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Message 1684280 - Posted: 26 May 2015, 0:24:25 UTC - in response to Message 1684251.  

Up is Up, and Down is Down.
Righty tighty, Lefty loosey.
Left is never Right.
So Left is Wrong, and Left is Bad.
Any child can understand that, and many do.

I do.
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That's why Clyde don't like me - I'm a left-hander :-)
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Message 1684401 - Posted: 26 May 2015, 6:29:45 UTC - in response to Message 1683319.  

I don't hate men, I hate a**holes.


Me too Es, me too. I actually Love men that are good to me.
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Message 1684425 - Posted: 26 May 2015, 8:17:28 UTC - in response to Message 1684142.  

Stop calling men sexist and maybe they'll listen more.( That's not an order.)

Why? Why shouldn't you point out when something is sexist? If we are talking about racism, we also point it out when people behave in a racist manner right? And its downright stupid to suggest that we should stop calling people racist when they act like racists, just to spare their feelings and hope that they will listen to us. So why should it be any different for sexism?
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Message 1684461 - Posted: 26 May 2015, 11:38:16 UTC - in response to Message 1683515.  

You are still telling women what they should and shouldn't do, that is sexist.

Patronising maybe, sexist no.
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Message 1684471 - Posted: 26 May 2015, 12:24:04 UTC - in response to Message 1684461.  

You are still telling women what they should and shouldn't do, that is sexist.

Patronising maybe, sexist no.

Sexism and patronizing attitudes are not mutually exclusive. In fact, I would argue that a lot of patronizing attitudes are informed by sexism.
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Message 1684479 - Posted: 26 May 2015, 12:49:22 UTC - in response to Message 1684461.  

You are still telling women what they should and shouldn't do, that is sexist.

Patronising maybe, sexist no.


An interesting paper on differentiating hostile and benevolent sexism:

"In common discourse, paternalism and sexism is often used synonymously..."

Benevolent Sexism
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Message 1684513 - Posted: 26 May 2015, 15:33:53 UTC - in response to Message 1684479.  

You are still telling women what they should and shouldn't do, that is sexist.

Patronising maybe, sexist no.


An interesting paper on differentiating hostile and benevolent sexism:

"In common discourse, paternalism and sexism is often used synonymously..."

Benevolent Sexism

ABSTRACT
The questions the authors address in this chapter can be traced over two decades of work by J. T. Spence and her colleagues. More than any other single researcher, Spence has sought to establish the content of beliefs about women, to determine whether these beliefs are merely descriptions of women or prescriptions for how women ought to be, and to document what has changed and what has remained the same in attitudes toward women across decades of social turmoil in male–female relations. This article addresses the issue of whether gender stereotypes are purely descriptive expectations or prescriptions that are enforced through punishment when they are violated. Implicit in the question is the notion that "feminine" women are seen as very likable but as less competent than men. (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2012 APA, all rights reserved)

Ambivalent sexism - ResearchGate. Available from: http://www.researchgate.net/publication/232586301_Ambivalent_sexism [accessed May 26, 2015].


Interesting and definitely pertinent to our discussion. I shall be reading that one.
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Message 1684521 - Posted: 26 May 2015, 16:03:13 UTC

I have found the questionnaire online, you can now test your level of ambivalent sexism for yourself.

The Ambivalent Sexism Inventory

"How can adoration qualify as sexism? To answer this question, you are invited to take the Ambivalent Sexism Inventory and explore the dual nature of prejudice toward women. The inventory takes roughly 5 minutes to complete, and afterward you can compare your level of sexism with the scores received by people from around the world."
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Message 1684525 - Posted: 26 May 2015, 16:21:26 UTC - in response to Message 1684521.  

Interesting.

Hostile Sexism 2.09
Benevolent Sexism 2.91

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Message 1684642 - Posted: 27 May 2015, 4:05:36 UTC

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Message 1684672 - Posted: 27 May 2015, 7:03:57 UTC - in response to Message 1684521.  

