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Message 1684133 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 19:45:22 UTC - in response to Message 1684110.  

Just because I'm curious,
A Jess McCabe is the author of the article. Checking for her CV, returns the only item is for writing in the trade architectural field.

She did not link the study. Finding the study wasn't too hard. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1471-6402.2009.01491.x/citedby However I see that there no references that this study has been cited by other papers. Unfortunately the abstract does not indicate who peer reviewed it, if in fact it was even reviewed.

The free links being exhausted .....
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Message 1684139 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 19:59:15 UTC - in response to Message 1684131.  
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When people such as yourself stop posting political B/S & provide your own personal views once in a while.

Sirius B...

Very mature. As always.

Haven't heard your attitude, since I was 16. Well maybe 18.

I do welcome your silliness. It is a necessary break, in this important discussion.

As an answer to your question: When The Left, as The Right, posts their B/S. I just point it out.

What exactly is your problem, when the foundation of your 'thinking' is shown to be totally....?

Just show why there is a God, or your Ideology (Same thing), is correct.

Of course you cannot. Therefore you, as an Ideologue, as Religious Fanatics also do, degenerate to name calling. As most of your posts display.

But you are interesting. In a weird sort of way.
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Message 1684142 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 20:07:58 UTC

In many of the under-developed countries male-privilege is a serious problem.
In most industrialized countries not so much.
The booklet "The Manipulated Man", by Esther Vilar, holds many truths that men suspect are in play in female-male relationships.
The intro to the MCP thread, now closed, reminded me of Vilar's book.
Any signifcant change to the power imbalance between men and women can only come about through a co-operative effort.
Stop calling men sexist and maybe they'll listen more.( That's not an order.)
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Message 1684145 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 20:13:40 UTC - in response to Message 1684142.  
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In many of the under-developed countries male-privilege is a serious problem.
In most industrialized countries not so much.
The booklet "The Manipulated Man", by Esther Vilar, holds many truths that men suspect are in play in female-male relationships.
The intro to the MCP thread, now closed, reminded me of Vilar's book.
Any signifcant change to the power imbalance between men and women can only come about through a co-operative effort.
Stop calling men sexist and maybe they'll listen more.( That's not an order.)

As you correctly point out: Name calling corrects nothing.

Are there serious problems? Of course.

A co-operative effort, not only means men listening to women's concerns. But women listening to men's concerns.
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Message 1684146 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 20:20:35 UTC - in response to Message 1684139.  

When people such as yourself stop posting political B/S & provide your own personal views once in a while.

Sirius B...

Very mature. As always.

Haven't heard your attitude, since I was 16. Well maybe 18.

I do welcome your silliness. It is a necessary break, in this important discussion.

As an answer to your question: When The Left, as The Right, posts their B/S. I just point it out.

What exactly is your problem, when the foundation of your 'thinking' is shown to be totally....?

Just show why there is a God, or your Ideology (Same thing), is correct.

Of course you cannot. Therefore you, as an Ideologue, as Religious Fanatics also do, degenerate to name calling. As most of your posts display.

But you are interesting. In a weird sort of way.

Give it up Clyde - you have often mentioned others losing the argument when the name calling begins.

Tell me Clyde, just what is "Religious Fanatics"?

So you are a robot with no personal views? You just obeyed "the man's orders" is that it?
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Message 1684154 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 20:31:08 UTC
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Just a note to other Posters.

I will ignore this compulsive.

Wonder what this person thinks about 297902 post, or my response.
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Message 1684179 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 21:45:10 UTC - in response to Message 1684133.  

Just because I'm curious,
A Jess McCabe is the author of the article. Checking for her CV, returns the only item is for writing in the trade architectural field.

She did not link the study. Finding the study wasn't too hard. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1471-6402.2009.01491.x/citedby However I see that there no references that this study has been cited by other papers. Unfortunately the abstract does not indicate who peer reviewed it, if in fact it was even reviewed.

