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Message 1684925 - Posted: 27 May 2015, 23:29:57 UTC - in response to Message 1684912.  

edit: Not sure if this fits here?
How 'abused emoji' are being used to help domestic violence victims

I Think it does fit in here. Children are both male and female and some are much obused, both in home and elsewhere.
Giving "apps" to children like BRIS Emojis seems to me nonsens.
Too much "apps" today that some people Thinks could solve problems when it's human contact and interaction that we lack of more and more...
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Message 1685059 - Posted: 28 May 2015, 9:13:32 UTC

That quiz tries to force you to make too many generalisations about women, which is slightly ironic.

E.g. (5) Women are too easily offended.
Difficult to answer how i'd like, which is that some women are too easily offended.

(7) Feminists are not seeking for women to have more power than men.
My answer: most feminists are not etc.

(18) There are actually very few women who get a kick out of teasing men by seeming sexually available and then refusing male advances.
This may be true, but if it is why do i meet a disproportionately high number of them?
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Message 1685063 - Posted: 28 May 2015, 9:22:06 UTC - in response to Message 1684789.  

I think you have to give it your info so it can compare your statistics. I notice not many people have posted their results, so perhaps you are not the only one having this problem.

Hmm, well it doesn't give me any fields asking for my info. All I get are the questions.

Oh well, these tests are fun, but not very reliable anyways. I doubt it will give anyone a good idea of how sexist they are.
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Message 1685066 - Posted: 28 May 2015, 9:34:20 UTC - in response to Message 1684912.  

Decided to put the words "most sexist countries" into a search engine. It was treated as a spelling mistake :/

A Swedish paper met Salma Hayek i Cannes recently and they asked her this.
How do you see your career after the breakthrough?

- "Frida" (2002), the film about the artist Frida Kahlo (1907-1954) life, of course, is an unbeatable highlight. Otherwise, I am most happy that I have a job. It's not all actresses who have that in my age, now that we're too old to play the sexy strippers. Hollywood is sexist. Yes, the world is sexist. That's just in the fashion and porn industry women earn more than men.
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Message 1685067 - Posted: 28 May 2015, 9:34:26 UTC - in response to Message 1685059.  


E.g. (5) Women are too easily offended.
Difficult to answer how i'd like, which is that some women are too easily offended.


trick question

(7) Feminists are not seeking for women to have more power than men.
My answer: most feminists are not etc.


The one's that arn't are not called feminists they call them self's Equality movements .

AKA : Current call to exempt all female sanitary products from G.S.T Tax , as men's health produce's are

(18) There are actually very few women who get a kick out of teasing men by seeming sexually available and then refusing male advances.
This may be true, but if it is why do i meet a disproportionately high number of them?


Hey if you like to "DO" it the way the bible says go for it , what ever flots ya boat ! ... mite get a bit boring after a while thou , same old , same old ....
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Message 1685077 - Posted: 28 May 2015, 10:43:36 UTC - in response to Message 1685067.  
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(7) Feminists are not seeking for women to have more power than men.
My answer: most feminists are not etc.
The one's that arn't are not called feminists they call them self's Equality movements .
This is why I'd count myself as an egalitarianist, not a feminist.

AKA : Current call to exempt all female sanitary products from G.S.T Tax , as men's health produce's are
That sounds fair.

(18) There are actually very few women who get a kick out of teasing men by seeming sexually available and then refusing male advances.
This may be true, but if it is why do i meet a disproportionately high number of them?
Hey if you like to "DO" it the way the bible says go for it , what ever flots ya boat ! ... mite get a bit boring after a while thou , same old , same old ....
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Message 1685186 - Posted: 28 May 2015, 16:32:48 UTC - in response to Message 1685059.  

That quiz tries to force you to make too many generalisations about women, which is slightly ironic.

E.g. (5) Women are too easily offended.
Difficult to answer how i'd like, which is that some women are too easily offended.

The questions are meant to be how you feel about women in general. Some men are too easily offended too, but I bet you were asked to rate the statement Men are too easily offended. you wouldn't have to think so hard about it.

(7) Feminists are not seeking for women to have more power than men.
My answer: most feminists are not etc.

Again, these are general questions, so if you think the answer is only some feminists then you rate that statement accordingly. Its not difficult...and remember, its a general question. If the question was "men are rapists" I would know that that is emphatically not true, as the actual figure is 1 in 25 men are rapists. I would have no issue in answering that statement as false even though I know some men are rapists. Do you see?

(18) There are actually very few women who get a kick out of teasing men by seeming sexually available and then refusing male advances.
This may be true, but if it is why do i meet a disproportionately high number of them?

