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Message 1681795 - Posted: 20 May 2015, 16:07:40 UTC - in response to Message 1681790.  

Nothing wrong with the figures but however it doesn't tell you how many people are in that area does it .

considering there are not many people up that way the risk is high . You would have more chance of getting eaten by a crock than a shark . There are millions of us in the ocean each day but only a few people get mauled by sharks . So by comparison if there was as many people up in the top end you would see dozens of people get killed .

Anyway good your don't wish to come here you need to grow up a bit more a child that thinks he knows all .

And you seem to not be able to read . I DID SAY IF THEY DID NOT RELOCATE AS MANY AS THEY DO YOU WOULD SEE those numbers go way up .

50 per year are moved from Darwin harbour alone . If they did not move them a lot of people would be killed as it's right next to the dam city of Darwin . which has 127,000 people

Her quote and Steve Irwin have absolutely nothing to do with Feminism. I thought the problem people had with Germaine Greer was her feminism, yet all the criticisms seem to be character assassination rather than about her feminism.

So to get actually on topic, what of her feminist stances do people actually have problems with? Мишель has already raised the issue about her stance on transgendered people.

Anything else or is all about crocodiles?
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Message 1681808 - Posted: 20 May 2015, 17:18:29 UTC - in response to Message 1681795.  
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people here arn't to peed off about the feminist thing Ess as much as things she has done like the Erwin thing and i have already said this .
I know many women don't like some of her quotes and Wiggo has already said .

I did also say don't mention her name to Australians she is not liked and it was the Erwin thing that has pushed people to really hate her . What wiggo was talking about was a bit before i was here in Australia .
So i only know what i have read about .

She has used things like Erwin to promote herself and has nothing to do with her feminist ideas it was a publicity stunt and very bad tasting one at that . As Wiggo has said she makes out she is on someone's side when in fact she is just trying to get publicity for herself as that article shows . If she had waited say even just 6 months then it would not have been so offensive to many Australian and show us she don't care about anybody but herself as Wiggo has said she has been caught out by the very people she was spose to be helping and it's always been the people that she say's she was helping that have dobed her in .
I do know what Wiggo is talking about when he says she has been caught out so i'll try and find the thing he is talking about but not tonight .

She is a lier and a con artist and has no morals and nasty , rude , and i'll finish with this

It has been reported in the press that in early 2000, Greer claimed at a press gathering in London that she never set foot in Australia before receiving the permission of the "traditional owners of the land" at Sydney Airport. New South Wales Aboriginal Land Council spokesman Paul Molloy was reported as claiming that she had never asked permission, despite visiting Sydney several times in recent years, and in any case there was no single group of elders that could give such permission to enter Australia


as i said a lier just seeking publicity anyway she can
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Message 1681820 - Posted: 20 May 2015, 18:42:34 UTC - in response to Message 1681808.  

...Erwin...
It has been reported in the press that in early 2000, Greer claimed at a press gathering in London that she never set foot in Australia before receiving the permission of the "traditional owners of the land" at Sydney Airport. New South Wales Aboriginal Land Council spokesman Paul Molloy was reported as claiming that she had never asked permission, despite visiting Sydney several times in recent years, and in any case there was no single group of elders that could give such permission to enter Australia


as i said a lier just seeking publicity anyway she can

I don't really care about Steve Irwin, I am aware he was the crocodile wrestler of the Australian people's hearts, but the guy got killed doing some thing he knew was risky. Its sad, but not surprising.

However, it literally has absolutely nothing to do with Feminist bashing, although it has clearly become an excuse to do so.

As to your story about the Aboriginal claim, from what I can see is she made that statement and one Aboriginal who has no authority to give permission on behalf of the Aboriginal people says she didn't ask him. Its hardly scandal of the year and sounds more like the media is trying to stir up hatred against her.

Now ask yourself what is so frightening about Germaine Greer to the Status Quo that people go out of their way to do smear her at every opportunity? We know that Australia is a pretty sexist country, we saw your former Prime Minster, Julia Gillard, lay in the opposition about that very problem. Do you think your media is less sexist than your current Prime Minister?

And lets see Julia's speech again because it is so awesome: Julia Gillard's misogyny speech

Australia was so outraged at Tony Abbotts misogyny that you voted him in for Prime Minister. So tell me again how much you hate Germaine Greer.
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Message 1681833 - Posted: 20 May 2015, 19:18:20 UTC
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Also, what has the aboriginal thing got to do with Feminism? It seems about as unrelated as the Steve Irwin thing.
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Message 1681887 - Posted: 20 May 2015, 22:19:03 UTC - in response to Message 1681601.  

