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Message 1682865 - Posted: 23 May 2015, 0:57:26 UTC - in response to Message 1682744.  

Was it her money?

I suppose if she'd spent it on a handbag or a boob job it would be ok and no one would have anything to say about it.


NO it was not her money

And don't you think it mite have been better to give it to a women refuge to help those women that have been in bad relationships with wife bashers ??? And highlight that , domestic violence .

Seems a bit silly seeing as there must be more than 100,000 women , in Sweden .And earn what amounts to about 50 cents a day less than a man .!
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Message 1682872 - Posted: 23 May 2015, 1:07:20 UTC - in response to Message 1682710.  

Yes I did, did you?

From the wikipedia entry you posted:

Individuals who were present said that no one burned a bra nor did anyone take off her bra.


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Author and feminist Bonnie J. Dow suggested that the association between feminism and bra-burning was encouraged by individuals who opposed the feminist movement. "Bra-burning" created an image that women weren't really seeking freedom from sexism, but were attempting to assert themselves as sexual beings. This might lead individuals to believe, as she wrote in her article "Feminism, Miss America, and Media Mythology," that the women were merely trying to be "trendy, and to attract men."[22][23][24][25][26]

Women associated with an act like symbolically burning their bra may be seen by some as law-breaking radicals, eager to shock the public. This view may have supported the efforts of opponents to feminism and their desire to invalidate the movement.[27] Since then anti-feminists have used "bra burning" and "braless"[28] to attempt to trivialize the feminist movement.[11]
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People say that very few women actually burned their bras,
To be honest I don't think anyone did. I point you back to the quote from you wikipedia article: "...that the association between feminism and bra-burning was encouraged by individuals who opposed the feminist movement."

So every time I hear you go on about bra burning, not only do I know the bias of your sources, I also know where you stand on the feminist movement. It gives a very strong impression that your views are sexist.
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Message 1682874 - Posted: 23 May 2015, 1:08:11 UTC - in response to Message 1682865.  

Was it her money?

I suppose if she'd spent it on a handbag or a boob job it would be ok and no one would have anything to say about it.


NO it was not her money

And don't you think it mite have been better to give it to a women refuge to help those women that have been in bad relationships with wife bashers ??? And highlight that , domestic violence .

Seems a bit silly seeing as there must be more than 100,000 women , in Sweden .And earn what amounts to about 50 cents a day less than a man .!

Yet her protest got more attention and discussion than that would have. Are you aware how much advertising costs? She easily got her money's worth.
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Message 1682918 - Posted: 23 May 2015, 3:02:31 UTC - in response to Message 1682874.  
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Ess the problem with stunt's like what Greer and that sweden women have done , do more harm than good why !

Men are the problem right ! well doing crap like that only turns men off the whole thing , they stop listening . You wont get men to change there attitude doing stupid things like that or what Geer does . In fact it only cements men's attitude of women being stupid and can't control there thoughts or actions so need to be controlled .
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Message 1682956 - Posted: 23 May 2015, 4:13:06 UTC - in response to Message 1682918.  

Ess the problem with stunt's like what Greer and that sweden women have done , do more harm than good why !

Men are the problem right ! well doing crap like that only turns men off the whole thing , they stop listening . You wont get men to change there attitude doing stupid things like that or what Geer does . In fact it only cements men's attitude of women being stupid and can't control there thoughts or actions so need to be controlled .

Seriously?

Funny how men do 'stupid' stuff everyday and their whole gender doesn't get judged on it.
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Message 1683215 - Posted: 23 May 2015, 10:06:34 UTC

When God ceated man she was having a bad hair day.

Well all men know that women look down their noses at men as "things" to be tolerated in "their" world. Let's face it we get told that enough all the time around here.

Perhaps we should have an against all men thread?
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Message 1683221 - Posted: 23 May 2015, 11:30:37 UTC - in response to Message 1682956.  

Ess the problem with stunt's like what Greer and that sweden women have done , do more harm than good why !

Men are the problem right ! well doing crap like that only turns men off the whole thing , they stop listening . You wont get men to change there attitude doing stupid things like that or what Geer does . In fact it only cements men's attitude of women being stupid and can't control there thoughts or actions so need to be controlled .

Seriously?

Funny how men do 'stupid' stuff everyday and their whole gender doesn't get judged on it.

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Message 1683222 - Posted: 23 May 2015, 11:32:30 UTC - in response to Message 1683215.  
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When God ceated man she was having a bad hair day.

Well all men know that women look down their noses at men as "things" to be tolerated in "their" world. Let's face it we get told that enough all the time around here.

Perhaps we should have an against all men thread?

All a question of culture and upbringing and in our modern times, what the media feed people.

For just one example as seen in the UK Daily Mirror tabloid newspaper, the Andy Cap cartoon strip in there makes for some very dismal jaundiced stereotypes against the presumed husband and wife that are just too depressing to be funny. And yet... Does that mirror that readership?


Our present negatively sensationalist media certainly do not help in showing how people should be better treated or viewed, for both men and women. However, women do seem to get portrayed in a worse and more frivolous light. So much so that becomes the expectation?...


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Message 1683227 - Posted: 23 May 2015, 11:50:20 UTC - in response to Message 1683222.  