The free links being exhausted .....

I do have university access.

Kristin J. Anderson, Melinda Kanner and Nisreen Elsayegh

Abstract

Despite the popular belief that feminists dislike men, few studies have actually examined the empirical accuracy of this stereotype. The present study examined self-identified feminists' and nonfeminists' attitudes toward men. An ethnically diverse sample (N = 488) of college students responded to statements from the Ambivalence toward Men Inventory (AMI; Glick & Fiske, 1999). Contrary to popular beliefs, feminists reported lower levels of hostility toward men than did nonfeminists. The persistence of the myth of the man-hating feminist is explored.

Received June 12, 2008.
Revision received July 20, 2008.
Accepted May 7, 2007.


Articles citing this article:
Toward a Constructionist Perspective of Examining Femininity Experience: The Development and Psychometric Properties of the Subjective Femininity Stress Scale
Psychology of Women Quarterly June 1, 2014 38: 275-291

She Loves Him, She Loves Him Not: Attachment Style as a Predictor of Women's Ambivalent Sexism Toward Men
Psychology of Women Quarterly December 1, 2013 37: 507-518

The Masculinity of Mr. Right: Feminist Identity and Heterosexual Women's Ideal Romantic Partners
Psychology of Women Quarterly June 1, 2011 35: 318-326


Regarding the Psychology of Women Quarterly:

"Psychology of Women Quarterly (PWQ) is a feminist, scientific, peer-reviewed journal that publishes empirical research, critical reviews and theoretical articles that advance a field of inquiry, brief reports on timely topics, teaching briefs, and invited book reviews related to the psychology of women and gender. Topics include (but are not limited to) feminist approaches, methodologies, and critiques; violence against women; body image and objectification; sexism, stereotyping, and discrimination; intersectionality of gender with other social locations (such as age, ability status, class, ethnicity, race, and sexual orientation); international concerns; lifespan development and change; physical and mental well being; therapeutic interventions; sexuality; social activism; and career development.

This journal will be of interest to clinicians, faculty, and researchers in all psychology disciplines, as well as those interested in the sociology of gender, women’s studies, interpersonal violence, ethnic and multicultural studies, social advocates, policy makers, and teacher education."

So yes, peer reviewed.

I also downloaded a copy for my reading. Anything else you wanted to know?
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Message 1684212 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 22:24:36 UTC - in response to Message 1684125.  

Now the Left, after decades of promoting the lie of ...isms upon the majority of Individual Whites and Males.

Left and Right:)
Since I'm not English spoken.
The right people are Always right, right?
The countries that drives on the left side like Britain, India, (Australia?) are always wrong, right?

Now I'm really confused...
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Message 1684225 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 23:03:37 UTC - in response to Message 1684179.  

Yes, there are.

First, I see that is has only been cited in other articles in the same publication. How many other publications are there in this field?

Aside, interesting that Wiley isn't updating the citations any more.

When and where was the data collected?

Last, as Wiley owned it when the article was published and Sage owns it today, any changes to the peer review process from when Wiley owned it? Or perhaps, what was Wiley's review process? Who were the reviewers?
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Message 1684233 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 23:14:03 UTC - in response to Message 1684212.  

Now the Left, after decades of promoting the lie of ...isms upon the majority of Individual Whites and Males.

Left and Right:)
Since I'm not English spoken.
The right people are Always right, right?
The countries that drives on the left side like Britain, India, (Australia?) are always wrong, right?

Now I'm really confused...

Up is Up, and Down is Down.
Righty tighty, Lefty loosey.
Left is never Right.
So Left is Wrong, and Left is Bad.
Any child can understand that, and many do.
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Message 1684240 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 23:24:38 UTC - in response to Message 1684233.  

Up is Up, and Down is Down. Any child can understand that, and many do.