Or are you projecting what you think women are like onto them?
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Message 1685198 - Posted: 28 May 2015, 16:53:41 UTC - in response to Message 1685186.  

The questions are meant to be how you feel about women in general. Some men are too easily offended too, but I bet you were asked to rate the statement Men are too easily offended. you wouldn't have to think so hard about it.
I would say the statement 'men are too easily offended' is also too general to be of any use.

Again, these are general questions, so if you think the answer is only some feminists then you rate that statement accordingly. Its not difficult...and remember, its a general question. If the question was "men are rapists" I would know that that is emphatically not true, as the actual figure is 1 in 25 men are rapists. I would have no issue in answering that statement as false even though I know some men are rapists. Do you see?
I repeat that these questions are too general to be of any use. You'd object to a sweeping statement like "all women play with men's emotions for their own gain", yet the statement "no women play with men's emotions for their own gain" is just as sweeping, and therefore just as meaningless.

(18) There are actually very few women who get a kick out of teasing men by seeming sexually available and then refusing male advances.
This may be true, but if it is why do i meet a disproportionately high number of them?
Or are you projecting what you think women are like onto them?
No, just going outside and mixing with people. And if you're claiming there aren't a significant proportion of women who prey on the generosity of men in a ploy to get free drinks/meals/cinema tickets/etc without offering anything in return then i want to live in your world.
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Message 1685209 - Posted: 28 May 2015, 17:16:08 UTC - in response to Message 1685198.  

Simon, you are on to something. People with different levels of reading comprehension will see each question differently, no matter their feelings towards women. As such they will answer differently. Because of this the test is not valid for an individual, only a large group.
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Message 1685235 - Posted: 28 May 2015, 18:07:20 UTC - in response to Message 1685209.  
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Simon, you are on to something. People with different levels of reading comprehension will see each question differently, no matter their feelings towards women. As such they will answer differently. Because of this the test is not valid for an individual, only a large group.

Shocker, a free internet test that lacks validity and reliability.

These things are just quick little distractions and at best they give you a very broad and general oversight about your attitude towards a specific topic. But these tests are about as reliable and valid as those dumb buzzfeed tests about what house from A Game of Thrones or Harry Potter you belong too.
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Message 1685254 - Posted: 28 May 2015, 19:04:19 UTC - in response to Message 1685235.  

Simon, you are on to something. People with different levels of reading comprehension will see each question differently, no matter their feelings towards women. As such they will answer differently. Because of this the test is not valid for an individual, only a large group.

Shocker, a free internet test that lacks validity and reliability.

These things are just quick little distractions and at best they give you a very broad and general oversight about your attitude towards a specific topic. But these tests are about as reliable and valid as those dumb buzzfeed tests about what house from A Game of Thrones or Harry Potter you belong too.

Well the test was actually the one given by the psychologists, so not quite as bad as the buzzfeed ones. Gary is right that they are meant to analyse large samples are are designed with that in mind. However, there is also an very strong argument to said that those that don't like the results they get from the tests are the ones most likely to be in denial of their internalised sexism.

(I have noticed a strong correlation - ducks and runs for cover)
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Message 1685345 - Posted: 28 May 2015, 22:48:16 UTC - in response to Message 1685254.  

Well the test was actually the one given by the psychologists, so not quite as bad as the buzzfeed ones. Gary is right that they are meant to analyse large samples are are designed with that in mind. However, there is also an very strong argument to said that those that don't like the results they get from the tests are the ones most likely to be in denial of their internalised sexism.

(I have noticed a strong correlation - ducks and runs for cover)

I'd be careful with such a claim. You don't actually know if this test asks about sexism or if it only thinks it asks about sexism. And even if it asks about sexism, it remains to be seen whether the questions where phrased in such a way that the people giving the answers were really giving answers that are about their sexist attitudes. Actual scientific tests take months, if not years to develop. And I might be wrong here, but this doesn't look like a tests developed by scientists.
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Message 1685356 - Posted: 28 May 2015, 23:05:27 UTC - in response to Message 1685198.  

No, just going outside and mixing with people. And if you're claiming there aren't a significant proportion of women who prey on the generosity of men in a ploy to get free drinks/meals/cinema tickets/etc without offering anything in return then i want to live in your world.


Ess i told my ex to play on the generosity of men , "get them to bye you a drink that way it don't cost you anything " when she went out with her freinds so women do lead men on .

Men are just to stupid sometimes to always think there going to end up in the cot at the end of the night .
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Message 1685358 - Posted: 28 May 2015, 23:10:18 UTC - in response to Message 1685345.  
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Well the test was actually the one given by the psychologists, so not quite as bad as the buzzfeed ones. Gary is right that they are meant to analyse large samples are are designed with that in mind. However, there is also an very strong argument to said that those that don't like the results they get from the tests are the ones most likely to be in denial of their internalised sexism.