When God ceated man she was having a bad hair day.

Well all men know that women look down their noses at men as "things" to be tolerated in "their" world. Let's face it we get told that enough all the time around here.

Perhaps we should have an against all men thread?

All a question of culture and upbringing and in our modern times, what the media feed people.

For just one example as seen in the UK Daily Mirror tabloid newspaper, the Andy Cap cartoon strip in there makes for some very dismal jaundiced stereotypes against the presumed husband and wife that are just too depressing to be funny. And yet... Does that mirror that readership?


Our present negatively sensationalist media certainly do not help in showing how people should be better treated or viewed, for both men and women. However, women do seem to get portrayed in a worse and more frivolous light. So much so that becomes the expectation?...


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Message 1683230 - Posted: 23 May 2015, 12:00:19 UTC

Well all men know that women look down their noses at men as "things" to be tolerated in "their" world. Let's face it we get told that enough all the time around here.


All men really?

I have to say that of the women I have met both personally and professionally, I cannot think of any that "look down their noses at men as "things" to be tolerated in "their" world."

I must be mixing with the wrong sort of women then.
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Message 1683239 - Posted: 23 May 2015, 12:45:12 UTC - in response to Message 1682956.  

Seriously?

Funny how men do 'stupid' stuff everyday and their whole gender doesn't get judged on it.


Ess yes seriously , publicity at any cost is not what the feminist movement needs it's too serious a subject for that .

It's not like a bloody Hollywood movie where any publicity is good publicty
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Message 1683254 - Posted: 23 May 2015, 13:45:44 UTC
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For just one example as seen in the UK Daily Mirror tabloid newspaper, the Andy Cap cartoon strip in there makes for some very dismal jaundiced stereotypes against the presumed husband and wife that are just too depressing to be funny. And yet... Does that mirror that readership?

I would say that the Mirror does appeal to the Midlands working class yes.
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I must be mixing with the wrong sort of women then.

In current times, maybe.
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Message 1683278 - Posted: 23 May 2015, 14:57:44 UTC - in response to Message 1683254.  

For just one example as seen in the UK Daily Mirror tabloid newspaper, the Andy Cap cartoon strip in there makes for some very dismal jaundiced stereotypes against the presumed husband and wife that are just too depressing to be funny. And yet... Does that mirror that readership?

I would say that the Mirror does appeal to the Midlands working class yes.
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So the Mirror is not read in London or the South, or the South East, or the South West or further North?

For someone who has publicly stated that they stand up for Britain when it gets knocked...

...with an attitude such as that, no wonder women have a tough time.
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Message 1683282 - Posted: 23 May 2015, 15:04:26 UTC

My comment was of course sarcasm. :-)

I meant "wrong sort of women" by your standards.

Right sort of women by mine. (The women of course could well be the same)

I have treated women as equals since 1979, I wonder if that is why maybe I see things differently.

As someone here might say, comments were predictable and...
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Message 1683285 - Posted: 23 May 2015, 15:05:31 UTC - in response to Message 1683278.  

The Mirror. Website of the year.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/
I like British tabloid press:)
Do they still have Page 3?
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Message 1683289 - Posted: 23 May 2015, 15:15:56 UTC

I like British tabloid press:)
Do they still have Page 3?

I think that probably says all that we need to know ....

I have treated women as equals since 1979


Why only since then? I have treated them as equals since 1944.

For someone who has publicly stated that they stand up for Britain when it gets knocked...

Yes I do. Got a problem with that?
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Message 1683295 - Posted: 23 May 2015, 15:30:31 UTC - in response to Message 1682752.  

I hate fake boobs. I don't understand if this is really a thing men supposedly like as nearly everyone I talk to doesn't like them either. Women should stop doing this and most other cosmetic surgery immediately!

Right, so the guys you talk to don't like boob jobs so women should be stop having cosmetic surgery in order to stop offending your male sense of taste? I hope you realize how incredibly sexist that is.

Its been noted that cosmetic surgery can have a very positive effect on a person's sense of self worth.
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Message 1683305 - Posted: 23 May 2015, 15:40:10 UTC - in response to Message 1683295.  

I hate fake boobs. I don't understand if this is really a thing men supposedly like as nearly everyone I talk to doesn't like them either. Women should stop doing this and most other cosmetic surgery immediately!

Right, so the guys you talk to don't like boob jobs so women should be stop having cosmetic surgery in order to stop offending your male sense of taste? I hope you realize how incredibly sexist that is.

Its been noted that cosmetic surgery can have a very positive effect on a person's sense of self worth.

Yes. Self esteem is very important factor.
But if something goes wrong with the "cosmetic" surgery...
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Message 1683310 - Posted: 23 May 2015, 15:51:28 UTC
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I have treated women as equals since 1979


Why only since then? I have treated them as equals since 1944.


I think you will find several women who will disagree with that as you don't seem to be treating them as equals now.

I assume you do not remember this comment you made to me when discussing the word "manager"

Managers are male, Manageresses are female. Administrators or Supervisors can be either. It is just words at the end of the day. I encountered many androgynous females in my time working for an ex Civil Service outfit, that wanted to play that game. They got short thrift from me. They were females and they got treated as such, none of this modern pc rubbish for me.

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