Now I understand why Germaine left Australia, your loss, our gain.

Hahahahahaha........

You can keep her, her bad attitude, bad behavior, bad morals and those huge chips on her shoulders.

Oh wait, that describes some around here too. :-O

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Yourself?

A typical childish response from someone who can't take the truth about their idol, or themselves. :-D

Cheers.
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Message 1681915 - Posted: 20 May 2015, 23:29:03 UTC - in response to Message 1681820.  

However, it literally has absolutely nothing to do with Feminist bashing, although it has clearly become an excuse to do so.


your words so please explain what Steve Erwin has to do with Feminist cause ?

Nothing , and why it was just a cheap shoot to get publicity. Also attacking only dead people is also a cheap shoot as they can't defend them self's and Greer has said she doesn't say anything about people unless there dead !

Wonder if that is so she can't be sued for slander ?

As to your story about the Aboriginal claim, from what I can see is she made that statement and one Aboriginal who has no authority to give permission on behalf of the Aboriginal people says she didn't ask him. Its hardly scandal of the year and sounds more like the media is trying to stir up hatred against her.


THERE IS NO SINGLE ABORIGINAL COUNCIL THAT CAN GIVE HER PERMISSION TO ENTER THE COUNTRY this is not a lie particularly SYDNEY i've live there for 20 freaking years and now live only 1 hrs drive from it so the man was not wrong . And i figured you would bite that one , guess whom she was helping but not helping and whom dobbed her in for it ?


We know that Australia is a pretty sexist country, we saw your former Prime Minster, Julia Gillard, lay in the opposition about that very problem. Do you think your media is less sexist than your current Prime Minister?


I never voted for him and have made my feeling about that nod head quiet obviously here in the forums . AS for us being sexist i spose we are as we never had a female P.M or governor or Premiere and we are sexist we wouldn't vote for them
But seeing as you need clarification TONY ABBOT is A$%^ Hole full stop.
And Julia Gillard is as i have already said a great role model for woman and a person i have much respect for that is why i voted for her and will defend her too .

Australia was so outraged at Tony Abbotts misogyny that you voted him in for Prime Minister.


I repeat i did NOT VOTE for that SOB
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Message 1681918 - Posted: 20 May 2015, 23:33:24 UTC - in response to Message 1681915.  


your words so please explain what Steve Erwin has to do with Feminist cause ?

Well nothing, which is why we are so baffled that it is being used to discredit her as a feminist. Don't you think it is a little weird that in a conversation about what a terrible feminist she is, no one has brought up anything about her actual feminism?

On a lighter note, here is an amusing, totally unrelated article, about stock photos.


7 Bizarre Gender Stereotypes You Always See In Stock Photos
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Message 1681922 - Posted: 20 May 2015, 23:38:03 UTC - in response to Message 1681833.  

Also, what has the aboriginal thing got to do with Feminism? It seems about as unrelated as the Steve Irwin thing.


Good to see you really are just a small boy whom thinks he knows all .

Umm i seem to have read how she was a champion of Aboriginal rights and is a adopted sister of one tribe and how she went around the top end of ozz trying to help the Aboriginals and bring them into her feminist fold .

Most be so good to be so naive that you believe everything she says .

You know so much you figure it out mate .

Wonder whom dodded her in and weather that is how she has been caught out with her lie's , saying she's helping them when she wasn't oh well you know all so figure it out .
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Message 1681924 - Posted: 20 May 2015, 23:45:22 UTC - in response to Message 1681918.  

Well nothing, which is why we are so baffled that it is being used to discredit her as a feminist. Don't you think it is a little weird that in a conversation about what a terrible feminist she is, no one has brought up anything about her actual feminism?


Ess i have not said she is a terrible feminist and that's why most here hate her i have siad some don't because of her views . But i'll keep telling you i don't like her as she is a lier and publicity grabber and it's the way and things she does to get her notoriety that i hate her for and so do most others .
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Message 1681936 - Posted: 21 May 2015, 0:11:18 UTC - in response to Message 1681924.  

Well nothing, which is why we are so baffled that it is being used to discredit her as a feminist. Don't you think it is a little weird that in a conversation about what a terrible feminist she is, no one has brought up anything about her actual feminism?


Ess i have not said she is a terrible feminist and that's why most here hate her i have siad some don't because of her views . But i'll keep telling you i don't like her as she is a lier and publicity grabber and it's the way and things she does to get her notoriety that i hate her for and so do most others .