I have found the questionnaire online, you can now test your level of ambivalent sexism for yourself.

The Ambivalent Sexism Inventory

"How can adoration qualify as sexism? To answer this question, you are invited to take the Ambivalent Sexism Inventory and explore the dual nature of prejudice toward women. The inventory takes roughly 5 minutes to complete, and afterward you can compare your level of sexism with the scores received by people from around the world."

The questionaire doesn't work for me. When I want to submit the answers it says I haven't filled everything in yet.
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Message 1684789 - Posted: 27 May 2015, 16:22:35 UTC - in response to Message 1684672.  

I have found the questionnaire online, you can now test your level of ambivalent sexism for yourself.

The Ambivalent Sexism Inventory

"How can adoration qualify as sexism? To answer this question, you are invited to take the Ambivalent Sexism Inventory and explore the dual nature of prejudice toward women. The inventory takes roughly 5 minutes to complete, and afterward you can compare your level of sexism with the scores received by people from around the world."

The questionaire doesn't work for me. When I want to submit the answers it says I haven't filled everything in yet.

I think you have to give it your info so it can compare your statistics. I notice not many people have posted their results, so perhaps you are not the only one having this problem.

I did it and came out with a very low Hostile Sexism score (about 0.25) and a score of just over 1 for the benevolent sexism. So even people who try to monitor their internalised sexism can still have some sexist attitudes.
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Message 1684793 - Posted: 27 May 2015, 16:34:45 UTC - in response to Message 1684672.  

I have found the questionnaire online, you can now test your level of ambivalent sexism for yourself.

The Ambivalent Sexism Inventory

"How can adoration qualify as sexism? To answer this question, you are invited to take the Ambivalent Sexism Inventory and explore the dual nature of prejudice toward women. The inventory takes roughly 5 minutes to complete, and afterward you can compare your level of sexism with the scores received by people from around the world."

The questionaire doesn't work for me. When I want to submit the answers it says I haven't filled everything in yet.


It did that for me and it was right I had missed one answer.

Mine

Hostile Sexism 0.00
Benevolent Sexism 1.73

I thought I answered honestly but 0.00?
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Message 1684799 - Posted: 27 May 2015, 16:48:44 UTC - in response to Message 1684793.  


It did that for me and it was right I had missed one answer.

Mine

Hostile Sexism 0.00
Benevolent Sexism 1.73

I thought I answered honestly but 0.00?

That would be why we respect you so much, Bernie.
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Message 1684830 - Posted: 27 May 2015, 17:46:33 UTC
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Hostile sexism 0.00
Benevolent sexism 0.00

I beat Bernie!
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Message 1684835 - Posted: 27 May 2015, 17:49:14 UTC - in response to Message 1684830.  

Hostile sexism 0.00
Benevolent sexism 0.00

I beat Bernie!

Naw, that's not possible! :-)
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Message 1684838 - Posted: 27 May 2015, 17:54:14 UTC - in response to Message 1684830.  

Hostile sexism 0.00
Benevolent sexism 0.00

I beat Bernie!


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Message 1684885 - Posted: 27 May 2015, 21:27:34 UTC

Hmm...

Hostile Sexism Score: 0.00
Benevolent Sexism Score: 0.00
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Message 1684895 - Posted: 27 May 2015, 22:07:03 UTC

WBC gets "Pottered"

Nice one JK :-)
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Message 1684899 - Posted: 27 May 2015, 22:13:20 UTC

Mmmmm...

On the basis of trying to be extreme and only answering a 0 or 5, I returned:

Hostile Sexism Score: 0.00
Benevolent Sexism Score: 0.91


Interesting for the idea behind the questions.

For myself, not so sure about some of the wording used... But then, such searching quizzes are very difficult to word to avoid any bias across all cultures.

Curiously, why the special question for Hispanic/Latino?


And from the average scores shown, we've a long way to go to escape from the Mad Max - Andy Capp 'macho' stereotypes...


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