haram has the intellectual capacity to think that far ahead.

Never underestimate the enemy.
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Message 1674697 - Posted: 7 May 2015, 14:32:38 UTC - in response to Message 1674684.  

I honestly don't think a group like Boko Haram has the intellectual capacity to think that far ahead.

Never underestimate the enemy.

Intelligence has nothing to do with Rape, Mass Murder, Crucifixion, Beheading, etc.

You defeat these 'People', as History Instructs, by killing them at a faster rate, then they kill you.

Our 'Superior' Intelligence, only facilitates the effectiveness of our killing.
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