(I have noticed a strong correlation - ducks and runs for cover)

I'd be careful with such a claim. You don't actually know if this test asks about sexism or if it only thinks it asks about sexism. And even if it asks about sexism, it remains to be seen whether the questions where phrased in such a way that the people giving the answers were really giving answers that are about their sexist attitudes...

So judge the questions themselves for yourself. What do you think?

Also, what did you feel when considering the questions?


Myself, I am very suspicious of the complete 0.0/0.0 results from some. Were they answering what they thought the questions required so as to give a 'good' result? Or were they really answering what the questions asked? And how literally?

Unfortunately, the phrasing for the questions is such that a completely grammatically correct 'logical' answer is likely not what I suspect is intended to be asked. But then also, are the questions carefully shaped as they are to try to catch best how most people will casually read the questions to give a general answer?

(Perhaps there should be a leading question for your professional background to then reword the questions accordingly. IT people get asked in psuedo-C code?!? ;-) )


And should there not be a little healthy benevolence towards the opposite sex as opposed to complete indifference (a zero score)?


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Message 1685365 - Posted: 28 May 2015, 23:25:34 UTC - in response to Message 1685358.  

So judge the questions themselves for yourself. What do you think?

Also, what did you feel when considering the questions?

I'm not a fan of using 'agree' 'disagree' answers to these type of questions. It punishes people who want to include some nuance in their answers. Also, just 20 of those questions is probably not enough.

Myself, I am very suspicious of the complete 0.0/0.0 results from some. Were they answering what they thought the questions required so as to give a 'good' result? Or were they really answering what the questions asked? And how literally?

I agree, and thats another reason I think this test is not very reliable. Its very clear that its asking about sexism and its very obvious what the answers are that would result in the lowest sexism score. It invites people to answer in a way that makes them look better.
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Message 1685517 - Posted: 29 May 2015, 6:32:16 UTC

There is one question in that survey that has a supposition clause and the sexism measurement clause. I find the supposition clause to be false. Do I answer based on that? There is another question about should women be saved before men. I'm just unable to answer, because that isn't a metric useful in making that decision. In such a case you will be looking at he persons face to face (the question assumes you are the one doing the saving) and things like age and general fitness will be obvious to you, so sex won't be a metric to make that choice. (I admit, I've hung around S&R types.) Last there in one question where I'm unable to understand the subject they are attempting to ask. All I can think is that I don't consider whatever it is to exist, and that is why I can't figure out what they are asking.

Yes, tests like this are not an individual measure. The sample size has to be large so that a few oops answers get tossed out in the average.
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Message 1685526 - Posted: 29 May 2015, 7:02:15 UTC - in response to Message 1685186.  
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The questions are meant to be how you feel about women in general. Some men are too easily offended too, but I bet you were asked to rate the statement Men are too easily offended. you wouldn't have to think so hard about it.


They are? I still have to learn so much from you Es. I don't understand anything about men..

Why are kids so much easier to deal with than adults???
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Message 1685536 - Posted: 29 May 2015, 7:48:44 UTC - in response to Message 1685526.  

Why are kids so much easier to deal with than adults???

That's a very good question, Julie.
I would like parents to do that silly survey mentioned earlier together with their kids and let them answer:)
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Message 1685604 - Posted: 29 May 2015, 13:38:20 UTC

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CEO_PAY_TOP_10_WOMEN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-05-29-08-47-28
NEW YORK (AP) -- Female CEOs are outpacing their male colleagues in pay, although they remain vastly outnumbered in the top echelons of American companies.

Last year, the median pay for women CEOs rose to $15.9 million, a 21 percent gain from a year earlier, according to a study by executive compensation data firm Equilar and The Associated Press. That compared with median pay for male CEOs of $10.4 million, which was down 0.8 percent from 2013.

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Message 1685628 - Posted: 29 May 2015, 16:03:05 UTC - in response to Message 1685526.  

The questions are meant to be how you feel about women in general. Some men are too easily offended too, but I bet you were asked to rate the statement Men are too easily offended. you wouldn't have to think so hard about it.


They are? I still have to learn so much from you Es. I don't understand anything about men..

If you want examples of men being too easily offended, spend more time reading here in politics.

The problem is the reality of men and the societal view of what men are supposed to be. For example, I have noticed that men are supposed to be tough and strong, but in reality are actually quite fragile and sensitive. So this causes problems for both men and women when trying to deal with each other. If men were allowed to be who they actually are, I think everyone would have an easier time of it.

Why are kids so much easier to deal with than adults???

I think that entirely depends on the particular adults and children.
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