That's nice, Glenn, but as this conversation was actually supposed to be about her feminist views, then you can see how you've gone off track a little.
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Message 1681937 - Posted: 21 May 2015, 0:14:01 UTC - in response to Message 1681918.  
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... On a lighter note, here is an amusing, totally unrelated article, about stock photos.


7 Bizarre Gender Stereotypes You Always See In Stock Photos

Unfortunately, it is such media stereotypes the teach the untaught masses 'how to behave'... "As shown on TV" and "as seen in the news paper": For too many that just must be religiously followed!... Unfortunately by far too many?...


Can we really raise the importance and effectiveness of education to push the Marketing shills out of their peddling abuse in the name of Marketing?


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Message 1681940 - Posted: 21 May 2015, 0:17:12 UTC - in response to Message 1681936.  

That's nice, Glenn, but as this conversation was actually supposed to be about her feminist views, then you can see how you've gone off track a little.


ok sorry but she does get me quiet upset so i won't say anymore about her there are better woman i think you can use to further the feminist cause thou .
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Message 1682073 - Posted: 21 May 2015, 10:55:02 UTC - in response to Message 1681915.  

your words so please explain what Steve Erwin has to do with Feminist cause ?

Who is Steve Erwin?
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Message 1682086 - Posted: 21 May 2015, 11:25:19 UTC - in response to Message 1682073.  

Who is Steve Erwin?

There is the "Eco-warrior" ship named in his honour:

Sea Shepherd Renames Its Whale Defending Ship the Steve Irwin


And there is good summary on Wikipedia for the public view:

The Crocodile Hunter and related work


There are some very good positive impressive people to counterpoint some of the examples mentioned in this subject thread...


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Message 1682094 - Posted: 21 May 2015, 12:13:31 UTC - in response to Message 1682086.  

Who is Steve Erwin?

There is the "Eco-warrior" ship named in his honour:

Sea Shepherd Renames Its Whale Defending Ship the Steve Irwin

And there is good summary on Wikipedia for the public view:

The Crocodile Hunter and related work

There are some very good positive impressive people to counterpoint some of the examples mentioned in this subject thread...

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Oh, Steve Irwin, i remember him, i was wondering who Steve Erwin was...
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Message 1682213 - Posted: 21 May 2015, 18:34:38 UTC - in response to Message 1682199.  

..but do tell us what you define as rampant Women Liberation people and what they have done that you take issue. I am curious. Do you know any other names apart from Germaine Greer?

Is it 1st wave or 2nd wave feminism you take issue with? Which feminist leaders are bothering you in particular? What is the actual message (I mean what they have actually said and done, not what you think they've done, remember, the whole bra burning thing never happened) that you don't agree with?

Let's have an actual discussion here rather than the general "I don't like them" comments you keep making.

First off, I have been away for three days on matters rather more important than this issue here.

Can we also just remember that this is not a court of law, None of us are in the dock, and you are not the prosecuting counsel. I have been around for far too long to fall for your ploy of inviting me to stick my head in a lions mouth, so you can have the pleasure of biting it off. I don't have to justify myself to you, fact.

I just wanted to know if you knew what you were talking about. I'll consider my question answered.
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Message 1682532 - Posted: 22 May 2015, 11:08:45 UTC - in response to Message 1682468.  

Here is Another very strong woman and with lots of humours:)
She doesn't burn bras.
Gudrun Schyman from the Feminist Initiative burn 10,000 euros in Almedalen in 2010.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gudrun_Schyman#Founder_of_the_Feminist_Initiative
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Message 1682534 - Posted: 22 May 2015, 11:20:28 UTC - in response to Message 1682094.  

sorry simon didn't relize it's IRWIN and not Erwin . I gotta get new speek's it's been 4 years since i had me eyes tested , then again it could be just my brain does not always see the words correctly , but that is what Dyslexia does so sorry .
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Message 1682540 - Posted: 22 May 2015, 11:26:44 UTC - in response to Message 1682532.  

Janne she's just mad Burning 10 grand !!!!!!!Wonder if it was her money !

That's a lot of Bra's she could have bought for that much cash
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Message 1682549 - Posted: 22 May 2015, 12:01:27 UTC - in response to Message 1682544.  
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She burned 100,000 Swedish Krona.
That equals €10,000, $11,000 US dollars, £7150.
That's a lot of Bra's she could have bought for that much cash

Probably she was still into corsets and girdles with whale bone reinforcement.

Gudrun doesnt know about those things.
Here is her first TV performance and giving birth.
http://www.filmarkivet.se/sv/Film/?movieid=605
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