OK:) But what is up and down in Australia?
Maybe we all like symmetry. Like woman and man.
But hang on. What about the new gender "other"?
I have seen it in some websites.

Life is very confusing....
So many countries. So many Cultures. So many opinions.
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Message 1684244 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 23:30:36 UTC

Up is Up, and Down is Down.
Righty tighty, Lefty loosey.
Left is never Right.
So Left is Wrong, and Left is Bad.
Any child can understand that, and many do.

I do.

Oh oh.
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Message 1684251 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 23:38:44 UTC - in response to Message 1684244.  

Up is Up, and Down is Down.
Righty tighty, Lefty loosey.
Left is never Right.
So Left is Wrong, and Left is Bad.
Any child can understand that, and many do.

I do.
Oh oh.

And we are old.
VERY old:)
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Message 1684280 - Posted: 26 May 2015, 0:24:25 UTC - in response to Message 1684251.  

Up is Up, and Down is Down.
Righty tighty, Lefty loosey.
Left is never Right.
So Left is Wrong, and Left is Bad.
Any child can understand that, and many do.

I do.
Oh oh.

And we are old.
VERY old:)

That's why Clyde don't like me - I'm a left-hander :-)
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Message 1684401 - Posted: 26 May 2015, 6:29:45 UTC - in response to Message 1683319.  

I don't hate men, I hate a**holes.


Me too Es, me too. I actually Love men that are good to me.
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Message 1684425 - Posted: 26 May 2015, 8:17:28 UTC - in response to Message 1684142.  

Stop calling men sexist and maybe they'll listen more.( That's not an order.)

Why? Why shouldn't you point out when something is sexist? If we are talking about racism, we also point it out when people behave in a racist manner right? And its downright stupid to suggest that we should stop calling people racist when they act like racists, just to spare their feelings and hope that they will listen to us. So why should it be any different for sexism?
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Message 1684461 - Posted: 26 May 2015, 11:38:16 UTC - in response to Message 1683515.  

You are still telling women what they should and shouldn't do, that is sexist.

Patronising maybe, sexist no.
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Message 1684471 - Posted: 26 May 2015, 12:24:04 UTC - in response to Message 1684461.  

You are still telling women what they should and shouldn't do, that is sexist.

Patronising maybe, sexist no.

Sexism and patronizing attitudes are not mutually exclusive. In fact, I would argue that a lot of patronizing attitudes are informed by sexism.
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Message 1684479 - Posted: 26 May 2015, 12:49:22 UTC - in response to Message 1684461.  

You are still telling women what they should and shouldn't do, that is sexist.

Patronising maybe, sexist no.


An interesting paper on differentiating hostile and benevolent sexism:

"In common discourse, paternalism and sexism is often used synonymously..."

Benevolent Sexism
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Message 1684513 - Posted: 26 May 2015, 15:33:53 UTC - in response to Message 1684479.  

You are still telling women what they should and shouldn't do, that is sexist.

Patronising maybe, sexist no.


An interesting paper on differentiating hostile and benevolent sexism:

"In common discourse, paternalism and sexism is often used synonymously..."

Benevolent Sexism

ABSTRACT
The questions the authors address in this chapter can be traced over two decades of work by J. T. Spence and her colleagues. More than any other single researcher, Spence has sought to establish the content of beliefs about women, to determine whether these beliefs are merely descriptions of women or prescriptions for how women ought to be, and to document what has changed and what has remained the same in attitudes toward women across decades of social turmoil in male–female relations. This article addresses the issue of whether gender stereotypes are purely descriptive expectations or prescriptions that are enforced through punishment when they are violated. Implicit in the question is the notion that "feminine" women are seen as very likable but as less competent than men. (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2012 APA, all rights reserved)

Ambivalent sexism - ResearchGate. Available from: http://www.researchgate.net/publication/232586301_Ambivalent_sexism [accessed May 26, 2015].


Interesting and definitely pertinent to our discussion. I shall be reading that one.
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